# Talk me out of moving to Los Angeles

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talk-me-out-of-moving-to-los-angeles/607880>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [December 30, 2011, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talk-me-out-of-moving-to-los-angeles/607880 "2011-12-30T22:15:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2011, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talk-me-out-of-moving-to-los-angeles/607880/21 "2011-12-30T23:38:00Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> Southern California is a smoggy toilet. And the traffic will make you want to commit suicide. The beaches are awesome, but the rest of it is the worst.
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> Instead, come live in the SF Bay Area. It is so much better than L.A. it’s not even fair.

I wouldn’t live anywhere else.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2011, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talk-me-out-of-moving-to-los-angeles/607880/22 "2011-12-30T23:40:54Z")

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Come on down! We’ll even stage a Dopefest for you!

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2011, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talk-me-out-of-moving-to-los-angeles/607880/23 "2011-12-30T23:42:50Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> I grew up in WLA and I hate it there. If it weren’t for family, Tito’s Tacos and seeing a few concerts there a year, I would never go back. Santa Barbara is much more my style.

I love Santa Barbara. I just left and I’d miss it if I didn’t love where I moved to.

But yeah, I hate LA. I got a really nice package to go to UCLA and I turned it down, and I’m glad I did. I don’t know how anyone lives with that traffic. Las Vegas traffic isn’t nearly as bad as LA traffic.

Last time I was there we went from the Getty to LAX and it took the person we were picking up less time to board and land from Las Vegas.

I’m sure people really do get used to the traffic. That’s because they die inside.

I’d much rather live on the Central Coast. From Santa Barbara up until Monterrey.

I live near Sacramento and I love it here.

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**Author:** ![slm2955](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c6cbf5/32.png) [@slm2955](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slm2955)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2011, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talk-me-out-of-moving-to-los-angeles/607880/24 "2011-12-30T23:50:10Z")

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Yes, you should move out there cause I’m moving out there:D.

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**Author:** ![Pyper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Pyper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pyper)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talk-me-out-of-moving-to-los-angeles/607880/25 "2011-12-31T03:26:43Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Most of LA is regular folks. It’s when you get into WLA, Hollywood, Silverlake, Los Feliz that you get into the heart of Doucheland. We should also find some way to get rid of the Valley. I know, I know, that’s where they make porn. Deal with it. German porn is a fine substitute.

Yeah, I used to date a guy who lived in Silverlake. I was like, “My God, it’s full of hipsters!”

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talk-me-out-of-moving-to-los-angeles/607880/26 "2011-12-31T03:54:25Z")

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Based on your description, I don’t see anything in the “pro” column. Why are you even considering moving there?

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talk-me-out-of-moving-to-los-angeles/607880/27 "2011-12-31T03:56:26Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Shitcago.
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> You know, traffic in LA is just absolutely terrible, but it’s not like the traffic is any _good_ where I am now.

I live in Chicago and love it. The only time I encounter traffic is when I have to travel via bus rather than the L. Apparently my wife and I live in a fantasy Chicago where we get anywhere we need, at any time, for a total cost of $23 a week. Fuck LA and it’s fucking car culture. I’ve visited friends out there and been in a traffic jam and was astounded that people weren’t reenacting the movie _Falling Down_ every single day.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talk-me-out-of-moving-to-los-angeles/607880/28 "2011-12-31T04:03:00Z")

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Its warm. Fuck yeah!

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talk-me-out-of-moving-to-los-angeles/607880/29 "2011-12-31T04:16:43Z")

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The 405  
The DMV

I think I’ve made my case.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talk-me-out-of-moving-to-los-angeles/607880/30 "2011-12-31T04:20:58Z")

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If I could move somewhere fucking warm I’d fucking do it fucking now.

It’s minus a million fucking degrees here.

Move.  
Fuck!

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**Author:** ![florez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9e5f3/32.png) [@florez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/florez)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talk-me-out-of-moving-to-los-angeles/607880/31 "2011-12-31T04:22:47Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> The 405  
> The DMV
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> I think I’ve made my case.

Oh yeah, dear lord, now I remember why I shall never be nostalgic about L.A. again.  
Thanks for sharing!

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talk-me-out-of-moving-to-los-angeles/607880/32 "2011-12-31T04:32:56Z")

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I don’t know what you do for a living **MeanOldLady** , but Las Vegas is sunny and (mostly) warm, housing is getting cheaper by the day, and there’s tons of cool stuff to do both within the valley and within an 8 hour drive. Heck, you could even visit your family with just a 3-5 hour drive, depending on where exactly they are.

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talk-me-out-of-moving-to-los-angeles/607880/33 "2011-12-31T04:45:50Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I don’t know what you do for a living **MeanOldLady** , but Las Vegas is sunny and (mostly) warm, housing is getting cheaper by the day, and there’s tons of cool stuff to do both within the valley and within an 8 hour drive. Heck, you could even visit your family with just a 3-5 hour drive, depending on where exactly they are.

Ugh. I hated living in Las Vegas. It’s just plain dirty.

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**Author:** ![slm2955](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c6cbf5/32.png) [@slm2955](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slm2955)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talk-me-out-of-moving-to-los-angeles/607880/34 "2011-12-31T04:48:58Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> Ugh. I hated living in Las Vegas. **It’s just plain dirty**.

what makes you say that?

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talk-me-out-of-moving-to-los-angeles/607880/35 "2011-12-31T04:52:02Z")

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> [@slm2955](#):
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> what makes you say that?

Everywhere I lived there was tagging. The nightly news was always on about another murder or so. Can’t go walking anywhere: lack of sidewalks, etc. You wanted to go bowling or to a movie chances are you had to go to a casino.

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**Author:** ![VOW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vow/32/3043_2.png) [@VOW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VOW)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talk-me-out-of-moving-to-los-angeles/607880/36 "2011-12-31T05:59:59Z")

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Yeah, the 405 is a nightmare, but damn, I-5 has been bumper to bumper, 24 hours a day, ever since I was in college in the Seventies!  
~VOW

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**Author:** ![pricciar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@pricciar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pricciar)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talk-me-out-of-moving-to-los-angeles/607880/37 "2011-12-31T06:16:54Z")

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Moving is a huge pain in the ass. You need to stay in a place for at least 2 years to make the last move worth it. And, by then you’ll be married with 3 or 4 kids. Stuck in Chicago forever. Happily.

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talk-me-out-of-moving-to-los-angeles/607880/38 "2011-12-31T09:44:11Z")

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If I were you, I would jump at the opportunity, but that’s because A) it’s not the Midwest, and B) I’d be moving \*away \*from my family.

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talk-me-out-of-moving-to-los-angeles/607880/39 "2011-12-31T09:53:58Z")

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Clearly, New York is the answer.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talk-me-out-of-moving-to-los-angeles/607880/40 "2011-12-31T11:14:59Z")

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Baby, please don’t go  
Baby, please don’t go  
Baby, please don’t go  
Down to Los Angeles  
You know I love you so  
Baby, please don’t go.

Alright

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