# Take a guess at who Trump will pardon today

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 19, 2021, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881 "2021-01-19T13:45:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/42 "2021-01-20T05:22:48Z")

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Now hearing Elliott Broidy will get pardoned as well.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/43 "2021-01-20T05:42:23Z")

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I just hope he doesn’t pardon any of the terrorists from 1/6. Not pardoning them will help break his cult hold over those people.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/44 "2021-01-20T05:54:54Z")

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Bannon was sharing his ill-gotten boodle with trump from the start, hence the silencing pardon. That’s my theory.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/45 "2021-01-20T05:54:55Z")

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Devin Nunes is on the list being read aloud on television.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/46 "2021-01-20T06:00:32Z")

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[Ex-Detroit mayor Kwame Kilpatrick gets the pardon,](https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2021/01/20/kwame-kilpatrick-pardoned-donald-trump-detroit-mayor/4217253001/) making absolutely no one happy except perhaps Kwame.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/47 "2021-01-20T07:16:10Z")

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Li’l Wayne? 🤣 He pardoned Li’l Wayne! Why???

(Though I’ve often thought that my bat mitzvah would have been a whole lot more fun if Li’l Wayne had been there in a panda mask)

ETA: as per the NYTimes, it was clemency, not a pardon, but still…why?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/48 "2021-01-20T11:56:46Z")

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> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> Li’l Wayne? 🤣 He pardoned Li’l Wayne! Why???

Someone else’s anecdote:

Around 15 years ago, a cousin of mine is working the night shift at a [Pilot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilot_Flying_J) truck stop on the interstate. Late one night she is the only person in the store when two large black men walk in and start looking all around, not at items on the shelf but the layout of the room itself, and go glance in the men’s room–they were “casing the joint.” she begins to be concerned about what is going to happen next. What happens next is a smaller and younger guy is brought in and heads for the restroom. One of the first guys walks to my cousin walks to my cousin and asks her if she knows who that is. She’s like “Um, no.” he goes “Thats Lil Wayne!” and she is like “Okaaaaay…” in a moment much like [this](https://youtube.com/watch?v=jelyGb0luj8). She had never heard of him, and neither had I when she told me afterwards. But I always think of that when I hear his name. (I’ve still never heard his music.)

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/49 "2021-01-20T13:29:16Z")

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So, he has pardoned two people who have scammed Trump supporters? That’s what Bannon is accused of, right?

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/50 "2021-01-20T13:45:08Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> So, he has pardoned two people who have scammed Trump supporters? That’s what Bannon is accused of, right?

[![](https://i.redd.it/0ds8iuefwec61.jpg) ](https://i.redd.it/0ds8iuefwec61.jpg)

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/51 "2021-01-20T13:49:26Z")

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He has nothing but disdain for his supporters. It would be pretty funny, really, if many of his supporters weren’t so dangerous.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/52 "2021-01-20T13:53:03Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> He has nothing but disdain for his supporters.

Stopped clocks, blind squirrels, Donald J. Trump…

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/53 "2021-01-20T14:17:56Z")

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> **[Trump pardons 73, commutes sentence for 70 others: Full list](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/1/20/trump-pardons-73-commutes-sentence-for-70-others-full-list)**
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> Here’s the full list of pardons granted in a last-minute clemency wave by outgoing President Donald Trump.

[https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-press-secretary-regarding-executive-grants-clemency-012021/](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-press-secretary-regarding-executive-grants-clemency-012021/)

Some of those actually seem pretty reasonable. In fact, you can tell the ones where there was some solid reasoning vs. Trump wanted this one.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/54 "2021-01-20T14:20:30Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> FUCK.

I have no problem with Steve Bannon being pardoned. I’m all for encouraging corrupt right wing grifters stealing money from deplorable idiots, rather than using the funds for the intended purpose - to get monsters elected to government.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/55 "2021-01-20T14:25:05Z")

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I certainly support the reduction of prison time for non-violent drug offenders. Was a long 4-yr wait for the fucker to do something I don’t find offensive.

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**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/56 "2021-01-20T14:31:35Z")

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Well, there had to be a webpage I would refresh every 30 seconds throughout the day today, and you have found it for me. That needs to be gone at 12:00pm Eastern on the dot. I guess we can give them a grace period, say 12:01.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/57 "2021-01-20T15:31:10Z")

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Looks like Charles Kushner (Jared’s total slimeball of a father) and Paul “Obstruction of Justice and Russian Asset” Manafort have been pardoned. Neither of their convictions was in any way a miscarriage of justice.

I really hate the pardon power, and I have since I was really first aware of it in action (the Seth Rich pardon). The president isn’t the king and shouldn’t have king-like powers.

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/58 "2021-01-20T15:38:36Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> I really hate the pardon power, and I have since I was really first aware of it in action (the Seth Rich pardon). The president isn’t the king and shouldn’t have king-like powers.

Obama’s pardon of a ton of non-violent drug offenders was a mercy. There needs to be SOME sort of check on the criminal justice system. I’m generally fine with pardon powers because they only undo what was done, they are a negative check. I’d be okay with requiring them to only be used after a conviction, though: that would make it a check on the judiciary, not a personal clemency, like a king.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/59 "2021-01-20T15:38:48Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> (the Seth Rich pardon).

Marc Rich was pardoned by President Clinton.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/60 "2021-01-20T15:39:48Z")

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Ha! Right. Seth Rich was the one who wasn’t murdered by Hillary Clinton. Sorry, got those confused.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/61 "2021-01-20T15:41:32Z")

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Obama could have, should have, worked with the legislative branch to provide that relief. For all the good he did, a corrupt president can do so much bad.

Anyway, this is all for another thread. I’m not at all shocked that Trump pardoned two people who scammed his supporters, plus a couple of other total low-lifes.

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