# Take a look at this woman and tell me if she deserves $200K ...

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**Created:** [June 11, 2014, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-look-at-this-woman-and-tell-me-if-she-deserves-200k/690540 "2014-06-11T14:44:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-look-at-this-woman-and-tell-me-if-she-deserves-200k/690540/1 "2014-06-11T14:44:46Z")

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after drugging a wealthy man with a drug similar to the date rape drug.

Here is a link to the story:

> **[The strippers arrested for drugging, blackmailing rich clients](https://nypost.com/2014/06/11/strippers-busted-in-plot-to-drug-blackmail-wealthy-clients/)**
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> A crew of brunette strippers targeting rich marks drugged the men, racked up huge jiggle joint bills on their credit cards and blackmailed them with “compromising” XXX photographs, officials said W…

The headline reads as follows:

**Strippers busted in plot to drug, blackmail wealthy clients**

Apparently some NYC strippers drugged some wealthy men and then rang up huge charges on their credit cars (huge as in about $200K).

My question is: If you had access to all that money, would you succumb to a woman who looks like the one in this article? IMHO, she is not at all attractive and I wouldn’t give her any money at all for some kind of sexual services. I wouldn’t pay her a dime.

Actually, that may not be true. I would pay her something to go away and leave me alone if I never again had to look at her hideous face.

Would you give her money for some kind of stripper services?

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-look-at-this-woman-and-tell-me-if-she-deserves-200k/690540/2 "2014-06-11T14:52:39Z")

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I have to wonder why a wealthy guy would be going to some shithole strip club in Queens instead of Flashdancers, Sapphire or Hustler Club in Manhattan.

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**Author:** ![JKilez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e5b9ba/32.png) [@JKilez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKilez)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-look-at-this-woman-and-tell-me-if-she-deserves-200k/690540/3 "2014-06-11T15:00:36Z")

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> [@Charlie\_Wayne](#):
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> My question is: If you had access to all that money, would you succumb to a woman who looks like the one in this article? IMHO, she is not at all attractive and I wouldn’t give her any money at all for some kind of sexual services. I wouldn’t pay her a dime.

I hear she looks better when she has something in her mouth. 😃

That’s just what I heard.

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-look-at-this-woman-and-tell-me-if-she-deserves-200k/690540/4 "2014-06-11T15:01:02Z")

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Different people find different things attractive, fortunately for those of us who don’t look like airbrushed supermodels. I don’t think that woman is unattractive at all. From your comments, I was expecting a toothless, wrinkled hag with stringy hair and assorted scars…

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-look-at-this-woman-and-tell-me-if-she-deserves-200k/690540/5 "2014-06-11T15:16:03Z")

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> [@FairyChatMom](#):
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> Different people find different things attractive, fortunately for those of us who don’t look like airbrushed supermodels. I don’t think that woman is unattractive at all. From your comments, I was expecting a toothless, wrinkled hag with stringy hair and assorted scars…

Agreed.

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**Author:** ![DataX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@DataX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DataX)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-look-at-this-woman-and-tell-me-if-she-deserves-200k/690540/6 "2014-06-11T15:19:17Z")

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> [@FairyChatMom](#):
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> Different people find different things attractive, fortunately for those of us who don’t look like airbrushed supermodels. I don’t think that woman is unattractive at all. From your comments, I was expecting a toothless, wrinkled hag with stringy hair and assorted scars…

I kinda feel the same way.

Who knows what she looks like all dolled up. I’m sure the OP has seen stuff like this before, but…

> **[See the Latest Stars Who Have Joined the No-Makeup Selfie Crew](https://www.usmagazine.com/stylish/pictures/stars-without-makeup-20122410/)**
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> See these celebrities who look radiant even without makeup, including Pippa Middleton, Zendaya, Brooklyn Decker and more stars!

Girl on the left - no way. Of course she is the same as the girl on the right.

And don’t forget Hugh Grant - he screwed things up with one of the most beautiful women in the world for a fairly unattractive woman.

It’s amazing how relatively plain looking women can be transformed into gorgeous knockouts with the right makeup and clothes. I’m not sure I get what make some women look so much better - is it the skill of the makeup artist - or something about their bone structure and skin?

But $200k is of course a ridiculous fee and I never got the allure of Strip Clubs anyway. Jesus - for $200K you could go to a country where prostitution was legal (I think I’d skip the outskirts of Nevada) - and have a selection of really beautiful women for a long, long time before you ran out of $200K.

Anyway - although the first woman looks like she has (to me - I am no expert) a bit of makeup on - she obviously wasn’t trying to look her best at that moment. If all women were to be judged when they are forced to do a perp walk - I think you’d be disappointed in a lot of women you think are attractive now.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-look-at-this-woman-and-tell-me-if-she-deserves-200k/690540/7 "2014-06-11T15:29:16Z")

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> [@DataX](#):
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> It’s amazing how relatively plain looking women can be transformed into gorgeous knockouts with the right makeup and clothes.

It’s not just that: a still photograph often doesn’t do a person justice. I’ve certainly seen unattractive photos of people who, when I’ve interacted with them in person, I’ve found quite attractive.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-look-at-this-woman-and-tell-me-if-she-deserves-200k/690540/8 "2014-06-11T15:32:53Z")

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It is hard to look one’s best when being hauled off by the cops. 😃

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-look-at-this-woman-and-tell-me-if-she-deserves-200k/690540/9 "2014-06-11T15:35:49Z")

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> [@DataX](#):
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> I’m sure the OP has seen stuff like this before, but…  
> [Natural Beauty: Stars Without Makeup | Us Weekly](http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-beauty/pictures/stars-without-makeup-20122410/26871)
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> Girl on the left - no way. Of course she is the same as the girl on the right.

Interesting. I much prefer the girl on the left, even with her expression. The one on the right looks very fake, shiny, and unattractive.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-look-at-this-woman-and-tell-me-if-she-deserves-200k/690540/10 "2014-06-11T15:40:58Z")

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Well you gotta remember that the OP is [so disgusted by Michelle Obama’s looks](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17250417&postcount=251) that he, as they say, “wouldn’t touch her with Bea Arthur’s dick.”

His love meter swings totally the other way for [Amy Adams](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17222810&postcount=48). He would like to meet her so they can fall madly in love.

So it’s not hard believe that he would be icky poo grossed out by a couple of olive skinned strippers with extra curves and botox lips. Especially when they are not dressed up in their man-pleasing attire - since he is also a fashion expert.

The funny part is that he feels so strongly about each of these women, enough to say the most horrible and/or creepy things about them. There is no middle ground for Charlie. Good show.

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**Author:** ![PurpleClogs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f04885/32.png) [@PurpleClogs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PurpleClogs)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-look-at-this-woman-and-tell-me-if-she-deserves-200k/690540/11 "2014-06-11T15:44:13Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> I have to wonder why a wealthy guy would be going to some shithole strip club in Queens instead of Flashdancers, Sapphire or Hustler Club in Manhattan.

People he knows might be at the clubs in Manhatten. He can keep his anonymity in Queens. No friends, neighbors, or coworkers to bump into.

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**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-look-at-this-woman-and-tell-me-if-she-deserves-200k/690540/12 "2014-06-11T15:49:30Z")

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Looking only at the thread title, I thought this was going to be about Hillary Clinton’s fees for speeches.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-look-at-this-woman-and-tell-me-if-she-deserves-200k/690540/13 "2014-06-11T18:40:10Z")

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If you read the article, most of victims were targeted at smaller bars or restaurants in Manhattan where they were drugged and then taken to the strip clubs and had their cards charged and then to hotels where incriminating photos were taken. If the article is true, then these victims weren’t trolling strip clubs and just got hit, which as far as I know, going into a strip is not illegal, but fraudulently charging someone’s card is.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-look-at-this-woman-and-tell-me-if-she-deserves-200k/690540/14 "2014-06-11T19:05:17Z")

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\*…Breaking News…A man criticizes another man for having different taste in women!!..Internet reels in shock!!!.. \*

> [@Sunspace](#):
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> Interesting. I much prefer the girl on the left, even with her expression. The one on the right looks very fake, shiny, and unattractive.

\*…Breaking News…A man on the Straight Dope falls all over himself trying to show that he’s not superficial!!!..Doper women roll their eyes… \*

Seriously, dude. Spare us. Do you really expect us to believe that you think left-girl is prettier than right-girl? Makeup washes off, you know. She’s obviously super-glammed up for the red carpet. It’s part of her job. You can’t possibly think she looks that way all the time. If you were to show those two pictures to a person who didn’t know that they were the both of the same person and ask “which one of these women would be more attractive with no makeup or styling,” nobody would say “oh, I’ll take the one on the left.”

For those of you who didn’t look at the pictures - they are both of Mila Kunis. The left-hand picture doesn’t even look like her. It’s not that she has no make-up on. It’s just that it’s a phenomenally bad picture.

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**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-look-at-this-woman-and-tell-me-if-she-deserves-200k/690540/15 "2014-06-11T19:25:12Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> I have to wonder why a wealthy guy would be going to some shithole strip club in Queens instead of Flashdancers, Sapphire or Hustler Club in Manhattan.

In a word, parking.

Also, I don’t know the place mentioned in the article, but Queens has some huge, flashy, expensive strip joints, mostly along Queens Boulevard. They’re not all shitholes. And they’re much more accessible to anyone driving than any place in Manhattan.

The story mentioned that one of the accused women brought her mark from Nassau County to the joint in Queens. Makes perfect sense, if you look at a map.

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**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-look-at-this-woman-and-tell-me-if-she-deserves-200k/690540/16 "2014-06-11T20:05:13Z")

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> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> \*…Breaking News…A man criticizes another man for having different taste in women!!..Internet reels in shock!!!.. \*  
> \*…Breaking News…A man on the Straight Dope falls all over himself trying to show that he’s not superficial!!!..Doper women roll their eyes… \*
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> Seriously, dude. Spare us. Do you really expect us to believe that you think left-girl is prettier than right-girl? Makeup washes off, you know. She’s obviously super-glammed up for the red carpet. It’s part of her job. You can’t possibly think she looks that way all the time. If you were to show those two pictures to a person who didn’t know that they were the both of the same person and ask “which one of these women would be more attractive with no makeup or styling,” nobody would say “oh, I’ll take the one on the left.”

:rolleyes: Get a grip dear!

Do you seriously think a guy saying he thinks one stripper looks better than another stripper is saying that to persuade online women that he is not superficial?

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-look-at-this-woman-and-tell-me-if-she-deserves-200k/690540/17 "2014-06-11T20:16:33Z")

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> [@Green\_Bean](#):
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> Seriously, dude. Spare us. Do you really expect us to believe that you think left-girl is prettier than right-girl? Makeup washes off, you know. She’s obviously super-glammed up for the red carpet. It’s part of her job. You can’t possibly think she looks that way all the time. If you were to show those two pictures to a person who didn’t know that they were the both of the same person and ask “which one of these women would be more attractive with no makeup or styling,” nobody would say “oh, I’ll take the one on the left.”
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> For those of you who didn’t look at the pictures - they are both of Mila Kunis. The left-hand picture doesn’t even look like her. It’s not that she has no make-up on. It’s just that it’s a phenomenally bad picture.

In all fairness, that is the worst “glamour” picture of Mila I have ever seen. Something Jersey-shore-whore about her eye make-up there. I honestly had to look at the caption to figure out who it was.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-look-at-this-woman-and-tell-me-if-she-deserves-200k/690540/18 "2014-06-11T20:25:10Z")

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I guess she must have a nice personali-

> [@Charlie\_Wayne](#):
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> **Strippers busted in plot to drug, blackmail wealthy clients**

Nevermind.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-look-at-this-woman-and-tell-me-if-she-deserves-200k/690540/19 "2014-06-11T20:32:28Z")

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I agree with the OP. They look very hardened and street wise too me. Too many nights out getting high and partying. I can’t imagine hiring them for any sexual purposes.

I’d be afraid to even let them in my house to use the telephone. They are mean looking.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2014, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-a-look-at-this-woman-and-tell-me-if-she-deserves-200k/690540/20 "2014-06-11T21:00:42Z")

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Strip clubs aren’t known for being well lit, for good reason.

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