# TdF2020 - Allez!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2020-allez/918985>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** bicycling-cycling\
**Created:** [August 25, 2020, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2020-allez/918985 "2020-08-25T14:48:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2020-allez/918985/221 "2020-11-01T15:30:47Z")

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Looks like they’re actually going to race today, so that’s nice.Carapaz really needs to take time on Roglic today because he’s going to lose some in the ITT. There’s no hiding on this mountain, so we’ll see who has form and who doesn’t.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2020-allez/918985/222 "2020-11-01T15:40:21Z")

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12km to go. Nearly done. 😧

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2020-allez/918985/223 "2020-11-01T15:44:44Z")

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On the contrary, we’re just getting started! At about 7km to go is where it gets really steep

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2020-allez/918985/224 "2020-11-01T15:47:02Z")

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Yeah, I was kidding. 😉

Does Sep Kuss ever look tired?

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2020-allez/918985/225 "2020-11-01T15:49:27Z")

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Not that I’ve ever noticed. He cracks now and then, but he doesn’t seem to do the grimace for 20 minutes first thing.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2020-allez/918985/226 "2020-11-01T15:51:41Z")

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I’d just get off the bike and walk. Or sit down.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2020-allez/918985/227 "2020-11-01T15:53:19Z")

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I believe for most ordinary people it would be faster to walk.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2020-allez/918985/228 "2020-11-01T15:55:28Z")

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I was on race courses like this. But on skis and heading in the other direction.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2020-allez/918985/229 "2020-11-01T15:58:22Z")

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Somebody is going to have to attack if they want to win this race. Jumbo Visma is going to be happy to play defense and rely on Roglic’s TT skills. I think the 23% bit is at about 3km to go, which is the obvious place to try something.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2020-allez/918985/230 "2020-11-01T16:02:25Z")

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I guess it’s a waiting game until Roglic is alone. Not sure that’s going to happen.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2020-allez/918985/231 "2020-11-01T16:03:30Z")

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On the 23% part it doesn’t matter if Kuss is still with him. Teammates don’t help at those gradients.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2020-allez/918985/232 "2020-11-01T16:05:30Z")

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Here we go.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2020-allez/918985/233 "2020-11-01T16:06:49Z")

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Dan looks done.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2020-allez/918985/234 "2020-11-01T16:07:18Z")

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So does Roglic. It’s Froome and Wiggins all over again. Kuss is looking like he’s not even trying.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2020-allez/918985/235 "2020-11-01T16:11:21Z")

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Look at Dan go!

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2020-allez/918985/236 "2020-11-01T16:13:25Z")

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Oh just let Kuss attack. C’mon!

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2020-allez/918985/237 "2020-11-01T16:16:08Z")

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Carthy?!? I wouldn’t have picked him to win this.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2020-allez/918985/238 "2020-11-01T16:19:26Z")

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Hah! So wiped out he can’t even celebrate properly.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2020-allez/918985/239 "2020-11-01T16:20:26Z")

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Did. Not. See. That. Coming.

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2020, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2020-allez/918985/240 "2020-11-01T16:22:16Z")

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Well, we got our day of racing.

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