# "Tackling the real issues"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tackling-the-real-issues/174471>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 11, 2003, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tackling-the-real-issues/174471 "2003-05-11T07:15:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2003, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tackling-the-real-issues/174471/1 "2003-05-11T07:15:02Z")

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I’d rather drink lukewarm rat urine than hear this phrase one more time. It bothers me. I guess this is not really worthy of a pit thread, but I had to make it known that I hate that phrase. It’s stupid, cliched and not even appropriate since local news stations and papers don’t “tackle real issues.” I also hate when people take things to “the next level.” That is all.

::waits for someone to use both phrases in a sentence::

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**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2003, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tackling-the-real-issues/174471/2 "2003-05-11T09:48:40Z")

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You know, **MeanOldLady** , if you really want to quit putzing around, get out of denial and achieve some closure, you need to quit being distracted by the surface shit and tackle the real issues so you can take your healing to the next level. 😉

CJ  
I could use some exercise.

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**Author:** ![Neidhart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Neidhart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neidhart)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2003, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tackling-the-real-issues/174471/3 "2003-05-11T12:49:48Z")

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And start thinking outside the box, will ya? Who moved my cheese?

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**Author:** ![Davebear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@Davebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Davebear)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2003, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tackling-the-real-issues/174471/4 "2003-05-11T14:08:28Z")

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Well, I, for one, salute you for running this up the flagpole, to see who salutes. It’s long overdue that someone should probe beneath the surface, and I welcome the opportunity to interface with you on these issues. Because, our people are our assets, and we need to empower them to leverage their knowledge, thereby enabling them to work smarter, not harder. And, when we’ve completed our program of right-sizing, utilizing a multiplex approach, including near-shore outsourcing, we will be positioned for success. In the meantime, it is what it is, and we need all hands on deck to weather the current economic conditions.

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I need to take this off-line. Where’s that barf bag?

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**Author:** ![Honeydew\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e19b73/32.png) [@Honeydew\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honeydew_1)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2003, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tackling-the-real-issues/174471/5 "2003-05-11T16:38:33Z")

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Anyone see the movie Office Space for all these lovely sayings and more in action? Rent it … believe me.

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**Author:** ![Tir\_Tinuviel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@Tir\_Tinuviel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tir_Tinuviel)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2003, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tackling-the-real-issues/174471/6 "2003-05-11T17:05:41Z")

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Anyone who tries to touch my base gets a mouthful of fist… ok.  
😉  
Anyone played ‘buzz-word’ bingo in a meeting? That’s fun that is, makes it go so quick! We used to run a book when I worked at a bank. heh.

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**Author:** ![LolaCocaCola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7cd45c/32.png) [@LolaCocaCola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaCocaCola)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2003, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tackling-the-real-issues/174471/7 "2003-05-11T17:12:59Z")

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Mmmmmmm luke warm rat urine…

_does Hannibal chops-licking thing with mouth_

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**Author:** ![FranticMad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c68b51/32.png) [@FranticMad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FranticMad)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2003, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tackling-the-real-issues/174471/8 "2003-05-11T18:04:07Z")

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MOL, your share so impacted me. I’m sure you incentivized others here for paradigm buy-in.

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**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2003, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tackling-the-real-issues/174471/9 "2003-05-11T18:22:39Z")

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You should be more “pro-active”.🙂

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2003, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tackling-the-real-issues/174471/10 "2003-05-11T18:56:43Z")

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Har har har. 😃 Y’know, even though all of those cheesy buzz words are a bunch of crap, none of them really bother me. Pro-active has the potential to get on my nerves, but right now is just too stupid to annoy me. Makes me laugh, actually. Maybe if I heard it more, it’d start to bug me. DO NOT start using it over and over in this thread. I mean if I heard it more from people who weren’t doing it on purpose.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2003, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tackling-the-real-issues/174471/11 "2003-05-11T21:42:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tir Tinuviel \*  
> \*\*Anyone played ‘buzz-word’ bingo in a meeting? That’s fun that is, makes it go so quick! We used to run a book when I worked at a bank. heh. \*\*

I work for a bank, and I play this game all the time. We call it Bullshit Bingo, though. 😃

You worked at a bank? Did they let you guard the vault? 😉

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2003, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tackling-the-real-issues/174471/12 "2003-05-12T02:32:30Z")

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What’s my incentivization to terminate use of this highly useful phrase. You have provided me with no stimulus to engage this issue. What’s your value proposition to me to disengage use of this handy term? Are you frighteningly intelligent? Are you hot? Are you self actualized? Are you mean? Are you old? Are you even a lady? Are there photos?

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2003, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tackling-the-real-issues/174471/13 "2003-05-12T03:49:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by astro \*  
> **What’s my incentivization to terminate use of this highly useful phrase.**

I don’t like it.

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> You have provided me with no stimulus to engage this issue.

My not liking it isn’t enough?

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> What’s your value proposition to me to disengage use of this handy term?

Give the next person you hear using it five across the eyes.

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> Are you frighteningly intelligent?

No, but I can pretend.

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> Are you hot?

Yes, it _is_ quite warm today. 😉

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> Are you self actualized?

Sure.

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> Are you mean?

I have my moments.

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> Are you old?

Nope.

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> Are you even a lady?

Last time I checked, I was. I’m assuming I still am now.

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> Are there photos?

There sure are. 😃

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**Author:** ![Pixiesnix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Pixiesnix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pixiesnix)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2003, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tackling-the-real-issues/174471/14 "2003-05-12T03:52:41Z")

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After reading this thread, I feel extremely lucky that I don’t work in an office. Do people really say these things any more now that they’re cliches?

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**Author:** ![FranticMad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c68b51/32.png) [@FranticMad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FranticMad)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2003, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tackling-the-real-issues/174471/15 "2003-05-12T04:17:02Z")

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Do people really say these things?  
Yes.  
Recently I’ve heard:  
_“value”_ as in “value added” as in “our product does something useful, but I don’t know what”;  
_“leverage”_ as in “I am clueless about what you actually do, so saying ‘leverage’ lets you imagine levers”(??);  
_“we provide solutions…”_ as in “I am clueless about what **we** actually do”;  
_“buy-in”_ as in “conform” so that I don’t have to listen to you.  
And so on. Sad but true.

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**Author:** ![TVGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/82dd89/32.png) [@TVGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2003, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tackling-the-real-issues/174471/16 "2003-05-12T04:29:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by KCSuze \*  
> \*\*After reading this thread, I feel extremely lucky that I don’t work in an office. Do people really say these things any more now that they’re cliches? \*\*

Oh Lord, yes. I hear from my boss at least once a month some of these:

“It’s all hands on deck, we can’t afford vacations right now”  
“We’re going to need to solve this going forward” (actually, the “going forward” thing pretty much escapes her lips hourly)  
“We’re having a teambuilding meeting tomorrow”  
“Certain commitments were made to the stockholders, now it’s up to us to steer the ship”

Who moved my cheese, indeed.

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**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2003, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tackling-the-real-issues/174471/17 "2003-05-12T05:21:45Z")

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This is the way the idiots sound smart. They invent jargon so they don’t have to learn real lingo. Think about it. They don’t want to admit that they do nothing, so they “provide solutions.”

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**Author:** ![lite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b5ac83/32.png) [@lite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lite)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2003, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tackling-the-real-issues/174471/18 "2003-05-12T05:43:54Z")

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Nah, not that they’re stupid, they just want to sound like they have an answer or two, when in fact…

My Inner Child tells me to be pro-actively pragmatic on these important issues of the American People today. However, my inner-caveman says to be be anti-activly pragmatic. Oh wait, I just took my inner-child out back and beat the shit out of him, ignore his opinion.

My feminine side was just slapped silly by my \*\*\*\*.

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**Author:** ![kp\_72110](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e68b1a/32.png) [@kp\_72110](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kp_72110)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2003, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tackling-the-real-issues/174471/19 "2003-05-12T09:48:52Z")

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Next you’ll be “kicking it up a notch”.  
bam!

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**Author:** ![Tir\_Tinuviel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@Tir\_Tinuviel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tir_Tinuviel)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2003, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tackling-the-real-issues/174471/20 "2003-05-12T13:12:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Coldfire \*  
> \*\*You worked at a bank? Did they let you guard the vault? 😉 \*\*

Nah, they wouldn’t let me near any real money cos of the Fire hazzard…

However, I did come in very useful making the perforations in cheque books… 😉
