# "Tanned ... darker than our president" - perfectly OK?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tanned-darker-than-our-president-perfectly-ok/520472>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 8, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tanned-darker-than-our-president-perfectly-ok/520472 "2009-12-08T17:58:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tanned-darker-than-our-president-perfectly-ok/520472/161 "2009-12-09T22:44:47Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Prediction: **you with the face** will never, ever link to that specific post by **Shodan** …

A cursory search of **Shodan’s** posts confirms this, but, \*daayumm, \*that boy is obsessed with white on black rape.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tanned-darker-than-our-president-perfectly-ok/520472/162 "2009-12-09T22:46:48Z")

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I suspect, as well, there is a difference in the likelihood of a black woman \*reporting \*a rape by a white man.

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tanned-darker-than-our-president-perfectly-ok/520472/163 "2009-12-09T22:53:49Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Prediction: **you with the face** will never, ever link to that specific post by **Shodan** , and yet will never ever admit she was wrong.

What is it that you want me to admit? That **Shodan** believes I want black women to be raped by white men, but he didn’t necessarily mean _I_ want to be raped?

Let’s see, I can concede this, no problem. But the curious thing is that it matters not one whit. The last time I checked, I am black, and so is my mother, my sisters, my cousins, and a lot of my friends. So if you’re trying to sell me on the notion that its substantially better that he thinks I’m a-hankering for a whole bunch of _other_ black women to be raped, but not myself, in order to win some lameass argument about the credibility of a rape allegation…well, you just might want to take that trash somewhere else.

He agreed with the guy who did say it, and that’s enough for me.

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tanned-darker-than-our-president-perfectly-ok/520472/164 "2009-12-09T22:58:19Z")

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> [@MsWhatsit](#):
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> Actually, in the thread being referenced, **Huerta88** was the first to say that he felt that **you with the face** would be happier if white-on-black rape were more common, and then later on in the thread, **Shodan** said that based on **you with the face** ’s subsequent posts, he was inclined to agree with **Huerta88** on this topic. [

Problem was that his reasoning for how he reached that conclusion from my “subsequent posts” makes zero sense. I attempted to engage him on a rational basis and that is what I got in response.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tanned-darker-than-our-president-perfectly-ok/520472/165 "2009-12-09T22:59:11Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Prediction: **you with the face** will never, ever link to that specific post by **Shodan** , and yet will never ever admit she was wrong.

Now, now - be fair - just because it never happened in the past is no reason to conclude that it won’t happen now.

😉

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tanned-darker-than-our-president-perfectly-ok/520472/166 "2009-12-09T23:00:09Z")

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> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#):
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> He agreed with the guy who did say it, and that’s enough for me.

And you were too fucking lazy to find the post and link to it.

Did you somehow forget where your posting and not realize that people aren’t going to take assertions like you made at face value?

Apparently so.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tanned-darker-than-our-president-perfectly-ok/520472/167 "2009-12-09T23:10:53Z")

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> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#):
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> Problem was that his reasoning for how he reached that conclusion from my “subsequent posts” makes zero sense. I attempted to engage him on a rational basis and that is what I got in response.

Oh, I wasn’t trying to say it made sense. I was just providing the requested cite and a brief summary. I thought that post by **Shodan** was beyond obnoxious and well into completely hateful territory, and the fact that he is now brushing it off with a little ha-ha 😉 smiley about how funny it is that **you with the face** will never admit that her cite doesn’t exist (when I just provided it a couple of posts up), is even more obnoxious. But that is what I expect from **Shodan** , so, whatever.

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tanned-darker-than-our-president-perfectly-ok/520472/168 "2009-12-09T23:10:58Z")

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**tacoloco** , I don’t know if you are retarded or just illiterate or both. But I’ve posted a link to the post already, in addition to a link to the page of the thread in which the whole exchange took place.

Here it is again [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7431746&postcount=833](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7431746&postcount=833), plus another [one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7431746&postcount=830).

I predict that you’ll return to whine about me not posting enough evidence blah blah, but short of going to your house and reading the words out loud to you, there’s nothing else I can do for you.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tanned-darker-than-our-president-perfectly-ok/520472/169 "2009-12-09T23:15:40Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I suspect, as well, there is a difference in the likelihood of a black woman \*reporting \*a rape by a white man.

Yeah, I wonder why a black woman would be loath to report being raped by a white man. It’s not like someone’s going to call her a “lying whore” just for reporting something statistically rare…oh…wait.

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**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tanned-darker-than-our-president-perfectly-ok/520472/170 "2009-12-09T23:26:23Z")

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> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#):
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> **tacoloco** , I don’t know if you are retarded or just illiterate or both. But I’ve posted a link to the post already, in addition to a link to the page of the thread in which the whole exchange took place.

I stand corrected. I still think you’re a whiny asshole, though.

You dragged out a 3 year old post to continue to bitch about that mean old Shodan.

It would be funny, if it weren’t so pathetic.

What cracks me up even more is I don’t even like Shodan or his political views. I just don’t like jackasses like Dinsdale threadshitting in posts like Shodan’s Son thread.

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tanned-darker-than-our-president-perfectly-ok/520472/171 "2009-12-09T23:36:05Z")

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> [@tacoloco](#):
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> What cracks me up even more is I don’t even like Shodan or his political views. I just don’t like jackasses like Dinsdale threadshitting in posts like Shodan’s Son thread.

The irony is that you’ve been threadshitting in _this_ thread to complain about **Dinsdale’s** threadshitting. Other than nipping at my ankles and looking retarded in the process, your sole contribution to this thread has been been nothing but that.

But keep on with the keep on.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tanned-darker-than-our-president-perfectly-ok/520472/172 "2009-12-09T23:40:59Z")

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This thread is pretty much designed to be shit on. \*\*Shodan’\*\*s thread turned into a witchhunt based on nothing.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tanned-darker-than-our-president-perfectly-ok/520472/173 "2009-12-09T23:59:53Z")

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When is the Swedish Bikini Team dropping in ?

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**Author:** ![toodlepip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/97f17d/32.png) [@toodlepip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toodlepip)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tanned-darker-than-our-president-perfectly-ok/520472/174 "2009-12-10T00:42:49Z")

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OK, let’s see:

Someone get a colour chart, the Obama comparison issue should be easily settled.

Shodan, well done on the whole son-coming-home-thing, now get him some SPF for Christmas, or you’ll be buying him anti-wrinkle cream next year.

No raping, period.

And billfish, it’s nighttime in Sweden, and (need I point out) winter, temp around freezing, so no bikini team.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tanned-darker-than-our-president-perfectly-ok/520472/175 "2009-12-10T00:58:54Z")

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The latter part of this thread is like one of those Golden Girls episodes where they reminisce about the past. All we need is the cheesecake.

Lying whore trainwreck thread. Good times, good times.

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**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tanned-darker-than-our-president-perfectly-ok/520472/176 "2009-12-10T01:12:29Z")

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> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#):
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> The irony is that you’ve been threadshitting in _this_ thread to complain about **Dinsdale’s** threadshitting. Other than nipping at my ankles and looking retarded in the process, your sole contribution to this thread has been been nothing but that.
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> But keep on with the keep on.

How does one ‘threadshit’ in a Pit thread, exactly? Please exclude as your definition tacoloco’s posts and instead give a generic one.

And in terms of Pit Thread Performance, you’ve put in one of the sorriest showings I’ve seen in a long time.

As to the OP, on the scale of dickmuffinry, I’d rate Shodan a 3 or 4 (past history aside which I know little about) while Dinsdale was a 5 or 6.

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**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tanned-darker-than-our-president-perfectly-ok/520472/177 "2009-12-10T09:56:30Z")

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> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#):
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> **tacoloco** , I don’t know if you are retarded or just illiterate or both. But I’ve posted a link to the post already, in addition to a link to the page of the thread in which the whole exchange took place.
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> Here it is again [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7431746&postcount=833](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7431746&postcount=833), plus another [one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7431746&postcount=830).
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> I predict that you’ll return to whine about me not posting enough evidence blah blah, but short of going to your house and reading the words out loud to you, there’s nothing else I can do for you.

I don’t want to read through the whole thread but in the linked post he said he was discounting the assertion that you were disappointed that white-on-black rape was rare.

Why not choose a post that backs up your argument rather than his?

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**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tanned-darker-than-our-president-perfectly-ok/520472/178 "2009-12-10T14:44:13Z")

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> [@tacoloco](#):
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> Let’s see the actual post where Shodan does that.
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> This whole thing is weak. You the face isn’t willing to do the homework. It’s bullshit.

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7432291&postcount=833](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7432291&postcount=833)

He is replying that the gallery agrees with Huerta’s assertion. YWTF’s comment about the gallery remaining silent was _because of Huerta’s post saying she wanted to be raped slavemaster-style_. Looks to me like Shodan is saying that people agree that YWTF want that. And if that’s not what he meant, he should have clarified because it _really_ easily can be read that way. I saw it the first time reading through the link.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tanned-darker-than-our-president-perfectly-ok/520472/179 "2009-12-10T16:26:12Z")

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> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#):
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> The irony is that you’ve been threadshitting in _this_ thread to complain about **Dinsdale’s** threadshitting.

Uh, false. Pit threads backfire on the OP (generically, not Dinsdale specifically) with surprising regularity. Threadshitting is a total hijack - a backfire stays on subject but with a different target.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tanned-darker-than-our-president-perfectly-ok/520472/180 "2009-12-10T16:30:45Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Pit threads backfire on the OP (generically, not Dinsdale specifically) with surprising regularity.

Don’t think I personally have much more I care to add to this thread - but wanted to note that I started this off in IMHO rather than the Pit.

Thanks to everyone who weighed in on everything that was raised.

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