# Talking About Mental Health

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-mental-health/946178>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 10, 2021, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-mental-health/946178 "2021-07-10T20:23:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-mental-health/946178/21 "2021-07-11T18:08:57Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> The OP is crying about it weeks later, so it was obviously effective.

Not crying silly badger. Your attempt to shame me with mental health is wrong and I should not let my silence about that give credence to the idea that mental health is shameful. People on this board and elsewhere should discuss mental health. It should be normalized to do so.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-mental-health/946178/22 "2021-07-11T18:10:49Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> So in threads where people are allowed to lie about me and troll me and I’m the only one who get noted, the result is I just don’t have to worry about that thread anymore, it disappears from my display.

How nice for you. And thanks for explaining how muting a thread works; I’m sure none of us had any idea. But from what I’m seeing, with multiple mods being terribly unfair to you and all the rest of us lying about you, you’re going to have a lot of muting to do. It must really suck being treated so unfairly by practically everyone.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-mental-health/946178/23 "2021-07-11T18:16:27Z")

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I’m going to assume some % of people had no idea. We’ve been on Discourse over a year, I’ve read thousands of threads in that time and only muted one of them. So yes, the behavior was not as anticipated as no other forum software I use really has a feature like that. I would be surprised if a majority of posters know about it.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-mental-health/946178/24 "2021-07-11T18:32:53Z")

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Well, some posters – say, for instance, this poster, the one you recently characterized as “a major impediment to good computing generally and a blight on the world of software” – managed to figure out most of the basic Discourse features (including the trivially obvious thread muting function) within a few days of the cutover. Others – say, for instance, certain dumbasses as apparently devoid of software competency as they are of basic civility – appear to have taken over a year to figure it out.

tl;dr: Never assume everyone else is as stupid as you are. And that also applies to maintaining and securing operating systems.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-mental-health/946178/25 "2021-07-11T18:35:27Z")

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I mean if you want to compare “using a long abandoned by its creator Operating System that has known major vulnerabilities” to “never using a feature you never previously needed”, then sure. Or if you want to call someone stupid for “not knowing how features work they’ve never previously needed to use”, then sure, I guess I’m stupid. I don’t know how the voice control software on my TV works either, I do know that it has the feature, but I generally prefer to use the normal GUI so have never even turned the voice activation on. I am sure that every software you use, you fully explore every single feature immediately so you are never at risk of being called stupid for not knowing how a feature you may go years without needing works.

Let me cut to the chase–you’re a fucking idiot putz.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-mental-health/946178/26 "2021-07-11T20:41:28Z")

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If you’re in a boxing ring, it’s reasonable to throw punches if someone’s throwing punches at you, but low blows are low blows. You could have thrown shit back at her without going there.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-mental-health/946178/27 "2021-07-11T21:49:06Z")

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He pulls a knife, you pull a gun.  
He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue.  
That’s the ~~Chicago~~ Martin\_Hyde way!

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-mental-health/946178/28 "2021-07-11T21:57:28Z")

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I spit my beer on my keyboard. Nice one.

p.s. You owe me a computer mother fucker

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-mental-health/946178/29 "2021-07-12T20:24:21Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> But since I don’t plan to participate in threads in which he exercises moderation over me it is mostly irrelevant.

Wait, isn’t this thread in the pit? _checks_ Ah, yes it is. Was it moved?

You were out of line by the way. That post was a dumbass move.

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-mental-health/946178/30 "2021-07-13T03:30:09Z")

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Dude, Miller was defending you in that thread against all the people misrepresenting you. He is not the enemy. He only noted you once you went completely off the rails with your indefensible attack on Sunny Daze. What you should be doing here is thanking Miller for letting you off easy with just a Warning.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-mental-health/946178/31 "2021-07-13T16:23:13Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> While mental health is nothing to be ashamed of, I am 100% justified in pointing out a poster’s demonstrated and admitted mental health problems to undermine their credibility in attacks made against me.

[Moderating]  
Actually, no. There’s a difference between attacking someone for their opinions, and attacking someone for their health problems, especially when the health problem was brought up in an unrelated, non-Pit context.

This distinction will be reflected in moderation.

This isn’t a warning or a mod note, just clarifying what is and is not allowed in the Pit.  
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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-mental-health/946178/32 "2021-07-13T16:29:40Z")

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I see a lot of people have been trying to communicate with me in this forum (I guess Miller’s message showed as a notification because he’s a mod, but I have the entire pit muted now), as per this post I no longer participate in the Pit, just as an FYI to people who were trying to alert me in this thread.

> [@Should "They Were Asking For It"-style rape denial be a moddable offence?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/should-they-were-asking-for-it-style-rape-denial-be-a-moddable-offence/946068/128):
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> Coming to the thread late but I just read this post and honestly agree with it 100%, I think just avoiding the Pit is the right track. The way it is ran is truly Orwellian, and I think you have the exact right idea to just stay out of it. FWIW I don’t much think the pit adds anything to this forum, and I’d have just banned someone for attacking a rape victim if I was running a message board.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/talking-about-mental-health/946178/33 "2021-07-13T17:11:39Z")

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