# TBN-Paul and Jan-Admit to alcoholism in the 90s? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 17, 2008, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tbn-paul-and-jan-admit-to-alcoholism-in-the-90s/477503 "2008-12-17T02:32:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![greatshakes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/58956e/32.png) [@greatshakes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/greatshakes)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tbn-paul-and-jan-admit-to-alcoholism-in-the-90s/477503/1 "2008-12-17T02:32:38Z")
Did Paul and Jan admit, on air, in the 90s, to alcoholism? I heard, in the mid 90s that they did. I dissed the person that told me this, but a third person that was there lilstening to me said that he either heard it himself, or that he had heard of it as well. I didn’t believe it then, nor do I now. It won’t hurt my feelings either way, but I think that they are too cagey, even if they were contrite, to spill their guts. Has anybody here heard of this? Any links or info? Thanks, greatshakes ---
**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tbn-paul-and-jan-admit-to-alcoholism-in-the-90s/477503/2 "2008-12-17T13:26:48Z")
What’s TBN, and who are Paul and Jan? ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tbn-paul-and-jan-admit-to-alcoholism-in-the-90s/477503/3 "2008-12-17T13:45:43Z")
> [@corkboard](#): > > What’s TBN, and who are Paul and Jan? This. ---
**Author:** ![omni-not](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8dc957/32.png) [@omni-not](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/omni-not)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tbn-paul-and-jan-admit-to-alcoholism-in-the-90s/477503/4 "2008-12-17T13:49:57Z")
> [@KneadToKnow](#): > > This. Ahhhhh… thanks for clearing that up, **Knead** Perhaps linkie missing? ---
**Author:** ![greatshakes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/58956e/32.png) [@greatshakes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/greatshakes)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tbn-paul-and-jan-admit-to-alcoholism-in-the-90s/477503/5 "2008-12-17T13:59:43Z")
TBN=Trinity Broadcast Network Paul and Jan=Paul and Jan Crouch ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tbn-paul-and-jan-admit-to-alcoholism-in-the-90s/477503/6 "2008-12-17T14:07:07Z")
> [@omni-not](#): > > Ahhhhh… thanks for clearing that up, **Knead** > > Perhaps linkie missing? It was the “this is what I’m saying” _This_ a.k.a. “+1” a.k.a. “QFT.” Sorry for the confusion. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tbn-paul-and-jan-admit-to-alcoholism-in-the-90s/477503/7 "2008-12-17T15:34:13Z")
> [@greatshakes](#): > > TBN=Trinity Broadcast Network > > Paul and Jan=Paul and Jan Crouch Must not be from the U.S. ---
**Author:** ![omni-not](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8dc957/32.png) [@omni-not](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/omni-not)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tbn-paul-and-jan-admit-to-alcoholism-in-the-90s/477503/8 "2008-12-17T19:41:56Z")
> [@KneadToKnow](#): > > It was the “this is what I’m saying” _This_ a.k.a. “+1” a.k.a. “QFT.” Sorry for the confusion. Thanks for… clearing it up a second time, **Knead** 😃 ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tbn-paul-and-jan-admit-to-alcoholism-in-the-90s/477503/9 "2008-12-17T19:59:51Z")
Happy to help. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tbn-paul-and-jan-admit-to-alcoholism-in-the-90s/477503/10 "2008-12-17T20:39:49Z")
This thread would be a lot more fun in **greatshakes** hadn’t actually answered the question. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tbn-paul-and-jan-admit-to-alcoholism-in-the-90s/477503/11 "2008-12-17T22:30:57Z")
Perhaps a Pitting of **greatshakes** is in order? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![greatshakes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/58956e/32.png) [@greatshakes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/greatshakes)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tbn-paul-and-jan-admit-to-alcoholism-in-the-90s/477503/12 "2008-12-18T01:15:38Z")
Hey! Wait a minute! btw, where is the smilie icon??? At any rate, I thought that somebody would have given the wikipedia link by now, so I’ll just have to do their work for them and post it for my OP. > **[Paul Crouch](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Crouch)** > > Paul Franklin Crouch /kraʊtʃ/ (March 30, 1934 – November 30, 2013) was an American television evangelist. Crouch and his wife, Jan, founded the Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN) in 1973; the company has been described as "the world’s largest religious television network." > Crouch was born in St. Joseph, Missouri, the third son of oft-traveling Assemblies of God missionaries, Andrew F. Crouch (January 7, 1889 – June 1, 1941) and wife, the former Sara Swingle (September 26, 1891 – September 29, 19... I am amazed that nobody seems to know who they are, but, OTOH, they are in their 70s and are probably just popular to…hmmm, I really can’t guess, now. Thanks, greatshakes ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tbn-paul-and-jan-admit-to-alcoholism-in-the-90s/477503/13 "2008-12-18T22:17:44Z")
> [@greatshakes](#): > > btw, where is the smilie icon??? No smilie. I was being serious. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Quintas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/48db29/32.png) [@Quintas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quintas)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tbn-paul-and-jan-admit-to-alcoholism-in-the-90s/477503/14 "2008-12-18T23:37:03Z")
here is jan Crouch: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/SurYY-41PAQ/hqdefault.jpg "Jan Crouch freeing her from the Devil") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SurYY-41PAQ) ---
**Author:** ![Quintas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/48db29/32.png) [@Quintas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quintas)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tbn-paul-and-jan-admit-to-alcoholism-in-the-90s/477503/15 "2008-12-18T23:39:31Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/IRirh4zTwig/hqdefault.jpg "jan crouch - Give God your grocery money") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRirh4zTwig) ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tbn-paul-and-jan-admit-to-alcoholism-in-the-90s/477503/16 "2008-12-19T00:45:49Z")
> [@Quintas](#): > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRirh4zTwig](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRirh4zTwig) I had no idea Ron White had ever done drag. ---
**Author:** ![greatshakes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/58956e/32.png) [@greatshakes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/greatshakes)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tbn-paul-and-jan-admit-to-alcoholism-in-the-90s/477503/17 "2008-12-19T01:51:31Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > No smilie. I was being serious. > > 😉 :eek: