# "taco n\*\*\*\*\*s" - no warning issued, mods?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taco-n-s-no-warning-issued-mods/820079>\
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**Created:** [August 22, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taco-n-s-no-warning-issued-mods/820079 "2018-08-22T21:44:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taco-n-s-no-warning-issued-mods/820079/1 "2018-08-22T21:44:48Z")

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[This post](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21161487#post21161487) used the phrase “taco niggers”. That seems like about as clear-cut a violation of the rule against hate speech as I have ever read here. I reported it, asking for a response, and have not heard anything back. Mods, a penny for your thoughts?

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taco-n-s-no-warning-issued-mods/820079/2 "2018-08-22T21:46:21Z")

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You were the target of the insult, not the migrants.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taco-n-s-no-warning-issued-mods/820079/3 "2018-08-22T21:53:16Z")

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That post is loaded with epithets. taco n\_\_\_ is consistent with the rest of the post.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taco-n-s-no-warning-issued-mods/820079/4 "2018-08-22T21:55:01Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> [This post](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21161487#post21161487) used the phrase “taco niggers”. That seems like about as clear-cut a violation of the rule against hate speech as I have ever read here. I reported it, asking for a response, and have not heard anything back. Mods, a penny for your thoughts?

Oh c’mon HD, this is a stretch even for _you_.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taco-n-s-no-warning-issued-mods/820079/5 "2018-08-22T22:02:44Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> [This post](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21161487#post21161487) used the phrase “taco niggers”.

Post reported for hate speech.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taco-n-s-no-warning-issued-mods/820079/6 "2018-08-22T22:06:25Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> [This post](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21161487#post21161487) used the phrase “taco niggers”. That seems like about as clear-cut a violation of the rule against hate speech as I have ever read here. I reported it, asking for a response, and have not heard anything back. **Mods, a penny for your thoughts?**

Another way the Board could raise funds. 😃

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taco-n-s-no-warning-issued-mods/820079/7 "2018-08-22T22:10:43Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Another way the Board could raise funds. 😃

The Straight Dope [Swear Jar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swear_jar)?

🆒

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taco-n-s-no-warning-issued-mods/820079/8 "2018-08-22T22:11:46Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> You were the target of the insult, not the migrants.

Is that an exception to the rule? Can we use hate speech as long as we’re insulting another poster? The “Revised Forum Rules for the BBQ Pit” say:

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> **No hate speech**
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> If you say hateful and/or racist things, you may get warned or banned. Some slurs are likely to be viewed as hate speech when used as insults, some aren’t. No, we aren’t going to give you a list. Our goal is not to restrict any and all speech which could be viewed by someone as offensive, but simply keep a modicum of decency, even here.

> [@Bullitt](#):
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> That post is loaded with epithets. taco n\_\_\_ is consistent with the rest of the post.

What does that have to do with anything? If an entire post is laced with hate speech is it then exempt from moderation?

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taco-n-s-no-warning-issued-mods/820079/9 "2018-08-22T22:18:26Z")

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Hey Ditka, I’ll own up to it and take the warning without a fight (if the mods even consider it worthy) AND apologize to you if you own up to, and explain/discuss your OKC bomber “wasn’t entirely unreasonable” line in the pit with us.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taco-n-s-no-warning-issued-mods/820079/10 "2018-08-22T22:22:25Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> [This post](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21161487#post21161487) used the phrase “taco niggers”. That seems like about as clear-cut a violation of the rule against hate speech as I have ever read here. I reported it, asking for a response, and have not heard anything back. Mods, a penny for your thoughts?

Context is everything. It wasn’t hurled as an epithet. The word was used in a sentence describing the attitudes of people like you.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taco-n-s-no-warning-issued-mods/820079/11 "2018-08-22T22:28:02Z")

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**Ditka** - since you’re obviously reading the threads (and there are 2 open with your name on them), it would be swell if you would join in.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taco-n-s-no-warning-issued-mods/820079/12 "2018-08-22T22:30:49Z")

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> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> Hey Ditka, I’ll own up to it and take the warning without a fight (if the mods even consider it worthy) AND apologize to you if you own up to, and explain/discuss your OKC bomber “wasn’t entirely unreasonable” line in the pit with us.

I strive to not post in the Pit. I can’t imagine anything productive coming out of such a thread, so I’ll have to decline.

I have, at times, toyed with the idea of posting in the Pit, for example as an April Fool’s joke or something. Maybe we should do it as some sort of pay-per-view special or something to raise money for the SDMB: “Limited time only, Ditka in the Pit” “He promises to read every post in the thread” “Only $9.99 to participate”. I bet that would get some takers.

As an aside, if one day you’d like to have a _civil_ discussion on the OKC topic, feel free to start one in another forum, or PM me.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taco-n-s-no-warning-issued-mods/820079/13 "2018-08-22T22:34:41Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> **Ditka** - since you’re obviously reading the threads (and there are 2 open with your name on them), it would be swell if you would join in.

I don’t regularly read the Pit threads either. This one came to my attention because **snfaulkner** linked to it [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21161489#post21161489) in a reply to me.

This is probably getting off-topic for this thread, but I do wonder: how do you think the experience would be improved by my participation there?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taco-n-s-no-warning-issued-mods/820079/14 "2018-08-22T22:36:43Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> I don’t regularly read the Pit threads either. This one came to my attention because **snfaulkner** linked to it [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21161489#post21161489) in a reply to me.
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> This is probably getting off-topic for this thread, but I do wonder: how do you think the experience would be improved by my participation there? I’ve long-considered it a bit like a safe space for those who lose arguments to me to retreat to and nurse their wounds. I haven’t wanted to intrude.

Wait, you think you’re winning arguments? Are you Charlie Sheen?

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taco-n-s-no-warning-issued-mods/820079/15 "2018-08-22T22:38:23Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Wait, you think you’re winning arguments? Are you Charlie Sheen?

Perhaps this discussion would be best conducted in another thread in another forum.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taco-n-s-no-warning-issued-mods/820079/16 "2018-08-22T22:38:54Z")

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I always knew you read that thread, but I’m surprised you admit it so readily. 😉

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taco-n-s-no-warning-issued-mods/820079/17 "2018-08-22T22:41:36Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I always knew you read that thread, but I’m surprised you admit it so readily. 😉

Perhaps you should re-read post #13.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taco-n-s-no-warning-issued-mods/820079/18 "2018-08-22T22:44:31Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Perhaps you should re-read post #13.

LOL. Of course. I definitely believe you. 😉

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taco-n-s-no-warning-issued-mods/820079/19 "2018-08-22T22:48:23Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> LOL. Of course. I definitely believe you. 😉

I don’t care if you do / don’t _believe_ me, but where do you imagine I “admit[ted] it so readily”?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taco-n-s-no-warning-issued-mods/820079/20 "2018-08-22T22:54:02Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> I don’t care if you do / don’t _believe_ me, but where do you imagine I “admit[ted] it so readily”?

Of course, you don’t care, but you’re oh so curious…

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