# Tasha Yar vs Kara Thrace...who'd win? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 8, 2009, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345 "2009-01-08T06:14:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/41 "2009-01-08T20:55:06Z")
> [@sturmhauke](#): > > If we’re talking no weapons, Spock would have a hard time against Data. His only chance would be to somehow lure Data into a position where he could hit the hidden kill switch (if he even knew about it), or trap Data in an environmental hazard of some kind. > > As for Gaeta kicking Spock’s ass, I don’t think so. Vulcans can take an ungodly amount of punishment compared to humans. Witness Gaeta being laid low by a measly gunshot wound, while Spock withstood a faceful of raw warp core radiation long enough to fix the Enterprise’s engines. > > Hell, I’d give even odds on Spock vs. a Cylon. I’d say the Cylons are stronger but Spock is tougher. I don’t see how being able to absorb radiation would make him more capable of handling a breach in hull integrity. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/42 "2009-01-08T20:56:30Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Actually, Seven of Nine is signed for the main event in my next fantasy fight thread, against an opponent that should pose a suitable challenge for her. 😃 I will only attend if there is oil involved. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/43 "2009-01-08T21:06:40Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > I will only attend if there is oil involved. I’d attend if 10 W 40 was involved. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/44 "2009-01-08T21:08:30Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > The point is that the weakest member of the BSG universe could kick the ass of the most badass member of the Star Trek universe. 😉 I was going to complement you in a logical sequence based on some actor being in both shows, but like me, you’re fan wanking. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/45 "2009-01-08T21:13:42Z")
BSG’s Hoshi could kick Enterprise’s Hoshi’s ass. ---
**Author:** ![Leiko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Leiko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leiko)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/46 "2009-01-08T21:18:44Z")
It might be fanwanking- but wouldn’t Nana Vistor’s characters on Battlestar Galactica and Deep Space Nine work for **mswas** ’s theory? And for the original question: Kara Thrace, no question. But Yar’s Romulan daughter, or whoever Sela was besides a Romulan played by Denise Crosby, would come for revenge. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/47 "2009-01-08T21:20:50Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I’d attend if 10 W 40 was involved. Eww, I was thinking more like Jojoba or something. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/48 "2009-01-08T21:23:51Z")
Hey what can I say? Star Trek is the pansiest of all Sci Fi universes. ---
**Author:** ![AndyPolley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@AndyPolley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AndyPolley)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/49 "2009-01-08T21:27:21Z")
> [@Leiko](#): > > It might be fanwanking- but wouldn’t Nana Vistor’s characters on Battlestar Galactica and Deep Space Nine work for **mswas** ’s theory? How about Ro Laren & Helena Cain? I’d give the fight to Cain, but I love me some Ro in a Starfleet uniform. Give my vote to Starbuck. How many times has Lee punched her in the face, and her response is to just give an annoyed look and punch back? How many seconds before Tasha hit the floor if Lee punched her? What if Richard Hatch hit her? What if Katee Sackoff & Dirk Benedict were in a fistfight? What’s happening to my geek brain? It’s malfunctioning… ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/50 "2009-01-08T21:33:58Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > Throw in Seven of Nine and the winner would be the audience. I’ve got it! Before the Kara/Tasha main event, there should be an exhibition match: Seven of Nine vs. T’Pol in the decon room from _Enterprise_. Catsuits off, ladies–prepare to get sweaty! :eek: 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/51 "2009-01-08T21:37:08Z")
Next up: Bester vs. Chekov. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/52 "2009-01-08T21:39:40Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Next up: Bester vs. Chekov. Bester hands down. More evidence in support of my theory. Bester wouldn’t even touch Chekov and he’d be on the ground drueling and convulsing faster than you can say Nuclear Wessel. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/53 "2009-01-08T21:40:31Z")
Bester would make Chekov scream like a little girl. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/54 "2009-01-08T21:42:19Z")
> [@JThunder](#): > > Bester would make Chekov scream like a little girl. Q could make Bester be a little girl. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/55 "2009-01-08T21:44:21Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Q could make Bester be a little girl. Heh, but he’s a God. Not really fair. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/56 "2009-01-08T21:47:14Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Q could make Bester be a little girl. Yeah, but Sheriden would tell Q to get the \*hell \*out of his galaxy. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/57 "2009-01-08T21:57:01Z")
> [@JThunder](#): > > Bester would make Chekov scream like a little girl. Pffft, like _that’s_ hard. A stubbed toe makes Chekov scream like a little girl. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/58 "2009-01-08T21:59:09Z")
Okay… _Next Generation_ characters versus their _Gargoyles_ counterparts. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/59 "2009-01-08T22:03:00Z")
> [@sturmhauke](#): > > If we’re talking no weapons, Spock would have a hard time against Data. His only chance would be to somehow lure Data into a position where he could hit the hidden kill switch (if he even knew about it), or trap Data in an environmental hazard of some kind. > > As for Gaeta kicking Spock’s ass, I don’t think so. Vulcans can take an ungodly amount of punishment compared to humans. Witness Gaeta being laid low by a measly gunshot wound, while Spock withstood a faceful of raw warp core radiation long enough to fix the Enterprise’s engines. > > Hell, I’d give even odds on Spock vs. a Cylon. I’d say the Cylons are stronger but Spock is tougher. Spock’s toughness level is hard to pin down, because he doesn’t like fighting. But clearly he’s so much stronger than human that the it’s not funny. In “Bread & Circuses,” when he’s forced to be a gladiator, he’s simply toying with his opponent the entire time, despite his opponent’s greater familiarity with the weapons–or, rather, he’s trying to disable the guy without using the neck pinch (so it doesn’t look like cheating) or killing him (which is probably tougher than it sounds). ---
**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/60 "2009-01-08T22:08:16Z")
> [@Bootis](#): > > Tasha Yar (from ‘Code of Honor’ episode): “I think you should know, there is no physical training ANYWHERE that matches Starfleet. Especially it’s security officers.” > > I’m afraid she is right. Tasha Yar is chief security officer on THE Flagship of all Starfleet. Kara Trace is a badass pilot. I’m sorry, but, no contest. At all. In hand to hand combat though I think Thrace would win. I can’t think of anyone but Worf or data thould seem like a formidable hand to hand opponent and Tasha never struck me as being particularly badass at all. The real challenge should be \*\*\*Major \*_(or Colonel, at least in the last season of DS9) **Kira** _ vs Thrace or Yar. I think kira could easily kick Yar’s behind and even Thrace. (Thrace would probably fight dirty, but as a former resistance fighter, Kira probably would too.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345.md?page=4)