Tapping Sun's Energy

How? As noted above, the ultimate limiting factor is the amount of energy put out by the sun. Even if we had 100% efficient solar cells (something that is physically impossible), we’d have to damn-near cover the entire planet in solar cells to be able to replace our current power plants.

This is probably an overstatement. According to this, a reasonable estimate, including efficiency and cloudy days, it would require only the area of Spain. :slight_smile:

So it would be a lot bigger than any other project mankind has undertaken, but there certainly is enough wasteland in the Sahara to make it happen (if every other issue involved in doing so was nullified).

Nobody (well, nobody that matters) has ever suggestion that all power generation be replaced by solar. The question is whether or not it makes economic sense to build solar plants at all.

  • Cost - Though KW/$ it’s cheap, the infrastructure isn’t.
  • Storage - If you don’t want your power to go out when the sun goes down, you’ll have to store it
  • Transport - I can choose where to strategically place power plants for the most efficient power grid. I can’t so much with all solar.
  • **Land use **- No greenhouse emissions doesn’t necessarily mean it’s good for the environment. Having massive tracts of land “sterilized” for the purpose of sun harvesting will still harm the environment.

I think solar is a great supplement and they’ve developed new paneling that can roll on like wallpaper, it’s hopelessly naive to think a single power can solve all of our energy problems. It’ll take some hybrid of many different sources to carve out a path of least evil.

The Op did. Are you insulting one of our newest members? :smiley:

The price per kilowatt, or other power unit, is high, precisely because that’s a function of the expensive infrastructure. The marginal price per kilowatt-hour, or other energy unit, is low, because there’s no need to purchase fuel.

So, to make things easy on people, if you want to go solar at home, with staying on the electrical grid so you can still have all the electricity with less bill.

These are the parts of a grid-tie system, in order:

  1. Solar Modules (aka PV Panels) collect energy from the sun and turn it into direct current.
  2. Power Inverter turns the DC from the panels into AC that your appliances can use.
  3. PV Disconnect lets you cut off power so that you can work on the system without electrocuting yourself.
  4. **Your home’s breaker box **is where the solar energy connects to your house.
  5. Net meter connects your house to the grid, measuring how much power you take from - or give to - the power grid at large.

Start by going and getting a copy of your electrical bill, and find out what the average amount of kW you use on a daily basis. [monthly kW divided by 30]

For sake of argument, you use 900kWh per month that comes out to be 30 kWh per day.
Find the insolation in your area here. [use photovoltaic]
So, 30 kWh/day at 5 hours of sunlight, then you need to have PV panels that produce 6kW to be stored in batteries to be run through your inverter to power your home.

So, if you check the average solar supplier, you need 25 panels supplying 240W at $300 per panel [the supposed regular price for Canadian Solar brand at solar town, which I googled] and each panel is 64"x38". [roughly 5.3 feet x 3 feet] which needs to be put up in the sun somewhere. This doesn’t count the cost of the construction, electrician or other materials you will be needing.

I wouldn’t put it on the roof, can’t easily access it to clean bird crap and detritus off, so it needs to be plunked down in your yard. Can’t be overshaded by trees, so you need to not have a neighbor who is into raising sequoias … and your HOA can’t hate you for cluttering up your yard.

Where does it say “over 20%” in the article? The article says:

Note that the typical value is about 3% (German solar power output up 60 pct in 2011 | Reuters). The 10% figure is for a single month. (http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/06/12/497984/solar-provides-10-of-germanys-electricity-in-may/)

No, your average power usage is the same no matter what time period you’re looking at, be it day or month. You want your energy usage there (i.e., how many kWh you use), not your power (i.e., how many kW).

Your statement here, as written, is equivalent to answering “Farmer John had thirty horses in April. How many horses did he have on each day in April?” with “1 horse”.

Sorry, I was going by memory, on this stupid phone it is tricky to surf and get back .. next time I will answer at home on a real computer :slight_smile:

Apologies. Was surfing on a small phone, here’s the sort of numbers I saw in the Google results that confused me: 22% from renewable energy, but about a quarter of that from solar. I remembered the “Germany gets a mess of energy from solar compared to the US and they’re a smaller country with less sunlight than the US” summary and searched to figure out how much.

Dyson rings, nets, bubbles, swarms and/or spheres.

C’mon, NASA! We should have had these 20 years ago!

:wink:

I kid, I kid.

How much energy is used to manufacture a solar panel?

How much pollution and toxic waste does this manufacturing process create?