# Tarantino + 007 = Good Times!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tarantino-007-good-times/245332>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 15, 2004, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tarantino-007-good-times/245332 "2004-05-15T23:05:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![robgruver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/13edae/32.png) [@robgruver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robgruver)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tarantino-007-good-times/245332/1 "2004-05-15T23:05:21Z")

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[Link-ity Link](http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040515/en_nm/arts_cannes_tarantino_dc)

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> After four years of filming and editing his “Kill Bill” revenge saga, American director Quentin Tarantino feels like he’s climbed a cinematic mountain but instead of a much-desired rest he wants to tackle the Everest of film genres: James Bond.

Plus the man is dating (possibly) Sofia Coppola… Can he do no wrong?

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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tarantino-007-good-times/245332/2 "2004-05-15T23:19:49Z")

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I’ve heard rumors for a long time about Tarantino wanting to remake Casino Royale and do it “right.” I’ve also heard Ewan McGregor’s name batted around as a replacement for Pierce Brosnan, in case there’s a problem with the rights to Casino Royale, and Tarantino’s Bond movie would have to be “out of continuity.” Either way, I’d be there.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Pastrami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/96bed5/32.png) [@Captain\_Pastrami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Pastrami)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tarantino-007-good-times/245332/3 "2004-05-15T23:32:17Z")

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Oh good, another movie I can look forward to never ever seeing.

I can’t even begin to imagine how horrible this would be.

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tarantino-007-good-times/245332/4 "2004-05-15T23:52:12Z")

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On the one hand, I’m hopeful that he could bring an edge to the series that’s been lacking. On the other hand, his style is so much different from those of more conventional directors that it might as easily be the nadir of his career.

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**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tarantino-007-good-times/245332/5 "2004-05-16T00:03:04Z")

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Dear God, no.

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**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tarantino-007-good-times/245332/6 "2004-05-16T00:08:34Z")

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I’m somewhat curious, particulary considering this this the third “project” that Tarentino wants to do next.

First it was “The Vega Brothers”, then the WW2 movie “Inglorius Bastards” and now a new james bond movie.

He either

1.) can’t make up his mind.

2.) Is very ambitious and plans to do all of them.

3). Is throwing these out to keep us from knowing what he REALLY wants to do.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tarantino-007-good-times/245332/7 "2004-05-16T00:27:13Z")

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IMHO, 007 flicks are too stupid for Tarentino to lower himself to do.

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tarantino-007-good-times/245332/8 "2004-05-16T01:31:53Z")

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> He either
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> 1.) can’t make up his mind.
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> 2.) Is very ambitious and plans to do all of them.
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> 3). Is throwing these out to keep us from knowing what he REALLY wants to do.

Or 4). Likes to think very far ahead.

Look, I only understand it 'cuz I’m the same way… I’m always talking about projects I’d like to do in five or ten years.

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> IMHO, 007 flicks are too stupid for Tarentino to lower himself to do.

Oh, shush. _Thunderball_ was a cinematic masterpiece. If Master Quentin can pull off a flick half as good, it’ll still be marvelous.

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**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tarantino-007-good-times/245332/9 "2004-05-16T01:36:52Z")

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I hope he keeps the theme song by Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass, with minimal remixing.

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**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tarantino-007-good-times/245332/10 "2004-05-16T01:36:59Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> IMHO, 007 flicks are too stupid for Tarentino to lower himself to do.

Heh, heh.

But seriously, “the Everest of film genres” is James Bond? Bond is not even a genre, it’s a franchise. Tell that author that I hate him.

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**Author:** ![BraheSilver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@BraheSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BraheSilver)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tarantino-007-good-times/245332/11 "2004-05-16T02:11:55Z")

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Crank up the spectral telegramaphone, because Ian Fleming’s been in the grave a while. Unless you mean Gardner, who has written some Bond novels more recently.

Honestly, I don’t think James Bond would be a good Tarantino character. He’s not very introspective, his ‘wit’ is limited to puns about either how he just killed somebody or the woman he’s about to bed, and he doesn’t launch into expletive-filled tirades before resorting to violence.

I don’t know. Maybe if QT did a ‘spy movie’ with a Bondian plot I’d feel better about it. But Bond himself is something of an institution, admittedly a shamelessly cheesy institution. In my uninformed and probably worthless opinion on the subject, letting Tarantino make a Bond film wouldn’t result in “that Bond movie that QT directed,” but instead “that QT film with James Bond in it.”

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tarantino-007-good-times/245332/12 "2004-05-16T02:20:24Z")

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Hand me my explosive pen.  
Which one is it?  
The one that says BAD MOTHERFUCKER.

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tarantino-007-good-times/245332/13 "2004-05-16T02:59:46Z")

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[Here](http://www.examiner.ie/breaking/2004/05/03/story145762.html) is another article on the possiblity, with Brosnan’s take on it:

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> Pierce Brosnan thinks it would be a “magnificent” idea to have Quentin Tarantino direct the next James Bond film.
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> After meeting the maverick Pulp Fiction director, Brosnan believes he would be the perfect choice to remake the 1967 movie, which was filmed as an unofficial Bond spoof starring David Niven.
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> He says: "Quentin and I met and he is a huge Bond fan. He wants to remake Casino Royale. I don’t know if it’s ever going to happen.
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> “What Tarantino would bring to the film is life, and just a great sense of excitement and danger, and the perspective of a film-maker who has really made people sit up and watch his movies \<snip\>

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tarantino-007-good-times/245332/14 "2004-05-16T03:51:58Z")

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> Honestly, I don’t think James Bond would be a good Tarantino character.

Are you kidding? Bond is such an overly-flashy-stylized Man’s Man, it’s ridiculous. The poker game 'tween Bond and Largo? The fierce, crazed rivalry 'tween Bond and Blofeld? The battle 'tween Bond and Jaws? The strange, quirky characters of Goldfinger and Odd Job? Straight out of 'Tino, man!

The camerawork, the pacing, the direction, the tension… it’s something that Tarantino is a master of. Hell, he doesn’t even need a Doomsday weapon or countless Blofeld doubles or moon lasers (though those wouldn’t hurt). A Bond film is a combination Film Noir and Summer Action thriller… the reason why the latest batch of Bond flicks have been lousy is because the Noir element has been abandoned. Well, Quentin can tuck it back in… and I think he’s already proven that he can pull off the Action Thriller part.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tarantino-007-good-times/245332/15 "2004-05-16T04:08:37Z")

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Er… wasn’t _Casino Royale_ the David Niven _spoof_ of Bond?

Does it count as a Bond movie?

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tarantino-007-good-times/245332/16 "2004-05-16T04:42:10Z")

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> [@Really Not All That Bright](#):
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> Er… wasn’t _Casino Royale_ the David Niven _spoof_ of Bond?

IIRC, that’s one reason he wants to do it. It was such a piece of shit, and (supposedly) such a great original story/book, that he wants to see it done right.

Anyway, that’s what I hear. Unfortunately, Tarantino batters ideas around so often, that it’s hard to get really excited about _any_ rumours.

But I’m with **SPOOFE** on this one: if it does materialize, it could be something truly exciting and interesting (in a series that’s relied more and more on smash-em-up, cars, gadgets, etc. and less on story and just plain _cool_, IMHO).

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**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tarantino-007-good-times/245332/17 "2004-05-16T05:00:57Z")

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Well, I can think of worst things.

Like QT directing his own religious films. “The greatest motherfucking story ever told”

Jesus: “Judas, do you know what they call a motherfucking traitor in rome?”  
Judas: “No, what do they call him?”  
Jesus:" They call him a fucking dead nigga because the romans don’t tolerate treachy".  
(All the apostles pull big handguns and point them at Judas, while Judas pulls two big guns, pointing them both at Jesus).  
Jesus: “BTW, Peter, don’t you dare act like you don’t know me tomorrow. We’ve been through thick and thin and I’m gonna be fucking pissed if you act like you’ve never seen me before”

And of course, “Stuck in the middle with you” playing during the 33 lashes.

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tarantino-007-good-times/245332/18 "2004-05-16T06:19:56Z")

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Don’t forget the scene where Jesus asks Judas for a taste of his tasty burger…

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tarantino-007-good-times/245332/19 "2004-05-16T06:51:25Z")

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The Last Tasty Burger of Chirst. Brilliant!

I’m not a Bond fan, partly because the movies are all the same, and this might draw my interest. Looking at the box office totals from the last few movies on IMDb tells me it wouldn’t kill them to bring in people who aren’t die-hard Bond lovers. Having Tarantino shake things up might do that.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tarantino-007-good-times/245332/20 "2004-05-16T07:04:14Z")

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