# T1!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/t1/52266>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 29, 2001, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/t1/52266 "2001-01-29T15:01:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2001, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/t1/52266/1 "2001-01-29T15:01:50Z")

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Ten minutes in and I’m spoiled already. No more eye on the phone to make sure we still had a couple lines open.\* No more 22k connections—and they never were faster. No more twenty-minutes-per-meg downloads. (Hey, that’s important when downloading CAD files cuz they be BIG!) I can finally start using some of the online project coordination stuff like Buzzsaw.

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  - Ya know, looking at the phone I see that only ONE line is in use. Those _ssh_l\*s (meaning my co-workers)! I was apparently the only person who cared enough about keeping some lines open so our customers could call as to limit my time online AND time my own outgoing calls. The jerks.

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**Author:** ![Monster104](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Monster104](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monster104)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2001, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/t1/52266/2 "2001-01-29T15:16:47Z")

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I hate you.

::Walks away muttering "Lousy 28.8 connection…::

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**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2001, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/t1/52266/3 "2001-01-29T15:19:29Z")

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Congrats **dropzone**! I’m sure you and your T1’ll be very happy together. _sniff sniff_

(Sorry, posting with no nearly enough sleep in me, excuse the incoherence)

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**Author:** ![Simetra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Simetra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simetra)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2001, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/t1/52266/4 "2001-01-29T15:25:44Z")

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Lucky bastard. Of course, I’ve got a pretty nice connection myself. But there’s nothing like a T1. Save maybe having fiber running directly into your house like they do for those Atlanta people.

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**Author:** ![racerx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5e9695/32.png) [@racerx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racerx)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2001, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/t1/52266/5 "2001-01-29T15:36:48Z")

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Hey **dropzone** I’m on a T1 connection too! Nice, ain’t it? 'Sept it completely ruins you for anything slower.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2001, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/t1/52266/6 "2001-01-29T16:21:04Z")

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Now I can blame any slowness here on the SDMB’s server! AND you people with slow connections. 😉

Downloaded a 12.8mb file in 1:15. The estimated time to completion only went down AND in real time! No more five-minute seconds!

Is T1 faster or slower than DSL?

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**Author:** ![Triskadecamus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@Triskadecamus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Triskadecamus)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2001, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/t1/52266/7 "2001-01-29T16:42:34Z")

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I have a T1 now too. At home! It rocks.

I was generally at 38k with my dial up. Now, theoretically, I share this T1 with a hundred other people. Of course, given the demographics of the neighborhood, and the hours I keep, the real facts are that I have it pretty much to myself, most of the time.

However, it is seriously cutting down my caffeine levels. I barely have time to get a cup of coffee, much less brew a pot like I used to during downloads. Somehow I will get by.

:greatbigassedsmily!:

Tris

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2001, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/t1/52266/8 "2001-01-29T17:26:02Z")

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Well, I might be jealos, if it wasn’t for the fact that I have a T3 connection! Ha! I laugh at your puny T1 line! Ha!

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**Author:** ![Mr.Cynical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@Mr.Cynical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Cynical)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2001, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/t1/52266/9 "2001-01-29T18:06:55Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by dropzone \*  
> \*\*Is T1 faster or slower than DSL? \*\*

The answer is: It depends.

There’s a number of factors involved there. The maximum transmission speed on a T-1 line is 1.544 Megabits per second (symmetrical), depending on whom you speak to. Some will say it’s higher, some lower, but that’s a good solid starting point.

Please see [here](http://whatis.techtarget.com/WhatIs_Definition_Page/0,4152,213096,00.html) for more information.

DSL. DSL is a low cost alternative to a T-1. Maximum upload speed is 1.568 Megabits per second, on the SDSL platform. On RADSL, you can achieve download speeds around 7 megabits per second, but the upload is limited to a maximum of 1 megabit per second. DSL is sensitive to distance, whereas the T-carrier system isn’t. The farther away you are from the equipment with DSL, the slower you get. Check out Project Pronto for more information, sorry I don’t have a link.

So, to summarize, a DSL can be faster than a T-1. It can also be slower. It all depends.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2001, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/t1/52266/10 "2001-01-29T18:37:56Z")

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Hmmmmm! Web radio in Hi Fidelity! Not supposed to do this when I might be slowing everybody else down, but they’re at lunch.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Zero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Saint\_Zero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Zero)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2001, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/t1/52266/11 "2001-01-29T19:21:46Z")

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_sniff_

My 56k modem will be replaced by DSL soon. 😃

DSL is our friend.

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**Author:** ![HomeSlice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/9d8465/32.png) [@HomeSlice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HomeSlice)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2001, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/t1/52266/12 "2001-01-29T20:15:42Z")

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T3 here and i have been known to DL at almost a MEG a second. Pretty sweet, eh?

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**Author:** ![absoul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc8723/32.png) [@absoul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/absoul)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2001, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/t1/52266/13 "2001-01-30T01:04:32Z")

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We once had T1 access, then they upgraded us to OC3… damn them!  
Next I hear they are thinking about OC48… sheesh.

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**Author:** ![Monster104](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Monster104](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monster104)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2001, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/t1/52266/14 "2001-01-30T01:40:41Z")

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Yeah, absoul - Those bastards.

My phone company says (Yeah, they’re always saying) that a new central office will be finished building by August less than a mile from my house.

The cable company says cable will be available in June.

They’ve been saying stuff like that for a year now.

Bastards.

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**Author:** ![Rectangle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c4cdca/32.png) [@Rectangle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rectangle)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2001, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/t1/52266/15 "2001-01-30T09:45:29Z")

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I finally broke down and got RoadRunner  
for the wife and I!!! Downloaded a file  
in 2 minutes, that was gonna take 17 mins  
on our 33.6 dialup!!

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**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2001, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/t1/52266/16 "2001-01-30T10:00:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by absoul \*  
> \*\*We once had T1 access, then they upgraded us to OC3… damn them!  
> Next I hear they are thinking about OC48… sheesh. \*\*

Is all the bandwidth on that OC-3 available for internet access. If so you must be some web surfing fools.

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**Author:** ![bernse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@bernse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bernse)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2001, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/t1/52266/17 "2001-01-30T16:00:17Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Rectangle \*  
> \*\*I finally broke down and got RoadRunner  
> for the wife and I!!! Downloaded a file  
> in 2 minutes, that was gonna take 17 mins  
> on our 33.6 dialup!! \*\*

Oh I know, there is no going back, is there? I remember when I first got my DSL and I downloaded the Kingpin demo…it was 108MB or something. It took me something like 12-15 mins or something like that…no going back baby.

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**Author:** ![absoul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc8723/32.png) [@absoul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/absoul)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2001, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/t1/52266/18 "2001-01-31T10:35:16Z")

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> _Originally posted by Fugazi_  
> Is all the bandwidth on that OC-3 available for internet access. If so you must be some web surfing fools.

Why yes it is and we are **Fugazi**!  
The pornographic sites that I usually frequent actually appear on my screen _before_ I can actaully think of them. Even right now my mind (food) is posting this message (sex) without even having (beer) my conscious permission. (sex with beer)
