# Tasha Yar vs Kara Thrace...who'd win? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 8, 2009, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345 "2009-01-08T06:14:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/21 "2009-01-08T15:55:03Z")
> [@Bootis](#): > > Tasha Yar (from ‘Code of Honor’ episode): “I think you should know, there is no physical training ANYWHERE that matches Starfleet. Especially it’s security officers.” Pfft. Worf, physically superior to a human being, gets his ass handed to him by anyone in a jumpsuit. She can talk tough, but that doesn’t make it so. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/22 "2009-01-08T17:09:04Z")
Kara Thrace will win, since she’s also bionic. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/23 "2009-01-08T17:12:56Z")
I’m with Oak. Tasha’s specialty is hand-to-hand combat; Kara’s is not. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/24 "2009-01-08T17:18:17Z")
Kara will stab Tasha in the neck, then casually finish breakfast. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/25 "2009-01-08T17:20:25Z")
Didn’t Tasha basically get killed by a mud puddle? I gotta go with Kara. ---
**Author:** ![carlb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carlb/32/5930_2.png) [@carlb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carlb)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/26 "2009-01-08T17:31:40Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Kara. Bitch is _crazy_. > [@billfish678](#): > > Drunk, crazy, and willing to play dirty? > > Advantage Kara. I gotta go with this line of reasoning. Kara’s going to play _really_ dirty, and not have any qualms about it. Just remember her face after sticking a knife in one of the Leobens, and then sitting down to finish dinner. ---
**Author:** ![maniondl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cdc98d/32.png) [@maniondl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maniondl)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/27 "2009-01-08T17:38:36Z")
Yeah, in a knock-down, drag-out, fight for survival, my money always goes on the chick who survived being squished in the atmosphere of a gas giant planet. Kara Thrace in the second round. ---
**Author:** ![WarmNPrickly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d78d45/32.png) [@WarmNPrickly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WarmNPrickly)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/28 "2009-01-08T17:50:07Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Kara will stab Tasha in the neck, then casually finish breakfast. Kara could kick any starfleet ass she wanted, and eat THEM for breakfast. If there is one thing the Star Trek series could never do, it’s coreograph a convincing fight. The worst offenders were the fights between Jadzia and Worf. Jadzia was supposed to be tough, but I could never buy it. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/29 "2009-01-08T17:55:40Z")
Kara if she’s liquored up, feeling no pain. Else it’s a toss up. You _sure_ we can’t have mud? ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/30 "2009-01-08T18:23:28Z")
When Star Trek officers want to settle a grudge, they dress up like Tron and do that silly [Anbo-jytsu](http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Image:Anbo-jytsu_arena.jpg) thing. When Galactica officers want to settle a grudge, they put on the gloves and [box](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BattlestarGalactica_--_3x09_-_Unfinished_Business.jpg). Definitely Kara. Hell, I’d bet Cally could take Tasha. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/31 "2009-01-08T18:23:59Z")
Throw in Seven of Nine and the winner would be the audience. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/32 "2009-01-08T18:45:01Z")
Gaida could kick Spock’s ass, Spock could kick anyone in the Star Trek universe’s ass, and Kara Thrace can kick Gaida’s ass, therefore Kara Thrace could kick what’s her faces ass. Battlestar Galactica = Ancient Greeks in space Star Trek = Hippies in space ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/33 "2009-01-08T18:53:01Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > When Galactica officers want to settle a grudge, they put on the gloves Uuless they are Cylon sleepers and shoot somebody several times in the gut. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/34 "2009-01-08T19:01:02Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Gaida could kick Spock’s ass, Spock could kick anyone in the Star Trek universe’s ass, and Kara Thrace can kick Gaida’s ass, therefore Kara Thrace could kick what’s her faces ass. What does it mean, “Gaida”? ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/35 "2009-01-08T19:03:27Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > What does it mean, “Gaida”? Felix Gaeta. Probably Spock’s nearest analog in the BSG universe. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Sweetums](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Sweetums](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sweetums)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/36 "2009-01-08T19:07:43Z")
> [@Bootis](#): > > Tasha Yar (from ‘Code of Honor’ episode): “I think you should know, there is no physical training ANYWHERE that matches Starfleet. Especially it’s security officers.” > > I’m afraid she is right. Tasha Yar is chief security officer on THE Flagship of all Starfleet. Kara Trace is a badass pilot. I’m sorry, but, no contest. At all. ``` Okay the first time I heard this line, I treated it as a joke. "No physical training ANYWHERE that matches Starfleet. Especially it's security officers." It just drips with irony. Starfleet security exists solely to have their butts kicked by the threat of the week. Saying they have received intense training is a rather pointless statement. Kind of like when I hear about someone getting a "black belt" from one of the McDojos that will give you one in a year. ``` So lets look at performance. Kara took on a cylon (Six), and took a beating like a film noir detective. Yet she kept on coming. Cylons are indeed supposed to be stronger and tougher than humans, so I’m guessing that another human would be in trouble. Tasha with her Starfleet security training would perhaps get a few hits in, but Kara would smile, spit out a few drop of blood, and hand Tasha’s ass back to her giftwraped. ``` No contest, Kara for the knockout in the first round. :cool: ``` ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/37 "2009-01-08T19:48:00Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > Throw in Seven of Nine and the winner would be the audience. Actually, Seven of Nine is signed for the main event in my next fantasy fight thread, against an opponent that should pose a suitable challenge for her. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/38 "2009-01-08T20:11:12Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Gaida could kick Spock’s ass, Spock could kick anyone in the Star Trek universe’s ass, and Kara Thrace can kick Gaida’s ass, therefore Kara Thrace could kick what’s her faces ass. If we’re talking no weapons, Spock would have a hard time against Data. His only chance would be to somehow lure Data into a position where he could hit the hidden kill switch (if he even knew about it), or trap Data in an environmental hazard of some kind. As for Gaeta kicking Spock’s ass, I don’t think so. Vulcans can take an ungodly amount of punishment compared to humans. Witness Gaeta being laid low by a measly gunshot wound, while Spock withstood a faceful of raw warp core radiation long enough to fix the Enterprise’s engines. Hell, I’d give even odds on Spock vs. a Cylon. I’d say the Cylons are stronger but Spock is tougher. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/39 "2009-01-08T20:33:14Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Gaida could kick Spock’s ass, Cite. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/40 "2009-01-08T20:53:13Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Cite. 🙂 Battlestar Galactica by its nature is badass and Star Trek by its nature is pansy. 😉 The point is that the weakest member of the BSG universe could kick the ass of the most badass member of the Star Trek universe. 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345.md?page=3)