# TAR 3/2: Baby Bear's Soup **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 2, 2014, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tar-3-2-baby-bears-soup/682706 "2014-03-02T22:53:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tar-3-2-baby-bears-soup/682706/21 "2014-03-03T14:21:25Z")
Cowboys grrrrrrrrrrrr WTF… ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Doom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Dr\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Doom)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tar-3-2-baby-bears-soup/682706/22 "2014-03-03T15:58:04Z")
IMO, as soon as **Mark** handed his backpack to **Mallory** , she was in charge of it. Both of them are boneheads for being so caught up in what was happening to forget this large, heavy piece of luggage wasn’t present. Not surprising, really, and I blame **Mallory** for that mindset as well. It just seemed she was easily thrown into a tizzy on both legs, and caused the two of them to lose focus. **Afghanimals** still insist on invading the personal space of strangers by physically lifting them off the ground when completing a task. How obnoxious. **Luke** is a complete basket-case. I can’t wait for his mother to actually slap his whining face. I found it comical when the two were having difficulty with the featherball, **Luke** is visibly frustrated (big surprise) and signing, **Margie** says _“Stop yelling at me.”_ The taller of **Flight Time and Big Easy** climbing out of the cab was hilarious. _“I feel like I’m coming out of the birth canal.”_ There were a couple other funny comments but I can’t remember them now. Pretty good episode, in all. ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tar-3-2-baby-bears-soup/682706/23 "2014-03-03T17:00:40Z")
> [@Dr\_Doom](#): > > There were a couple other funny comments but I can’t remember them now. I loved the little girl saying “I’m going to report you for your attitude” or whatever it was she said. > [@Dr\_Doom](#): > > Luke is a complete basket-case. I can’t wait for his mother to actually slap his whining face. I found it comical when the two were having difficulty with the featherball, Luke is visibly frustrated (big surprise) and signing, Margie says “Stop yelling at me.” Exactly, Luke seems ready to jump on his mom if she makes a mistake too easily. It’s probably an easy dynamic to slip into. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tar-3-2-baby-bears-soup/682706/24 "2014-03-03T17:13:05Z")
I wonder if Luke bullied Margie into being on the Race again. They’ve proved whatever they planned to prove about Luke’s deafness not affecting his ability to Race (apart from the tasks where they specified “YOU MUST BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND SPOKEN INSTRUCTIONS TO DO THIS TASK”), and she really, really doesn’t look happy to be there. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tar-3-2-baby-bears-soup/682706/25 "2014-03-03T18:41:07Z")
> [@Dr\_Doom](#): > > There were a couple other funny comments but I can’t remember them now. I love when Joey gets frustrated and his lisp disappears. That happened yesterday during the, IIRC, featherball task. > [@muldoonthief](#): > > I wonder if Luke bullied Margie into being on the Race again. They’ve proved whatever they planned to prove about Luke’s deafness not affecting his ability to Race (apart from the tasks where they specified “YOU MUST BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND SPOKEN INSTRUCTIONS TO DO THIS TASK”), and she really, really doesn’t look happy to be there. Probably because they lost both previous times because Luke had a meltdown and it looks like its going to happen pretty damn early this time. If they survive more than three episodes I will be shocked. Completely fucking shocked. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tar-3-2-baby-bears-soup/682706/26 "2014-03-03T18:51:59Z")
> [@kiz](#): > > OUCH. I think Mallory knew full and well _she_ forgot the backpack, but damn if she would admit it. A lot privilege revealed, too, in that whole “I have your passport, I have your meds” exchange. Yeah, people would have given Mark clothes, but that’s NOT the point. This is a guy who literally has NOTHING and harks from one of the poorest counties in your state, if not the entire country. You’re a former Miss Teen USA or other such title and your family is well off. Right and now poor Mark has his (borrowed) backpack and no chance at the million. Look, I understand when you’ve got nothing it’s harder to let something go but Mallory was right. She fucked up leaving it, but she was right to want to forget it. ---
**Author:** ![Pai325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pai325](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pai325)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tar-3-2-baby-bears-soup/682706/27 "2014-03-03T19:07:56Z")
I thought Luke was the kind of guy who still lived at home, but on the CBS page I found out that he lived in Alaska for a year, and now lives in Pennsylvania while his mother lives in Colorado. Margie says she doesn’t see him much. He still acts young, though. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tar-3-2-baby-bears-soup/682706/28 "2014-03-03T23:27:36Z")
I forgot how much I liked the father & son team who won this leg. Last time they played, the father tore (not ruptured) his achilles tendon, got a cast on it and proceeded to win the next leg, cast and all. They then withdrew from the race. Their general competence is refreshing, and I’m now routing for them and the cowboys to make the final 3. > [@zut](#): > > I’ll move them up a notch this week, but I’d like to see how Rachel performs when she actually has to do a Roadblock. Rachel was a challenge monster on both of her seasons of Big Brother, with numerous challenge wins, including wins over/against Brendon in her first season. She won the $500k grand prize her second season in no small part due to winning (checks wiki) four head of household competitions. That’s a big number, roughly equivalent to winning four legs of TAR. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2014, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tar-3-2-baby-bears-soup/682706/29 "2014-03-04T00:00:52Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > routing Ouch, that one’s embarrassing. That’s even a meme on one of the boards I read. Ugh. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2014, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tar-3-2-baby-bears-soup/682706/30 "2014-03-04T00:36:54Z")
Am I the only one who sees the title of this thread as TAR Baby - Bear’s Soup? ---
**Author:** ![Pai325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pai325](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pai325)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2014, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tar-3-2-baby-bears-soup/682706/31 "2014-03-04T01:21:34Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > Am I the only one who sees the title of this thread as TAR Baby - Bear’s Soup? The 3/2 breaks it up for me. Or it did, but now I will see it as TAR baby. ---
**Author:** ![kiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7feea3/32.png) [@kiz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiz)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2014, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tar-3-2-baby-bears-soup/682706/32 "2014-03-04T01:49:55Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > Am I the only one who sees the title of this thread as TAR Baby - Bear’s Soup? OMG, I never saw that either! And I’m the one who wrote it :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2014, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tar-3-2-baby-bears-soup/682706/33 "2014-03-04T02:19:58Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > Am I the only one who sees the title of this thread as TAR Baby - Bear’s Soup? Not the only one…I figured I was the only one who saw it that way. Yeah, I think that Mark and Mallory probably should have left the backpack, but I get why Mark didn’t want to. He really bristled at the suggestion that other people would lend or give him things. I think there is a certain amount of not wanting to accept charity on his part. I have a question that I’m sure has been answered before. Do the racers carry all their gear with them all the time or is their cold weather gear stored for them until they need it and then switched out? Would Mark have been able to survive without his backpack? It seems to me that back when they stripped the racers who came last in a non-elimination leg of all the possessions and money, they still ended up with appropriate clothing later on. ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2014, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tar-3-2-baby-bears-soup/682706/34 "2014-03-04T04:49:18Z")
My future TAR partner (not really, we’ve sent in tapes twice and never heard a peep) have an agreement that if we were ever on the show, we’d put half of our clothes in each bag so that it will be much easier to let one go if need be. Mallory messed up (assuming the editing didn’t cut something showing otherwise) but she was right they should have abandoned it and hoped another team brought it along, another task took them on a rather that wasn’t too far out of the way for getting it back, or that there’d be an opportunity to recover it later. I understand leaving it behind and going a month without the contents would be rough but if you’re in to win (though I don’t think they had a great chance regardless) touch choices may need to be made. I do, however, want to play feather ball. Reminded me of the feet only version of foursquare we played at my elementary school. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2014, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tar-3-2-baby-bears-soup/682706/35 "2014-03-04T12:51:24Z")
The real mistake was not reaching an ironclad decision and implementing it the instant they realized they forgot the bag. They were on the way to deliver the toy car - every second they spent driving towards the delivery instead of back for the bag was doubly wasted. They could have saved a bunch of time if they turned the taxi around immediately. **Rhiannon8404** , we were wondering the same thing - those packs don’t look big enough to hold a large parka and significant other clothing. But even if they do meet pre-positioned supplies along the way, there’s likely a rule that if you do abandon/lose your backpack, you don’t get the pre-positioned supplies - otherwise people would be more likely to leave them behind to gain a few minutes. ---
**Author:** ![Cayuga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Cayuga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cayuga)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2014, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tar-3-2-baby-bears-soup/682706/36 "2014-03-04T14:49:49Z")
> [@eenerms](#): > > Cowboys grrrrrrrrrrrr WTF… Really? I love the cowboys — Rooted for them to win both previous seasons, and am doing it again. > [@obfusciatrist](#): > > My future TAR partner (not really, we’ve sent in tapes twice and never heard a peep) have an agreement that if we were ever on the show, we’d put half of our clothes in each bag so that it will be much easier to let one go if need be… That is brilliant! Because the show is edited (which, obviously, it needs to be), we can’t tell 1. how far it was from the point they discovered the missing backpack back to where they left it. 2. whether the place where the backpack was left was in the same direction as the location of the next task, the opposite direction, or something in between. 3. how much time it cost them to retrieve the backpack. 4. how much time they spent playing feather ball. 5. how much more time they spent feather ball than the next-to-last team did. If, for example, it cost them 15 minutes to retrieve the backpack, but they left feather ball 45 minutes after the next-to-last team, then the backpack was irrelevant. The producers played it up because it was a great story, but we can’t know if it really was significant or not. ---
**Author:** ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2014, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tar-3-2-baby-bears-soup/682706/37 "2014-03-04T16:16:06Z")
> [@Cayuga](#): > > Really? I love the cowboys — Rooted for them to win both previous seasons, and am doing it again. > > Because the show is edited (which, obviously, it needs to be), we can’t tell > > 1. how far it was from the point they discovered the missing backpack back to where they left it. > 2. whether the place where the backpack was left was in the same direction as the location of the next task, the opposite direction, or something in between. > 3. how much time it cost them to retrieve the backpack. > 4. how much time they spent playing feather ball. > 5. how much more time they spent feather ball than the next-to-last team did. > > If, for example, it cost them 15 minutes to retrieve the backpack, but they left feather ball 45 minutes after the next-to-last team, then the backpack was irrelevant. > > The producers played it up because it was a great story, but we can’t know if it really was significant or not. But they didn’t know the answers to any of those questions other than #1 when the back pack was lost either. Given the uncertainty if the decsions was to get the backpack the safe way to do so was to go get it right away. I doubt the two of them would ever have formed a cohesive team, they are both perfectly lovely people but have such different experiences that they were unlikely to find common ground under the pressures of the race. ---
**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2014, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tar-3-2-baby-bears-soup/682706/38 "2014-03-04T19:28:22Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Right and now poor Mark has his (borrowed) backpack and no chance at the million. Look, I understand when you’ve got nothing it’s harder to let something go but Mallory was right. She fucked up leaving it, but she was right to want to forget it. I don’t understand the reference to the “borrowed” backpack. I didn’t hear that bit when watching the episode. In the first episodes, it always seems like the packs are all matching, so I guess I assumed the teams backpacks were supplied by the Race. Are we supposed to believe he had to borrow a backpack from someone in order to get on the race? ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2014, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tar-3-2-baby-bears-soup/682706/39 "2014-03-04T19:30:47Z")
> [@Rhiannon8404](#): > > I don’t understand the reference to the “borrowed” backpack. I didn’t hear that bit when watching the episode. In the first episodes, it always seems like the packs are all matching, so I guess I assumed the teams backpacks were supplied by the Race. Are we supposed to believe he had to borrow a backpack from someone in order to get on the race? While they were arguing, he said something like “It isn’t even my backpack!” to which Mallory replied “I’ll buy you a new backpack!” ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2014, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tar-3-2-baby-bears-soup/682706/40 "2014-03-04T21:12:12Z")
> [@Rhiannon8404](#): > > I don’t understand the reference to the “borrowed” backpack. I didn’t hear that bit when watching the episode. In the first episodes, it always seems like the packs are all matching, so I guess I assumed the teams backpacks were supplied by the Race. Are we supposed to believe he had to borrow a backpack from someone in order to get on the race? [Here’s a pic of the last season’s racers.](http://www.travelfreak.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/The-Amazing-Race-Season-23-Feature-Photo.jpg) Every team seemed to have different backpacks. Not just different colors, but different styles. StG [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tar-3-2-baby-bears-soup/682706.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tar-3-2-baby-bears-soup/682706.md?page=3)