# Taking a break from the Dope

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-a-break-from-the-dope/801306>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 11, 2017, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-a-break-from-the-dope/801306 "2017-11-11T10:19:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-a-break-from-the-dope/801306/21 "2017-11-12T15:29:18Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> As for Trump, the Mods seem happy to permit unfounded accusations and speculation, false quotations, even a death threat.

AFAIK if one makes a threat then he or she will have to deal with the Secret Service. As for Trump and false quotations, There may had been some, but Trump is prolific on making all the world _wish_ that all of them were false.

> **[Opinion | President Trump’s Lies, the Definitive List (Published 2017)](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html)**
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> We have catalogued nearly every outright lie the president has told publicly since taking the oath of office.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-a-break-from-the-dope/801306/22 "2017-11-12T16:06:49Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> AFAIK if one makes a threat then he or she will have to deal with the Secret Service. As for Trump and false quotations, There may had been some, but Trump is prolific on making all the world _wish_ that all of them were false.
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> [Opinion | President Trump’s Lies, the Definitive List - The New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html)

I think that’s missing the point that Quartz is trying to make, I don’t see how Trump’s less than admirable behavior in a similar situation makes it a good idea for others to follow suit. But maybe I’m missing something.

I think it’s a shame another poster is taking a break because they feel that their views will not get proper attention or fair treatment, I think the content of the board suffers in the long run. And then there isn’t enough content. And then I feel like I have to start posting in order to fill the void. And, believe me, _nobody_ wants that.

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**Author:** ![BeenJammin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beenjammin/32/448_2.png) [@BeenJammin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeenJammin)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-a-break-from-the-dope/801306/23 "2017-11-12T16:31:40Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> I’When it comes to politics, the Dope has stopped fighting ignorance and started to promote it.

Any group of people in any endeavor anywhere, anytime the world over always evolves towards supporting and promoting it’s members. Weeding out the non-members or individuals who do not align with the group’s objectives is simply a natural course of events. In this case, that process normally involves banning. But a few dedicated souls hang in there long-term and/or return for more punishment. Just take it at face value for what it is, not that much unlike any other: A message-board with a bunch of weirdos, many with radical political views.

Big flyin’ freakin’ deal. Illegitimi non carborundum.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-a-break-from-the-dope/801306/24 "2017-11-12T17:07:09Z")

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> [@Mr.Nylock](#):
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> I think that’s missing the point that Quartz is trying to make, I don’t see how Trump’s less than admirable behavior in a similar situation makes it a good idea for others to follow suit. But maybe I’m missing something.

What you miss is that the situation is not as usual. A few times of making fake quotes by others pales on what is happening right now with the liar in chief POTUS mouth. And after a year of discussions, I noticed that the examples coming from the left are there all right, but also debunked too in the SDMB.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-a-break-from-the-dope/801306/25 "2017-11-12T19:43:17Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> I’ve been participating for many years now, and it’s time to take a rest. There are many reasons, of course. I have other things to do.

And they are _better_ things. 🙂

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-a-break-from-the-dope/801306/26 "2017-11-12T19:57:47Z")

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> [@GreenWyvern](#):
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> Actually, Trump _lost_ the popular vote by a margin of 2.8 million votes. He is only President because of the outdated and convoluted Electoral College system, _not_ because of the will of the people.

You don’t seem to understand how our Republic works.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-a-break-from-the-dope/801306/27 "2017-11-12T20:13:58Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> I’ve been participating for many years now, and it’s time to take a rest. There are many reasons, of course. I have other things to do. There’s a lot of mud been slung unfairly in my direction recently and I’ve been taking it too seriously and too personally. When it comes to politics, the Dope has stopped fighting ignorance and started to promote it. Dopers seem to feel that democracy is fine as long as the vote goes your way; sorry, but either you respect the results of a free democratic vote or you are a wannabe dictator. As for Trump, the Mods seem happy to permit unfounded accusations and speculation, false quotations, even a death threat. This place should be better than the likes of Free Republic, but isn’t.
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> So I’m taking a break. I’ll be back after Christmas, if only to get my Death Pool list in.

> [@GreenWyvern](#):
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> Actually, Trump _lost_ the popular vote by a margin of 2.8 million votes. He is only President because of the outdated and convoluted Electoral College system, _not_ because of the will of the people.

He’s referring to the Brexit vote, and his “Dopers seem to feel that democracy is fine as long as the vote goes your way; sorry, but either you respect the results of a free democratic vote or you are a wannabe dictator” is a giant strawman he’s built to smear Remainers pointing out the weaknesses in his position. That he has chosen to resurrect this argument in a “here’s my final word, no hitbacks” thread rather than the thread it was already debunked in says quite a lot about how much confidence he has in it.

Nevertheless, sometimes we all need a break from arguing with strangers on the internet. I’ve taken several and they tend to help (although I don’t recall whether I announced any of them in advance), and I applaud anyone choosing to step away from the fray for a spell rather than spiralling down into suicide-by-Mod as so many do.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-a-break-from-the-dope/801306/28 "2017-11-12T20:19:24Z")

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Without an electoral win, the presidential “popular vote” + $5 will get you a cup of coffee at Philz.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-a-break-from-the-dope/801306/29 "2017-11-12T20:26:05Z")

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How **is** the coffee at Philz?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-a-break-from-the-dope/801306/30 "2017-11-12T20:35:22Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> How **is** the coffee at Philz?

Expensive!! 😃

I only went once, and while I admit that the coffee was exceptionally good, it’s not my kind of vibe. It’s a “we’ll do everything for you because we know better” kind of place, and I like to add my own cream to my own taste. When I tried to tell the barista how much room to leave for cream, she told me: “Oh, we add the cream.”

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**Author:** ![PlaceboTarget](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/placebotarget/32/1073_2.png) [@PlaceboTarget](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlaceboTarget)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2017, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-a-break-from-the-dope/801306/31 "2017-11-12T20:37:41Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> So I’m taking a break.

I regularly take a break when I stay away from any kind of media and get creative.

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**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-a-break-from-the-dope/801306/32 "2017-11-13T01:18:24Z")

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Happy Holidays!

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-a-break-from-the-dope/801306/33 "2017-11-13T02:13:28Z")

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Ding dong the witch is dead (mostly and politically speaking…though actually wouldn’t keep me up at night).

Enjoy the respite Quartz…from the left’s lite version of Fox.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-a-break-from-the-dope/801306/34 "2017-11-13T02:15:53Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> But you had to choose to make a swipe at everyone. .

yeah…:dubious:

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**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-a-break-from-the-dope/801306/35 "2017-11-13T06:21:49Z")

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Sometimes when I have to go to the bathroom I just hold it in until I don’t have the urge to go any more.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-a-break-from-the-dope/801306/36 "2017-11-13T07:11:51Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> I don’t know if it’s the willful promotion of ignorance. I think some folks fail to realize that there are lots of liberal media sources spreading false information just as badly as Fox does.

It’s not liberal media sources the OP gets [his particular brand of misinformation](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=841218) from, so he’d be a fine one to complain about “willful [sic] promotion of ignorance”.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-a-break-from-the-dope/801306/37 "2017-11-13T15:46:30Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> I’ve been participating for many years now, and it’s time to take a rest. …
> 
> … So I’m taking a break. I’ll be back after Christmas, if only to get my Death Pool list in.

So why exactly did you feel the need to announce it?

Worried that we might worry about you? (And there have been some posters with health issues who suddenly stopped posting that I have assumed had … events occur.)

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-a-break-from-the-dope/801306/38 "2017-11-13T15:53:46Z")

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Enjoy your break, and come back with pie.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-a-break-from-the-dope/801306/39 "2017-11-14T20:57:19Z")

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What do a Timex watch and an elephant have in common?

They come in quartz.

Sorry, that was the first thing I thought when I saw this thread.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2017, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-a-break-from-the-dope/801306/40 "2017-11-15T21:31:22Z")

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> [@Covfefe](#):
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> A death threat when? Did you report it?

I concur. If there’s been a threat of any kind, that’s serious business.

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