# Taliban Stupid and Just Don't Care? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 9, 2012, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taliban-stupid-and-just-dont-care/627715 "2012-07-09T18:25:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![al27052](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/41988e/32.png) [@al27052](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/al27052)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taliban-stupid-and-just-dont-care/627715/81 "2012-07-16T05:24:27Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > And Bush did a lot more harm than Osama bin Laden. Possibly, yes. Do you think bin Laden would have done more harm than Bush did, if he had the same resources to work with? If you say anything other than some variation of “bin Laden would have probably killed billions of people if he had that much military might at his disposal” then I’m going to have to question your sanity. Bush did some fucked-up stuff, yes. I feel he and Cheney should be indicted for war crimes for Iraq. However, they are just an ignorant fool and a war profiteer, respectively. bin Laden, OTOH, was undoubtedly the most dangerous terrorist ever. Giving him control over a nuclear arsenal… ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taliban-stupid-and-just-dont-care/627715/82 "2012-07-16T06:01:32Z")
> [@al27052](#): > > Possibly, yes. Do you think bin Laden would have done more harm than Bush did, if he had the same resources to work with? > > If you say anything other than some variation of “bin Laden would have probably killed billions of people if he had that much military might at his disposal” then I’m going to have to question your sanity. > > Bush did some fucked-up stuff, yes. I feel he and Cheney should be indicted for war crimes for Iraq. However, they are just an ignorant fool and a war profiteer, respectively. > > bin Laden, OTOH, was undoubtedly the most dangerous terrorist ever. Giving him control over a nuclear arsenal… All that is irrelevant to my argument, however. ---
**Author:** ![al27052](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/41988e/32.png) [@al27052](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/al27052)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taliban-stupid-and-just-dont-care/627715/83 "2012-07-16T06:13:49Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > All that is irrelevant to my argument, however. Well, you were stating that you see equivalence between Bush and bin Laden. I do not. One is a fool. He managed to avoid nuking anyone, though. The other would have nuked Israel about 10 seconds after he got the opportunity. He also might well have nuked several US cities if given the chance. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taliban-stupid-and-just-dont-care/627715/84 "2012-07-16T07:26:31Z")
> [@al27052](#): > > Well, you were stating that you see equivalence between Bush and bin Laden. I was making the point that most Americans would be angry if a fraud had helped conspire to kill Bush, just as Pakistanis are angry that a fraud conspired to help kill bin Laden, despite both being scum. And any moral difference is going to be outweighed by the fact that Bush did far more damage to America than bin Laden did to Pakistan. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taliban-stupid-and-just-dont-care/627715/85 "2012-07-16T12:50:10Z")
_Inigo’s Law_: “Anything you can think of already eists on the internet, and someone’s likely making money off it.” > [@Larry\_Mudd](#): > > - Taliban stupid and just don’t care, hey! > Daylight come and me wan go home.\* [Taliban](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqFSXcrPdyw). Kind of a fun little time-capsule. ---
**Author:** ![al27052](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/41988e/32.png) [@al27052](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/al27052)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taliban-stupid-and-just-dont-care/627715/86 "2012-07-16T16:27:53Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > I was making the point that most Americans would be angry if a fraud had helped conspire to kill Bush, just as Pakistanis are angry that a fraud conspired to help kill bin Laden, despite both being scum. And any moral difference is going to be outweighed by the fact that Bush did far more damage to America than bin Laden did to Pakistan. I think it’s absolutely ridiculous that Bush was the president for 8 years. I however, do _not_ think he is equivalent to someone who seriously considered setting off a dirty atomic bomb over New York City. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taliban-stupid-and-just-dont-care/627715/87 "2012-07-16T22:53:34Z")
> [@al27052](#): > > I think it’s absolutely ridiculous that Bush was the president for 8 years. I however, do _not_ think he is equivalent to someone who seriously considered setting off a dirty atomic bomb over New York City. Yep. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taliban-stupid-and-just-dont-care/627715/88 "2012-07-16T23:17:32Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Yep. That is, I agree with you, Sir. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taliban-stupid-and-just-dont-care/627715/89 "2012-07-16T23:52:42Z")
> [@al27052](#): > > I think it’s absolutely ridiculous that Bush was the president for 8 years. I however, do _not_ think he is equivalent to someone who seriously considered setting off a dirty atomic bomb over New York City. No, he’s someone who devastated an entire country. And [“dirty bombs”](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_bomb) aren’t “atomic bombs”, nor are they especially dangerous. 9-11 killed far more people than a dirty bomb would. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/taliban-stupid-and-just-dont-care/627715.md?page=4)