# Take you opinion, your skepticism, and your tragic excuse for reason and shove em. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 9, 2009, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-you-opinion-your-skepticism-and-your-tragic-excuse-for-reason-and-shove-em/499187 "2009-06-09T05:12:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-you-opinion-your-skepticism-and-your-tragic-excuse-for-reason-and-shove-em/499187/201 "2009-06-11T16:28:43Z")
> [@ivn1188](#): > > I liken this situation to an incident we had back in '57. Dude walks into the local bar (this was in Rutherford, NM) and tells us that he just shot Hitler for trying to steal his motorcycle. The guy is obviously wasted on peyote (still had the feathered headdress on), but we go outside to check. No Hitler, but there was Stalin. He was getting ready to rape the dude’s bike, even though he was bleeding from the hole in his lung. So we picked up our BARs and opened fire for Truth, Justice, and the American Way. > > It wasn’t until a few seconds later, when the firing stopped, that we realized our mistake. It wasn’t Stalin. No, it was worse. It was the Chupacabra. Fucker shrugged off our bullets like nerf darts and went after Injun Joe. But ol’ Joe was quick and managed to get his knife out in time, and he was an old hand at killing grizzlies in hand-to-hand combat from his time spent prospecting for alien artifacts up in the Bitterroot range in the thirties. Chupacabra ain’t got much on a grizzly, and 'fore long it gave up the fight and ran off, though without a couple of claws on one arm. Joe strung 'em up on his necklace right next to the bear claws. > > Now, I don’t take no cotton to you naysayers. Chupacabra Stalin was a motocycle rapist, even after he was shot, and regardless of what you think about chupacabra, I’ll be a boar’s teat if you can deny that the story lends credence to my point that Chupacabra was in a few off-broadway musicals. Where the fuck else would he learn to disguise himself as Stalin? So stop your pinko commie thread hijacks, lest you end up like those Chinese river pirates we fought right before the big deuce… Stolen, submitted under my name to [cracked.com](http://cracked.com) ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-you-opinion-your-skepticism-and-your-tragic-excuse-for-reason-and-shove-em/499187/202 "2009-06-11T17:30:45Z")
> [@Dag\_Otto](#): > > Even then, it could come back as a zombie. In fact, any thread could come back as a zombie thread, so I suggest that the moderators lock every thread after the initial post, just to be sure. You have to nuke it from orbit. It’s the **only** way to be sure. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-you-opinion-your-skepticism-and-your-tragic-excuse-for-reason-and-shove-em/499187/203 "2009-06-11T17:49:24Z")
> [@Contrapuntal](#): > > Did I confuse with the poster who said this?Because that sure looked like you. That was me and note that I said “who cares about the truth or lack there of in that story”, because that wasn’t my point. > [@](#): > > And citing an imaginary story to support a position has a fatal flaw; namely, that citing an imaginary story can be used to attack a position with equal validity, thereby rendering the tactic pointless. Surely you can see this. And surely you can see that a) you don’t know that the story is imaginary, you just rush to assume it is, and b) even if that story was imaginary, one can easily find one that is cite-able that will read very much the same. But instead of staying on point, you’d rather spend time bitching about the fact that the original story doesn’t have a cite you can see. > [@](#): > > If the “insignificant details” call into question whether a story is true or not, they are not really insignificant. In fact, they are crucial. What detail in that story did you decide made that story untrue? > [@](#): > > So A) You got nothing but bullshit, and B) you have an odd idea of what makes one thing very much like another. Thank you for once again proving my point about many of the people in this forum. ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-you-opinion-your-skepticism-and-your-tragic-excuse-for-reason-and-shove-em/499187/204 "2009-06-11T18:28:19Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > even if that story was imaginary, one can easily find one that is cite-able that will read very much the same. Actually, I suggested this previously in this thread, but instead of arguing back and forth, wouldn’t it be easier to just find that citable and similar story and post it in the GD thread or this thread? I would think it might well have made this thread several pages shorter. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-you-opinion-your-skepticism-and-your-tragic-excuse-for-reason-and-shove-em/499187/205 "2009-06-11T18:45:35Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > That was me and note that I said “who cares about the truth or lack there of in that story”, because that wasn’t my point. To answer your question, I care, as well as several other posters in this thread. > [@](#): > > And surely you can see that a) you don’t know that the story is imaginary, you just rush to assume it is, and b) even if that story was imaginary, one can easily find one that is cite-able that will read very much the same. I didn’t sat it was imaginary. I said if it were imaginary, it would be useless, for reasons already explained. > [@](#): > > But instead of staying on point, You’re the one that claimed it didn’t matter if the story was untrue. Feel free to retract that claim. > [@](#): > > you’d rather spend time bitching about the fact that the original story doesn’t have a cite you can see. Have I bitched about the original story not having a cite? Where? > [@](#): > > What detail in that story did you decide made that story untrue? Have I said the story was untrue? Where? > [@](#): > > Thank you for once again proving my point about many of the people in this forum. You’ll need to explain that. You can start by explaining how just \*any \*story about a criminal being injured and continuing with his crime is “very much like” **cosmosdan’s** story. [QUOTE=Arnold Winkelried] Actually, I suggested this previously in this thread, but instead of arguing back and forth, wouldn’t it be easier to just find that citable and similar story and post it in the GD thread or this thread? I would think it might well have made this thread several pages shorter. [/QUOTE] Well see, \*\*cosmosdan \*\*doesn’t care what people on a message board think, and \*\*curlcoat \*\* can’t be bothered. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-you-opinion-your-skepticism-and-your-tragic-excuse-for-reason-and-shove-em/499187/206 "2009-06-11T22:43:06Z")
> [@Arnold\_Winkelried](#): > > Actually, I suggested this previously in this thread, but instead of arguing back and forth, wouldn’t it be easier to just find that citable and similar story and post it in the GD thread or this thread? I would think it might well have made this thread several pages shorter. Depends on the goal. Myself, I am not in the GD thread nor do I really care if the story is fully factual or not. The OP apparently doesn’t care if anyone believes if the story is true or not. YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-you-opinion-your-skepticism-and-your-tragic-excuse-for-reason-and-shove-em/499187/207 "2009-06-11T22:49:23Z")
> [@Contrapuntal](#): > > To answer your question, I care, as well as several other posters in this thread. Yes, I know, which is why I think this forum has more immature people than actual intelligent ones. > [@](#): > > You’re the one that claimed it didn’t matter if the story was untrue. Feel free to retract that claim. I see no reason to retract that, and it still has nothing to do with my point. > [@](#): > > Have I bitched about the original story not having a cite? Where? Then, what are you bitching about? > [@](#): > > Have I said the story was untrue? Where? Ditto this. > [@](#): > > You’ll need to explain that. You can start by explaining how just \*any \*story about a criminal being injured and continuing with his crime is “very much like” **cosmosdan’s** story. Sigh. How am I supposed to explain that to you if you don’t see it yourself? You honestly cannot see the similarities in **Cosmosdan’s** story and the one in the GD thread? > [@](#): > > Well see, \*\*cosmosdan \*\*doesn’t care what people on a message board think, and \*\*curlcoat \*\* can’t be bothered. No, I cannot be bothered to spend a bunch of time sitting here looking for cites for something that has almost nothing to do with my point. If you weren’t continuing to prove my point, I probably wouldn’t even bother with you. ---
**Author:** ![ambushed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3bc359/32.png) [@ambushed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ambushed)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-you-opinion-your-skepticism-and-your-tragic-excuse-for-reason-and-shove-em/499187/208 "2009-06-12T01:30:36Z")
Well, _I_ think that **cosmodan** , **jimpatro** , and now **curlcoat** have given in far too soon and easy. Replace those rapidly-weakening shoring timbers with rebars and quick-setting cement, and I figger they can get at least another three to five hundred feet… er, _posts_, without much additional risk of cave-ins. Why stop now? Just as they’re winning us over? ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-you-opinion-your-skepticism-and-your-tragic-excuse-for-reason-and-shove-em/499187/209 "2009-06-12T18:29:33Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > Sigh. How am I supposed to explain that to you if you don’t see it yourself? You honestly cannot see the similarities in **Cosmosdan’s** story and the one in the GD thread? Inasmuch as his story seems to be made up out of whole cloth, whatever similarities exist are of no import. Feel free to cite an actual story with similarities sufficient to make it very much like both **cosmosdan** ’s and the one in GD. And kindly stop asserting positions for me that I have not taken. It’s just rude. ---
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-you-opinion-your-skepticism-and-your-tragic-excuse-for-reason-and-shove-em/499187/210 "2009-06-12T19:29:04Z")
> [@Contrapuntal](#): > > Feel free to cite an actual story with similarities sufficient to make it very much like both **cosmosdan** ’s and the one in GD. Okay dammit, now I’ve got [this](http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/5022/5022_01.asp) stuck in my head. It’s “Good Ol’ Boys” --Jack Chick’s smackdown of the Masons. It starts off with a submachine gun massacre in a jungle church, where only those brave enough to not deny Jesus are spared. It then cuts to a quiet U.S. cafe where the smart guy assures the uninformed guy, “Things like this are happening all over the world, Robbie.” And make no mistake, the massacre story is extremely relevant to whether or not you should join the Masons. And if Mr. Chick accidentally got any of the details wrong, that really doesn’t matter either. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-you-opinion-your-skepticism-and-your-tragic-excuse-for-reason-and-shove-em/499187/211 "2009-06-12T19:43:24Z")
> [@Contrapuntal](#): > > Inasmuch as his story seems to be made up out of whole cloth, whatever similarities exist are of no import. Feel free to cite an actual story with similarities sufficient to make it very much like both **cosmosdan** ’s and the one in GD. Again, proving my point. It really doesn’t matter to the GD thread if **Cosmosdan’s** story was made up of whole cloth, but you keep digging at it instead of addressing what I say. > [@](#): > > And kindly stop asserting positions for me that I have not taken. It’s just rude. I have no idea what you mean by that, but I do note that you don’t have any problem asserting a position for me that I have not taken. Which is looking for a story with similarities to the one in GD. I’ve said at least twice that I have no interest in that since it has nothing to do with my point. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-you-opinion-your-skepticism-and-your-tragic-excuse-for-reason-and-shove-em/499187/212 "2009-06-12T21:18:09Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > Again, proving my point. It really doesn’t matter to the GD thread if **Cosmosdan’s** story was made up of whole cloth, but you keep digging at it instead of addressing what I say. It’s crucial to it, as I have said numerous times, only to hear nothing but crickets chirping from you. I’ll try again. If you and I are are having a disagreement, and you get to make up a story to prove your point, then I do to, etc, etc. etc. An imaginary story has no value. > [@](#): > > I have no idea what you mean by that, You said I was bitching about the story not having a cite, and that I claimed the story was untrue. > [@](#): > > but I do note that you don’t have any problem asserting a position for me that I have not taken. Which is looking for a story with similarities to the one in GD. I’ve said at least twice that I have no interest in that since it has nothing to do with my point. You claimed it was easy to do. You have no interest in finding such a story because you know you can’t. If it’s so easy, why not just do it? Put up or shut up. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-you-opinion-your-skepticism-and-your-tragic-excuse-for-reason-and-shove-em/499187/213 "2009-06-12T21:34:35Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > Again, proving my point. It really doesn’t matter to the GD thread if **Cosmosdan’s** story was made up of whole cloth, but you keep digging at it instead of addressing what I say. Did your parent’s speak Moronic or did you have to take a class in high school? It totally does matter if **cosmos** ’s story is fiction or not. I can make up anything to support any point. How dumb are you to not understand that? I mean, people gave examples, ffs. > [@](#): > > I have no idea what you mean by that, but I do note that you don’t have any problem asserting a position for me that I have not taken. Which is looking for a story with similarities to the one in GD. I’ve said at least twice that I have no interest in that since it has nothing to do with my point. As long as your point is “I’m a frikkin’ idiot. You’re prolly better just dismissing everything I say out of hand”, then you’ve made your point pretty well. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-you-opinion-your-skepticism-and-your-tragic-excuse-for-reason-and-shove-em/499187/214 "2009-06-13T00:30:54Z")
And this time I was personally involved. This morning just after midnight someone threw a cinder block through the glass in the front door of my store, came in a stole a Sony LCD TV and left. I know it sounds like I’m totally making it up. A cinder block? Rather than using a hammer or a tire iron or something. Still. I saw it with my own eyes. I realize a cinder block makes the story sound like total bullshit but it’s true. when he came in he wasn’t wearing any disguise at all. No ski mask, hat or glasses or anything. Granted nobody was there but all criminals must know about video cameras. It’s hard to believe he came in like that I know. Doesn’t really make sense does it? Still, I’m not making it up. Then, he stole\* one \*TV when we have so much other stuff. He didn’t even get the most expensive one. He basically grabbed the first one he came to and took off. Why wouldn’t he come back in to grab another TV or some of the other valuable stuff that’s right there? It’s just too bizarre. I know you all think I’m totally making this shot up but it’s true. It probably hasn’t made google yet so if you want to verify it call the Murfreesboro TN police department to verify. I’m sure their numbers on google as well as the address of the store Essex retail. I know I’ll get more flack for this and be accused of making it up or hallucinating, but there it is. Truth is stranger than fiction. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![emcee2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@emcee2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emcee2k)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-you-opinion-your-skepticism-and-your-tragic-excuse-for-reason-and-shove-em/499187/215 "2009-06-13T00:46:31Z")
> [@cosmosdan](#): > > And this time I was personally involved. > > This morning just after midnight someone threw a cinder block through the glass in the front door of my store, came in a stole a Sony LCD TV and left. > > I know it sounds like I’m totally making it up. A cinder block? Rather than using a hammer or a tire iron or something. Still. I saw it with my own eyes. I realize a cinder block makes the story sound like total bullshit but it’s true. > > when he came in he wasn’t wearing any disguise at all. No ski mask, hat or glasses or anything. Granted nobody was there but all criminals must know about video cameras. It’s hard to believe he came in like that I know. Doesn’t really make sense does it? Still, I’m not making it up. > > Then, he stole\* one \*TV when we have so much other stuff. He didn’t even get the most expensive one. He basically grabbed the first one he came to and took off. Why wouldn’t he come back in to grab another TV or some of the other valuable stuff that’s right there? It’s just too bizarre. I know you all think I’m totally making this shot up but it’s true. It probably hasn’t made google yet so if you want to verify it call the Murfreesboro TN police department to verify. I’m sure their numbers on google as well as the address of the store Essex retail. > > I know I’ll get more flack for this and be accused of making it up or hallucinating, but there it is. Truth is stranger than fiction. 😃 Some crackhead throwing the first available object through your window, grabbing something and running is hardly equivalent to your other story. Even if it was, you put a way of verifying it right there in the same post. After all this, you still don’t understand why people don’t believe that story? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-you-opinion-your-skepticism-and-your-tragic-excuse-for-reason-and-shove-em/499187/216 "2009-06-13T00:59:54Z")
> [@cosmosdan](#): > > And this time I was personally involved. > > This morning just after midnight someone threw a cinder block through the glass in the front door of my store, came in a stole a Sony LCD TV and left. > > I know it sounds like I’m totally making it up. A cinder block? Rather than using a hammer or a tire iron or something. Still. I saw it with my own eyes. I realize a cinder block makes the story sound like total bullshit but it’s true. > > when he came in he wasn’t wearing any disguise at all. No ski mask, hat or glasses or anything. Granted nobody was there but all criminals must know about video cameras. It’s hard to believe he came in like that I know. Doesn’t really make sense does it? Still, I’m not making it up. > > Then, he stole\* one \*TV when we have so much other stuff. He didn’t even get the most expensive one. He basically grabbed the first one he came to and took off. Why wouldn’t he come back in to grab another TV or some of the other valuable stuff that’s right there? It’s just too bizarre. I know you all think I’m totally making this shot up but it’s true. It probably hasn’t made google yet so if you want to verify it call the Murfreesboro TN police department to verify. I’m sure their numbers on google as well as the address of the store Essex retail. > > I know I’ll get more flack for this and be accused of making it up or hallucinating, but there it is. Truth is stranger than fiction. 😃 Pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-you-opinion-your-skepticism-and-your-tragic-excuse-for-reason-and-shove-em/499187/217 "2009-06-13T01:42:59Z")
I haven’t bothered to read the entire thread. Does **cosmosdan** provide a cite or not? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-you-opinion-your-skepticism-and-your-tragic-excuse-for-reason-and-shove-em/499187/218 "2009-06-13T01:45:30Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > I haven’t bothered to read the entire thread. > > Does **cosmosdan** provide a cite or not? No. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-you-opinion-your-skepticism-and-your-tragic-excuse-for-reason-and-shove-em/499187/219 "2009-06-13T02:17:07Z")
> [@cosmosdan](#): > > And this time I was personally involved. > > This morning just after midnight someone threw a cinder block through the glass in the front door of my store, came in a stole a Sony LCD TV and left. > > I know it sounds like I’m totally making it up. A cinder block? Rather than using a hammer or a tire iron or something. Still. I saw it with my own eyes. I realize a cinder block makes the story sound like total bullshit but it’s true. > > when he came in he wasn’t wearing any disguise at all. No ski mask, hat or glasses or anything. Granted nobody was there but all criminals must know about video cameras. It’s hard to believe he came in like that I know. Doesn’t really make sense does it? Still, I’m not making it up. > > Then, he stole\* one \*TV when we have so much other stuff. He didn’t even get the most expensive one. He basically grabbed the first one he came to and took off. Why wouldn’t he come back in to grab another TV or some of the other valuable stuff that’s right there? It’s just too bizarre. I know you all think I’m totally making this shot up but it’s true. It probably hasn’t made google yet so if you want to verify it call the Murfreesboro TN police department to verify. I’m sure their numbers on google as well as the address of the store Essex retail. > > I know I’ll get more flack for this and be accused of making it up or hallucinating, but there it is. Truth is stranger than fiction. 😃 And you weren’t there to shot him incase he raped your sisters? Negligent bastard. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-you-opinion-your-skepticism-and-your-tragic-excuse-for-reason-and-shove-em/499187/220 "2009-06-13T03:08:23Z")
> [@Contrapuntal](#): > > It’s crucial to it, as I have said numerous times, only to hear nothing but crickets chirping from you. I’ll try again. If you and I are are having a disagreement, and you get to make up a story to prove your point, then I do to, etc, etc. etc. An imaginary story has no value. And as I have said, you have no way of knowing that story was imaginary. Simply because you have decided that it cannot be true doesn’t make it so. And for some bizarre reason, you can’t seem to be able to let it go until I agree with you. > [@](#): > > You said I was bitching about the story not having a cite, and that I claimed the story was untrue. And? > [@](#): > > You claimed it was easy to do. You have no interest in finding such a story because you know you can’t. If it’s so easy, why not just do it? Put up or shut up. Once again - I do not care either way if the story is real, or whether or not I could find a story with a cite that you would accept as “close enough”. I have zero interest in all of that. All I am doing here - again - is pointing out how some people on this forum prefer to spend way too much time picking at and arguing about picky little details that have little to do with the actual point of the OP. Such as what you are doing here. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-you-opinion-your-skepticism-and-your-tragic-excuse-for-reason-and-shove-em/499187.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-you-opinion-your-skepticism-and-your-tragic-excuse-for-reason-and-shove-em/499187.md?page=12)