# Take Your Virginity and Shove It Up Your Ass! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 22, 2003, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-your-virginity-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/150302 "2003-01-22T22:27:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![foxfiregrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3da27b/32.png) [@foxfiregrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foxfiregrrl)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2003, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-your-virginity-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/150302/81 "2003-01-23T04:03:18Z")
I’m kinda disappointed that a great deal of the people in this thread aren’t bothering to make points about anything except their dicks. Certainly lends credibilty to the side of the sexual active. Anyway, I’m all for saving your virginity for marriage, but not if it means repressing sexual desire. That’s unhealthy. If you’re mature enough to handle the sex, you shouldn’t make yourself unhappy by withholding sex in a committed relationship, just because you aren’t married. I do get pissed off at people who call themselves virgins, but have oral sex. Many STDs can be spread through oral sex, and, come on, an orgasm is an orgasm. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2003, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-your-virginity-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/150302/82 "2003-01-23T04:06:41Z")
Hell, if orgasm=sex, I get laid _constantly_. C’mere Rosie, you sultry wench! ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2003, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-your-virginity-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/150302/83 "2003-01-23T04:07:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tuckerfan \* > \*\*NPR just aired a report on abstinence which featured a woman saying, “Take a look at my daughter’s wedding video. She said ‘I saved all my purity and innocence for my wedding.’” Well, isn’t that “special!” That is a pretty fucked up view of sex. So what does she mean, is she no longer pure when she has sex with her husband? She seems to imply that she is going to be spending her purity now that she is married. ---
**Author:** ![Orual](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orual](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orual)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2003, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-your-virginity-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/150302/84 "2003-01-23T04:08:59Z")
I am going to make a sign that reads: 22-year old virgin. **UNNATURAL**. and wear it around my neck. Mayhap I will then take to wearing sackcloth and ashes… What a silly freak I am for wanting actual emotional intimacy along with the physical. ---
**Author:** ![samarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@samarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samarm)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2003, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-your-virginity-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/150302/85 "2003-01-23T04:15:38Z")
What’s your point, **arisu**? Of course there’s nothing wrong with being a virgin at 22. I don’t think anyone here was saying anything to that effect. I would say to you: If you want to have sex then go ahead, because you CAN have emotional intimacy at the same time as the physical intimacy. It’s not an either/or thing. Maybe I misunderstood your post, but that’s my take. ---
**Author:** ![Pucky\_Schumer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/74df32/32.png) [@Pucky\_Schumer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pucky_Schumer)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2003, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-your-virginity-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/150302/86 "2003-01-23T04:16:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MelCthefirst \* > \*\*Gee, men seem really creative when it comes to talking about their dicks - shame their not so creative about communication, housework, romance etc. etc. > (tee hee) \*\* Creativity in housework? Okay, could you mop the floor in garter belts? ---
**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2003, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-your-virginity-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/150302/87 "2003-01-23T04:16:59Z")
Whoooosh. **arisu** , IMHO, it was worth waiting for. ---
**Author:** ![samarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@samarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samarm)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2003, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-your-virginity-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/150302/88 "2003-01-23T04:19:42Z")
Whoosh indeed. Care to un-whoosh me? Or is this a whoosh in itself? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2003, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-your-virginity-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/150302/89 "2003-01-23T04:20:11Z")
Let’s look at nature, shall we? An animal grows up, becomes sexually mature, and starts bellowing/screeching loudly to let potential mates in the vicinity know she’s lookin’ fer love. **That’s** natural. Twisting ourselves up in knots about sex/no sex/virginity/purity/sluttiness etc. is not natural. It’s human. ---
**Author:** ![samarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@samarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samarm)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2003, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-your-virginity-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/150302/90 "2003-01-23T04:21:52Z")
Yes but humans are part of nature, **featherlou**. Just because we’re the most evolved species doesn’t mean we’re not as much a part of nature as cats and dogs. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2003, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-your-virginity-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/150302/91 "2003-01-23T04:21:55Z")
Hm… small nitpick here **arisu** , but don’t assume that just because someone is not a virgin and not married that he/she didn’t wait until he/she had that emotional intimacy. Not every pre-marital sex partner (nor even most, I’d imagine) is a one night stand. ---
**Author:** ![samarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@samarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samarm)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2003, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-your-virginity-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/150302/92 "2003-01-23T04:23:50Z")
That was what I was trying to say in my post, **Eonwe**. I think you probably phrased it better. ---
**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2003, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-your-virginity-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/150302/93 "2003-01-23T04:31:16Z")
**arisu** didn’t say a word about marriage in his/her post. I didn’t get he impression he/she was implying that. ---
**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2003, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-your-virginity-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/150302/94 "2003-01-23T04:31:31Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by featherlou_ > **Let’s look at nature, shall we? An animal grows up, becomes sexually mature, and starts bellowing/screeching loudly to let potential mates in the vicinity know she’s lookin’ fer love. That’s natural. Twisting ourselves up in knots about sex/no sex/virginity/purity/sluttiness etc. is not natural. It’s human.** > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by samarm \* > \*\*Yes but humans are part of nature, **featherlou**. Just because we’re the most evolved species doesn’t mean we’re not as much a part of nature as cats and dogs. \*\* I would recommend against using arguments rooted in biology when one’s understanding / perception of biology is as skewed as the above posts would seem to indicate. > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by samarm_ > **I would say to you: If you want to have sex then go ahead, because you CAN have emotional intimacy at the same time as the physical intimacy. It’s not an either/or thing.** This assumes that one CAN find someone willing to be emotionally and/or physically intimate with oneself. I appear to possess a unique combination of physical characters which renders me utterly unattractive to all members of the opposite sex (regardless what one might hear, personality will only carry one so far…and I have precious little of that, as well). It would seem, then, that I am doomed to virginity, neither by morals nor by choice. ---
**Author:** ![Orual](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orual](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orual)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2003, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-your-virginity-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/150302/95 "2003-01-23T04:35:43Z")
OK, people insult me, say I’m unnatural, and somehow that measnss _I_ am judging _them_? Color me confused. This seems to be a “let’s mock virgins, shall we?” thread, and I’m sorry, I can’t help but feel a bit attacked. **Eonwe** and **samarm** I in no way think that only marriage= emotional intimacy. I’m sorry if what I said came across that way. I have no moral hangups about sex, just haven’t found the right person for me yet (whic happarently makes me aunnatural according to **featherlou** ; her comment was the one that most provoked my ire). If I can find emotional intimcay , I don’t think I’ll wait till marriage to have sex. ---
**Author:** ![Orual](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orual](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orual)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2003, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-your-virginity-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/150302/96 "2003-01-23T04:36:54Z")
wow… there’s a typo fest if ever there was one. Ick. ---
**Author:** ![Pablito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@Pablito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pablito)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2003, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-your-virginity-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/150302/97 "2003-01-23T04:41:35Z")
Is anyone else tired of hearing **Tucker** tell us about how big his dick is? I’m relatively new to the boards and certainly don’t read them daily, but it seems like this is about the third or forth thread (at least a couple of which you’ve started) in which you make it a point to tell us about about how big your dick is. Frankly, this whole thread strikes me as a simple attempt to remind anyone who could have possibly missed it about your claims of having a big dick. As they say, ‘methinks he protestest too much’. I’m guessing you drive the sportiest car you can possibly afford. How about we stop hearing about your massive elephant-sized cock and you share with us instead thoughts you have that exist in that other little head of us? (sorry, you started this in the pit) ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2003, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-your-virginity-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/150302/98 "2003-01-23T04:42:22Z")
As night fell, the Dopers sat in a circle around the fire, arguing about who had the biggest, baddest wang. **Tuckerfan** and **Samarm** talked about the pain they’d inflicted. **Jack Batty** said something about congress. The fire slowly died as others spoke of length and of girth, of flexibility and staying power, of the glorious wonders that lay coiled and quiescent in their underwear, boastful tales of sexual wonder drifting off into the ether. **Furt** lurked silently, slowly stirring the coals with his penis. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2003, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-your-virginity-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/150302/99 "2003-01-23T04:47:35Z")
No problem **arisu** , and sorry if I came across as attacking you at all, I didn’t mean to. I was just attempting to clarify what it was you were saying. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2003, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-your-virginity-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/150302/100 "2003-01-23T04:48:58Z")
I hate the “Rah-Rah Virginity” camp because it has its roots in a tradition where women who were not virgins were worthless. Misogyny much? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-your-virginity-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/150302.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/take-your-virginity-and-shove-it-up-your-ass/150302.md?page=6)