# Talking about code-switching is now considered trolling?

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**Created:** [July 29, 2019, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-code-switching-is-now-considered-trolling/837798 "2019-07-29T05:45:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-code-switching-is-now-considered-trolling/837798/41 "2019-07-30T19:06:18Z")

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Stirring the pot with nothing genuine behind it. Attacking people in clearly meanspirited ways. He looks to me like an obliviously cheerful redneck who hopes to shoot the breeze with others in a good-natured manner. The opposite of trolling.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-code-switching-is-now-considered-trolling/837798/42 "2019-07-30T20:00:48Z")

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The post that made his trolling obvious to me is this one:

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> No, no, you stay, I’ll go. Senses of humor are few and far between on this board, anyway. So much anger.

This is just too obviously calculated to piss off the person accusing you of trolling. Combined with the poster’s previous history of trolling, there is no reason to give them a benefit of the doubt after that remark.

When people think you’re trolling, snide remarks are not the way to convince people otherwise.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-code-switching-is-now-considered-trolling/837798/43 "2019-07-30T20:22:15Z")

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Funny how you quoted him in a way that doesn’t allow me to see the context. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-code-switching-is-now-considered-trolling/837798/44 "2019-07-30T20:50:00Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> It’s like, you have a dinner party and one of the guests takes a dump on the living room floor. You’re like, what the hell man? They go, there’s no rule against it! So you clean it up, and then put up a sign with the rules - no shitting on the floor. They say fine. Then proceed to take a dump on the sofa. Geez man, can you like, not shit on the furniture? They go, there’s no rule against it! So you say fine, I guess that’s accurate. So you add to the list of rules, no shitting on the furniture, no shitting anywhere in the house. Or the yard. Then they protest, saying, well…hey, what about in the toilet? Okay yeah, the toilet is fine, obviously, but if you need it spelled out, then yes the toilet is okay. Then they proceed to drop an upper decker. Banned from the house. And the guests complained he was just following the rules - said no one ever.
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> Stuntman Mike took too many shits that we were tired of cleaning up. And his shits were all trolling.

I think it’s more like he forgot to flush. Yeah, it’s careless and gross. Do it enough times, people might even think it’s deliberate. Worth a banning? Hey, your house your rules.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-code-switching-is-now-considered-trolling/837798/45 "2019-07-30T20:54:48Z")

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> [@Folly](#):
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> He ‘stretched the truth’ by calling both gals smart.

That’s much better?

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-code-switching-is-now-considered-trolling/837798/46 "2019-07-30T21:04:15Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> That’s much better?

It makes it a bad joke or a distasteful joke rather than an admission of trolling, so in that sense yes?

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-code-switching-is-now-considered-trolling/837798/47 "2019-07-30T21:07:46Z")

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> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#):
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> I think it’s more like he forgot to flush. Yeah, it’s careless and gross. Do it enough times, people might even think it’s deliberate. Worth a banning? Hey, your house your rules.

Flushing an upper decker ain’t as easy as it seems. I’d imagine.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-code-switching-is-now-considered-trolling/837798/48 "2019-07-30T21:36:48Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Because you are not that sort of person. Good! Neither am I. Still doesn’t make him a troll.

> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Then what would?

> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Stirring the pot with nothing genuine behind it…

[Which is not how this place works.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12612283#post12612283)

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-code-switching-is-now-considered-trolling/837798/49 "2019-07-30T23:01:53Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Because you are not that sort of person. Good! Neither am I. Still doesn’t make him a troll.

It doesn’t really matter what you want to call it, whether trolling or being a jerk. He’s still not the kind of poster we want around here.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-code-switching-is-now-considered-trolling/837798/50 "2019-07-31T00:25:06Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Stirring the pot with nothing genuine behind it. Attacking people in clearly meanspirited ways. He looks to me like an obliviously cheerful redneck who hopes to shoot the breeze with others in a good-natured manner.

If [this](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21325245&postcount=9) (previously linked to in this very thread) is your definition of “obliviously cheerful” and “good-natured,” then perhaps that says something about the both of you.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-code-switching-is-now-considered-trolling/837798/51 "2019-07-31T00:55:52Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> I would bet a lot of money that the thread you referred to was 100% sincere. He’s just kind of a redneck tool, as he has pretty much openly admitted…

Hook, line and sinker. You’re making it far too easy.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-code-switching-is-now-considered-trolling/837798/52 "2019-07-31T00:56:34Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> If [this](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21325245&postcount=9) (previously linked to in this very thread) is your definition of “obliviously cheerful” and “good-natured,” then perhaps that says something about the both of you.

What he did was heinous. He is not a good person. But yes, he was cheerful about it and didn’t seem to expect posters to dislike it.

Colibri wants him out of here because of that first “not a good person” part. Okay, but acknowledge that this is what you are doing and don’t use this disingenuous “trolling” cover.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-code-switching-is-now-considered-trolling/837798/53 "2019-07-31T01:15:08Z")

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Why is it so hard for you to accept that he was trolling?

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-code-switching-is-now-considered-trolling/837798/54 "2019-07-31T01:42:12Z")

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Uhhh…I think I covered that. Reread my posts upthread. Words have meanings, and “sincere person I dislike” != “troll”.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-code-switching-is-now-considered-trolling/837798/55 "2019-07-31T02:13:44Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Uhhh…I think I covered that. Reread my posts upthread. Words have meanings, and “sincere person I dislike” != “troll”.

He was trolling. If you’d like to cling to a different definition, you are welcome to. Yours is not the definition we use. I’m kind of an authority on this.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-code-switching-is-now-considered-trolling/837798/56 "2019-07-31T02:20:10Z")

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Per Wikipedia:

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> In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses[2] and normalizing tangential discussion,[3] whether for the troll’s amusement or a specific gain.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-code-switching-is-now-considered-trolling/837798/57 "2019-07-31T02:31:49Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> But yes, he was cheerful about it and didn’t seem to expect posters to dislike it.

Seriously?

> [@Weird kids and funny events you remember from school](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-kids-and-funny-events-you-remember-from-school/824572/9):
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> By the way, it’s not lost on me that some of you will find that yarn to have been mean, and that’s okay, it was mean. :rolleyes: But others will think it was also funny as fuck. It’s for the latter group’s entertainment that I shared the memory. 😉

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-code-switching-is-now-considered-trolling/837798/58 "2019-07-31T02:51:21Z")

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In [a post I mentioned earlier](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21325054&postcount=5), it sure sounds like he is aquanted with being banned from boards.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-code-switching-is-now-considered-trolling/837798/59 "2019-07-31T02:58:27Z")

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Sure, because decent people won’t like him. That’s not “trolling”.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-code-switching-is-now-considered-trolling/837798/60 "2019-07-31T03:03:44Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> Sure, because decent people won’t like him. That’s not “trolling”.

Two posts ago you were positing that he’s a cheerful guy who doesn’t understand that people won’t like his posts.

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