# Taking Umbrage at the Homage to Fromage **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 8, 2004, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-umbrage-at-the-homage-to-fromage/228175 "2004-02-08T20:45:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![earthpuppy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8c91f0/32.png) [@earthpuppy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/earthpuppy)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2004, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-umbrage-at-the-homage-to-fromage/228175/21 "2004-02-10T23:46:51Z")
so is it bedroom **sewt** or bedroom **sweet**? ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-umbrage-at-the-homage-to-fromage/228175/22 "2004-02-11T00:25:26Z")
A bedroom sweet. ---
**Author:** ![Ex\_Machina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Ex\_Machina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ex_Machina)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-umbrage-at-the-homage-to-fromage/228175/23 "2004-02-11T16:07:38Z")
> [@OpalCat](#): > > A bedroom sweet. Is that the thing they leave on your pillow? I say CULL-duh-sac How about **verisimilitude**? English teachers probably have no fear of this word, but I stub my tongue on every syllable. Victuals was a good example of a word that many people wouldn’t even recognize in print. Jed Clampett: “Well doggy Granny! These possum innards are good victuals.” Here’s another one for \*\*french frog \*\* to help us with: **liaison** ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-umbrage-at-the-homage-to-fromage/228175/24 "2004-02-11T16:59:28Z")
> [@Steve Wright](#): > > I’ve never quibbled > If it was ribald, > I would devour while others merely nibbled. > > - Tom Lehrer, “Smut”. (slight hijack) I hear that line _every_ time I see the word “ribald”, including the original post about it in this thread. 🙂 (end hijack) ---
**Author:** ![french\_frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c77e96/32.png) [@french\_frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/french_frog)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2004, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-umbrage-at-the-homage-to-fromage/228175/25 "2004-02-17T14:09:46Z")
> [@Ex Machina](#): > > I say CULL-duh-sac Cu d’ sac : French unprononciable U, no L. The ‘e’ of “de” is usually pronounced as ‘je’, even not pronounced at all: ‘cudsac’. Btw, cul is a bad word, means butt, and is not to be used besides this word 🙂 Liaison : Lee - ay - zon (without saying the ‘n’, like…heuuuu… like King Kong without the ‘g’) in a streamlined way (leeayzon) - **Chefguy** , segue is a funny word for me because in the South French Provencal dialect it means to masturbate \* > [@](#): > > \*\*[Dictionary.com](http://Dictionary.com) \*\* > Segue: To move smoothly and unhesitatingly from one state, condition, … to another 😃 How do you say Non-pareil? (the little candy) As for cheese try a [French canadian thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=4542801#post4542801) ---
**Author:** ![Ex\_Machina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Ex\_Machina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ex_Machina)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2004, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-umbrage-at-the-homage-to-fromage/228175/26 "2004-02-17T20:59:30Z")
> [@french frog](#): > > How do you say Non-pareil? (the little candy) NON-puh-RELL How do you say **formidable**? ---
**Author:** ![cowgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@cowgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cowgirl)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2004, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-umbrage-at-the-homage-to-fromage/228175/27 "2004-02-17T21:18:13Z")
Comfortable: this came up in my English teacher course in England. I had to repeat “KOMF-tra-bull” for my fascinated classmates and teacher. Apparently Cambridge would have us saying “KOM-furt-uh-ble” all the time. Anglicized French words: man, that must be hard on your ears, **french frog** and other francophones ! “Roncesvalles” is my favourite, it’s a street in Toronto that we pronounce “RONCE-ess-vayles” - and Agincourt, a suburb that’s pronounced “AY-gin-court”, is a close second. Despicable: my mom has always insisted it’s pronounced DES-pick-a-bul, contrary to popular wisdom. (But she was right about the onomatopea thing, and other obscure grammar and punctuation points, so I believe her.) A friend always has trouble with “midwifery” (the subject another friend is studying, so it comes up sometimes). Great thread title ! ---
**Author:** ![Macie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@Macie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Macie)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2004, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-umbrage-at-the-homage-to-fromage/228175/28 "2004-02-18T00:07:09Z")
> [@Ex Machina](#): > > NON-puh-RELL > > How do you say **formidable**? I say FORM and then mumble the rest, like FORM-mdd-dbll ---
**Author:** ![deb2world](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@deb2world](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deb2world)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2004, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-umbrage-at-the-homage-to-fromage/228175/29 "2004-02-18T00:37:59Z")
I have started a poll which of course has totally confused my friends about the way they themselves pronounce “caramel”. Some say **car-mel** while myself say **kar-a’-mel**. Try it with your friends it is fun. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taking-umbrage-at-the-homage-to-fromage/228175.md?page=1)