# Tasha Yar vs Kara Thrace...who'd win? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 8, 2009, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345 "2009-01-08T06:14:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/61 "2009-01-08T22:19:01Z")
> [@slitterst](#): > > Bear in mind that Tasha was bad-ass enough to have Worf as her subordinate. So if she can keep a Klingon in line, what would she to do Kara? That may be do to rank. Heck, I have an assistant that is damned good at her job and better at it than I am, but do to rank, she is my subordinate. (I haven’t been trained on the new equipment I have to work on so its not like I’m just crappy or anything). Worf and Yar could both be LT’s but Yar may outrank him with time in grade. (I think at the start of TNG Worf was a Lt. Junior grade and Yar was a full LT.) ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/62 "2009-01-08T22:20:12Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Hey what can I say? Star Trek is the pansiest of all Sci Fi universes. I’ll put ripped shirt Kirk up against any of your BSG girly men, including Kara Thrace! 500 Quatloos! ---
**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/63 "2009-01-08T22:21:29Z")
How about [Aeryn Sun](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeryn_Sun#Aeryn_Sun) vs Kira/Yar/Thrace? ---
**Author:** ![WarmNPrickly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d78d45/32.png) [@WarmNPrickly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WarmNPrickly)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/64 "2009-01-08T22:42:38Z")
> [@Jolly\_Roger](#): > > …The real challenge should be \*\*\*Major \*_(or Colonel, at least in the last season of DS9) **Kira** _ vs Thrace or Yar. I think kira could easily kick Yar’s behind and even Thrace. (Thrace would probably fight dirty, but as a former resistance fighter, Kira probably would too.) Good Starfleet Kira or Bad black leather Kira? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/65 "2009-01-09T00:20:07Z")
> [@WarmNPrickly](#): > > Good Starfleet Kira or Bad black leather Kira? You know what, as much as I, er, _appreciate_ black leather Kira, I was never convinced that she was that much of a badass. Cruel, certainly - but she’s been in a privileged position for a long time, and she’s gotten soft. “Starfleet” Kira (actually, I think she’s Bajoran military) consistently kicks Black Leather Kira’s ass. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/66 "2009-01-09T00:25:03Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > . > She can talk tough, but that doesn’t make it so. > > -Joe You’re right. Number One makes it so. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![WarmNPrickly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d78d45/32.png) [@WarmNPrickly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WarmNPrickly)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/67 "2009-01-09T00:59:43Z")
> [@Mr.Excellent](#): > > You know what, as much as I, er, _appreciate_ black leather Kira, I was never convinced that she was that much of a badass. Cruel, certainly - but she’s been in a privileged position for a long time, and she’s gotten soft. “Starfleet” Kira (actually, I think she’s Bajoran military) consistently kicks Black Leather Kira’s ass. Yea, but not before bad Kira rips her clothes off and … Oh wait, that wasn’t an actual episode. I’d love to get a good pic of bad Kira, but I couldn’t find it anywhere on the internet. Pictures of her are extremely elusive. ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/68 "2009-01-09T03:48:35Z")
> [@Jolly\_Roger](#): > > How about [Aeryn Sun](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeryn_Sun#Aeryn_Sun) vs Kira/Yar/Thrace? Rule 34, internet! Don’t let me down! (Kara KOs in the first round, Aeryn takes her down in the next.) ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/69 "2009-01-09T03:53:37Z")
> [@WarmNPrickly](#): > > Yea, but not before bad Kira rips her clothes off and … Oh wait, that wasn’t an actual episode. More’s the pity… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/70 "2009-01-09T04:26:04Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > I don’t see how being able to absorb radiation would make him more capable of handling a breach in hull integrity. You’re assuming here that Gaeta would be able to maneuver Spock into such a position that Spock would be blown out into space, while Gaeta remains safe. This is a bad assumption. If anything, the reverse is much more likely. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/71 "2009-01-09T04:33:33Z")
Christ On A Crutch, **Boxey** could take Gaeta, no matter how you spell his name. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/72 "2009-01-09T05:29:35Z")
> [@Bootis](#): > > Tasha Yar (from ‘Code of Honor’ episode): “I think you should know, there is no physical training ANYWHERE that matches Starfleet. Especially it’s security officers.” > > I’m afraid she is right. Tasha Yar is chief security officer on THE Flagship of all Starfleet. Kara Trace is a badass pilot. I’m sorry, but, no contest. At all. Nothing we see in the TNG series suggests there is anything badass about Starfleet security officers, or that they can even shoot straight, for that matter. Tasha Yar is a “Badass” by reputation only in a military force full of pussies. Kara Thrace is a hard core fuck-you-up soldier-bitch of the first order who can kick 5000 different kinds of ass. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/73 "2009-01-09T05:50:48Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I’ll put ripped shirt Kirk up against any of your BSG girly men, including Kara Thrace! Are you kidding me? Kirk fights like he was directed in a pre Hong Kong action film era. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/74 "2009-01-09T15:49:47Z")
Put your quatloos where your mouth is… What does it mean, “Hong Kong Action”? ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/75 "2009-01-09T15:56:45Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Put your quatloos where your mouth is… > What does it mean, “Hong Kong Action”? It means the opposite of ponderous, slow telegraphed punches. The way Hollywood tough guys fought before the Chinese showed us Americans how to fight on screen. Meaning Kara Thrace could sit down for tea and finish between the time he starts the punch and by the time it’s supposed to land. ---
**Author:** ![Iolanthe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7bcc69/32.png) [@Iolanthe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iolanthe)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/76 "2009-01-09T23:05:31Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Christ On A Crutch, **Boxey** could take Gaeta, no matter how you spell his name. Huh? This would be the Gaeta who almost killed Gaius Baltar with a pen? The Gaeta who… in the webisodes just killed his cylon ex-girlfriend with what looked like an exacto knife? That Gaeta? Yeah, he most likely ain’t gonna take Starbuck, but don’t let him near you with a knife. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/77 "2009-01-10T01:41:24Z")
> [@Iolanthe](#): > > Huh? This would be the Gaeta who almost killed Gaius Baltar with a pen? I don’t doubt you, but I can’t remember that. I remember enjoying his leg rotting off, but I don’t remember the other. I’d better watch some episodes again. Kirk could take him without a ripped shirt, though. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/78 "2009-01-10T04:21:16Z")
> [@Iolanthe](#): > > Huh? This would be the Gaeta who almost killed Gaius Baltar with a pen? How difficult can _that_ be? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/79 "2009-01-10T14:29:58Z")
> [@Bootis](#): > > Tasha Yar (from ‘Code of Honor’ episode): “I think you should know, there is no physical training ANYWHERE that matches Starfleet. Especially it’s security officers.” Is that the training where they receive the coveted “red shirt”? ---
**Author:** ![carlb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carlb/32/5930_2.png) [@carlb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carlb)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345/80 "2009-01-11T17:59:13Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > How difficult can _that_ be? 🙂 Apparently pretty difficult when you’re a BUTTERFINGERS! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tasha-yar-vs-kara-thrace-whod-win/480345.md?page=3)