# Take Cyber Monday and shove it.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-cyber-monday-and-shove-it/519415>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 30, 2009, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-cyber-monday-and-shove-it/519415 "2009-11-30T02:05:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-cyber-monday-and-shove-it/519415/1 "2009-11-30T02:05:40Z")

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Quit inventing this crap. My email inbox is getting flooded with crap about Cyber Monday, as though I’m obligated to buy something. Fuck all of you and shove it. If anything, I will boycott it.

It’s like Mother-in-Law day. The only one’s that should promote a day like that are the gun shops.

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**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-cyber-monday-and-shove-it/519415/2 "2009-11-30T02:10:28Z")

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Take Cyber Monday and shove it.

Yes please. We do not need a retailer name for every day between Thanksgiving and Christmas. Wait until Sales Sucked Monday Tuesday.

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**Author:** ![capybara](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/capybara/32/202_2.png) [@capybara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capybara)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-cyber-monday-and-shove-it/519415/3 "2009-11-30T02:11:44Z")

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What is this? Haven’t even heard of it. Context?

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-cyber-monday-and-shove-it/519415/4 "2009-11-30T02:14:14Z")

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> [@capybara](#):
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> What is this? Haven’t even heard of it. Context?

It’s the newly invented (at least I never heard of til last year, I think) online alternative to Black Monday. I’ve only gotten one email, from Borders, offering me a “buy one book, get the second one 60% off” deal if I buy online tomorrow. No thanks.

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**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-cyber-monday-and-shove-it/519415/5 "2009-11-30T02:27:29Z")

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Moved from The BBQ Pit to Mundane Pointless Stuff I Must Share.

**Gfactor**  
Pit Moderator

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**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/848f3c/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_Dunlop)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-cyber-monday-and-shove-it/519415/6 "2009-11-30T02:41:20Z")

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> [@Kyla](#):
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> It’s the newly invented (at least I never heard of til last year, I think) online alternative to Black Monday. I’ve only gotten one email, from Borders, offering me a “buy one book, get the second one 60% off” deal if I buy online tomorrow. No thanks.

It was created in 2004 by the National Retail Federation but has, in my experience, largely been a nonsense fluff term used by the media. It doesn’t really have any basis in reality and isn’t meaningful in any way. Black Friday is, of course, also heavily abused by marketing and advertising depts. at retailers, but it’s at least a very meaningful date for U.S. retailers. Black Friday is at least the biggest shopping day in the year, although being the start of the holiday season shopping is more important. Cyber Monday isn’t even the biggest online shopping day of the year, let alone a meaningful beginning to the ecommerce holiday season.

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**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-cyber-monday-and-shove-it/519415/7 "2009-11-30T02:51:09Z")

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> [@Kyla](#):
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> It’s the newly invented (at least I never heard of til last year, I think) online alternative to Black Monday. I’ve only gotten one email, from Borders, offering me a “buy one book, get the second one 60% off” deal if I buy online tomorrow. No thanks.

Borders is also offering free shipping on Monday, which makes it worth me shopping online instead of making the trip to my local store. Which is good, because I have $10 in BordersBucks to use up by tomorrow, and this saves me the trouble of adding an errand to my list.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-cyber-monday-and-shove-it/519415/8 "2009-11-30T02:56:52Z")

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> [@capybara](#):
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> What is this? Haven’t even heard of it. Context?

The theory was that people didn’t have good Internet connections and so spent the Monday after Thanksgiving buying stuff online using their work connection. I suspect that today anyone who can do this already has broadband at home, so it has become a pointless marketing opportunity. I’m dreading what I’m going to be finding in my Yahoo inbox when I check it in a few minutes.

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**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-cyber-monday-and-shove-it/519415/9 "2009-11-30T03:03:04Z")

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Cyber Monday is based upon the idea that on line retailers will see a big bump in sales from the people who shopped on line while they were home over the 4 day Thanksgiving weekend. Not that Monday is a big shopping day.

Monday 11-30, when the sales results from the weekend are reported will tell retailers if they are going to have a good season, or if people are holding back to shop later or spend less. A poor showing tomorrow will bode badly for the retail season as a whole, both on line and off. It is a seasonal economic indicator.

That is it’s only real significance.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-cyber-monday-and-shove-it/519415/10 "2009-11-30T03:09:05Z")

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Aw, and here I thought this was gonna be about Cyber(sex) Monday. Where is the thread for _that_?

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**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-cyber-monday-and-shove-it/519415/11 "2009-11-30T04:05:21Z")

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> [@Gfactor](#):
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> Moved from The BBQ Pit to Mundane Pointless Stuff I Must Share.
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> **Gfactor**  
> Pit Moderator

Excuse me. I forgot that we have to keep the Pit spotless.

Is MPSIMS the new dumping ground for irate, profane rants?

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**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-cyber-monday-and-shove-it/519415/12 "2009-11-30T04:11:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Fuzzy Dunlop]  
Black Friday is at least the biggest shopping day in the year, although being the start of the holiday season shopping is more important.  
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Interestingly,[it’s not](http://www.snopes.com/holidays/thanksgiving/shopping.asp).

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-cyber-monday-and-shove-it/519415/13 "2009-11-30T05:18:21Z")

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> [@LurkMeister](#):
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> Borders is also offering free shipping on Monday, which makes it worth me shopping online instead of making the trip to my local store. Which is good, because I have $10 in BordersBucks to use up by tomorrow, and this saves me the trouble of adding an errand to my list.

I can see this being convenient for lots of people, but there’s a Borders (the original Borders, in fact) just a couple blocks from campus and it’s easier for me just to go there than to wait for something to be mailed to me.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-cyber-monday-and-shove-it/519415/14 "2009-11-30T05:24:27Z")

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> [@Kyla](#):
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> I can see this being convenient for lots of people, but there’s a Borders (the original Borders, in fact) just a couple blocks from campus and it’s easier for me just to go there than to wait for something to be mailed to me.

You back in town again?

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**Author:** ![Peg\_Leg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/90db22/32.png) [@Peg\_Leg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peg_Leg)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-cyber-monday-and-shove-it/519415/15 "2009-11-30T12:47:04Z")

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I’m perfectly ok with any fluff that retail invents that allows me discounts on items I was gonna buy anyways.

Never heard of someone getting irritated over lower prices.

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**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/848f3c/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_Dunlop)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-cyber-monday-and-shove-it/519415/16 "2009-11-30T13:35:49Z")

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> [@ghardester](#):
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> Cyber Monday is based upon the idea that on line retailers will see a big bump in sales from the people who shopped on line while they were home over the 4 day Thanksgiving weekend. Not that Monday is a big shopping day.

No it isn’t. It’s based on the idea that Monday will be a big sales day. Why would retailers aggregate the previous four day’s sales and attribute them to some other day?

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-cyber-monday-and-shove-it/519415/17 "2009-11-30T14:04:14Z")

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I can just look at our system monitors to confirm that today (and tomorrow) will probably be our busiest days of the year.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-cyber-monday-and-shove-it/519415/18 "2009-11-30T14:13:30Z")

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> [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](#):
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> Black Friday is at least the biggest shopping day in the year,

[It’s not.](http://www.snopes.com/holidays/thanksgiving/shopping.asp) I also doubt it’s the day that most retailers go into the black for the year; if you have to depend on Black Friday to stay in business, you’re not doing things right.

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**Author:** ![MitzeKatze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ad7895/32.png) [@MitzeKatze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MitzeKatze)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-cyber-monday-and-shove-it/519415/19 "2009-11-30T14:21:06Z")

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> [@Peg\_Leg](#):
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> I’m perfectly ok with any fluff that retail invents that allows me discounts on items I was gonna buy anyways.
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> Never heard of someone getting irritated over lower prices.

Me too. I just did half of my Christmas shopping that was left online and one item that my daughter has been wanting was a ridiculous $30 with free shipping as a “Cyber Monday Deal”. The usual cost is $70-100 (although the site _claims_ it retails for $220) and the weight is enough that shipping alone would ordinarily put me off of buying it online.

I have not been flooded with email (just a few actually and all were useful to me) and truly did appreciate the price breaks. Even if it is made-up and not an accurate representation of what it was meant to be, anything that saves me money is a good thing.

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-cyber-monday-and-shove-it/519415/20 "2009-11-30T14:21:47Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> You back in town again?

Yup, since September.

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