# Take a guess at who Trump will pardon today

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 19, 2021, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881 "2021-01-19T13:45:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/62 "2021-01-20T18:22:05Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> I just hope he doesn’t pardon any of the terrorists from 1/6. Not pardoning them will help break his cult hold over those people.

Oh the relief! He didn’t.

> [@RitterSport](#):
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> I really hate the pardon power, and I have since I was really first aware of it in action

My first exposure to the president’s power to pardon was when Ford pardoned Nixon. Which probably was good for the country. The next time I noticed it was when Carter pardoned the draft dodgers, which I supported and think was really helpful in healing the nation, if an imperfect act.

So I generally like the pardon. And mixed in with the political crap, every president, even Trump, has pardoned some people who deserved to be pardoned.

I’d like to see the power limited temporally, so the president couldn’t issue pardons after the last presidential election before he leaves office, perhaps. Something to reduce the lame-duck aspect of it. But I don’t want it to go away altogether.

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/63 "2021-01-21T06:40:50Z")

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So the question on everyone’s lips is … how much did Trump make in total from PardonPalooza, and who did he soak the hardest?

My money (heh) is on [Anthony Levandowski](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/20/anthony-levandowski-google-uber-pardon-donald-trump) and/or his backers. I’m sure he’s worth at least $2mil to Uber.

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/64 "2021-01-21T12:25:45Z")

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He soaked his supporters who took the capitol, flat out betrayed them and threw them under the bus after they followed Trump’s command. And right after Trump said to them ‘we love you’

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/65 "2021-01-21T14:23:41Z")

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Is he still alive? Sorry, i tried to copy and paste, I meant Mumia.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/66 "2021-01-21T14:28:50Z")

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yes, he is.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/67 "2021-01-21T14:37:31Z")

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_reads thread title_

_raises hand_ Ooh! Ooh! Pick me!

Trump’s not gonna pardon _anybody_ today, 'cause he ain’t President any more! _ **YESSS!!!** _

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/68 "2021-01-21T14:39:20Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> He soaked his supporters who took the capitol, flat out betrayed them and threw them under the bus after they followed Trump’s command. And right after Trump said to them ‘we love you’

He didn’t even ask Michael Cohen to leave them some cash on the nightstand afterwards.

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**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/69 "2021-01-21T14:40:32Z")

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Seriously. I think it’s going to take a little while for my jaw to un-clench after the past 4 years, though.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/70 "2021-01-21T15:15:52Z")

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It was on the news last night here in DFW-- apparently they were hanging out outside the Federal pen medical facility in Fort Worth for a while waiting on a pardon yesterday.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/71 "2021-01-21T15:27:45Z")

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> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> Li’l Wayne? 🤣 He pardoned Li’l Wayne! Why???

Pandering to the NRA crowd. Lil Wayne and Kodak Black were both convicted of illegal possession of firearms.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/72 "2021-01-21T15:30:57Z")

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I have to admit I was wrong. I kept saying Trump would cave in and pardon himself at the last minute. But he didn’t.

Now we can all sit back and see if that was the final mistake of his presidency.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/73 "2021-01-21T19:09:17Z")

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One of my brothers is a lawyer who represented victims of one of the scam artists that Trump just commuted and he has followed the career of that scam artist pretty closely. He told me on Tuesday he was pretty sure the guy would be pardoned/commuted. Reason being that he had hired Dershowitz, and with Trump what counted was who was vouching for you.

I think Trump pardoned anyone who was convicted in connected to the Russia investigation because that’s behind him. But he is still facing impeachment over the election fraud shenanigans, so he was afraid to pardon anyone connected to that.

The comments here about Bannon would make sense if Trump and his supporters believe that Bannon ripped them off. But I doubt if that’s the case.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-guess-at-who-trump-will-pardon-today/930881/74 "2021-01-21T20:08:46Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I kept saying Trump would cave in and pardon himself at the last minute. But he didn’t.

.[https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/20/trump-secret-pardons-validity/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/20/trump-secret-pardons-validity/)

> Did the norm-breaking president break one more on his way out the door, issuing pardons in secret to his friends, family or even himself, break-in-case-of-emergency documents to be produced if necessary?

> In the heat of Watergate, The Post reported that “there is nothing in the federal regulations that requires public notification," paraphrasing Lawrence M. Traylor, the pardon attorney at the Justice Department. “The president could present himself with a written pardon during the next months, date it and quietly deposit it in a trust vault — ready to be pulled as a defense or waiver at any subsequent trial,” The Post noted, according to Traylor.

> We may never know if Trump issued secret pardons in his final hours. If he did, he might have gambled too much on the likelihood that a court would one day recognize their validity.

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