# TdF2021 - ALLEZ!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** bicycling-cycling\
**Created:** [June 22, 2021, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839 "2021-06-22T14:42:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/21 "2021-06-26T14:24:29Z")

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Zero chance. I think the van der Poel/Alaphilippe group got back to the front and Quickstep has started riding again.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/22 "2021-06-26T14:30:09Z")

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JFC. Did you see that kid was nearly killed 100 yards before the crash. What is wrong with people?

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/23 "2021-06-26T14:32:17Z")

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Wouldn’t be Stage 1 of the Tour without some ridiculousness. Plus the fans have to make up for not being roadside last year.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/24 "2021-06-26T15:04:41Z")

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Now that’s a more traditional Stage 1 crash. Doubt they’ll be waiting this time.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/25 "2021-06-26T15:08:27Z")

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The Poulidor curse.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/26 "2021-06-26T15:13:52Z")

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Nicely timed attack by Alaphilippe there. Didn’t think it was going to stick actually, but no one else is getting close. He could win tomorrow, too.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/27 "2021-06-26T15:16:04Z")

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Roglic snags 4 bonus seconds.

Now we wait to see who lost time in that late crash.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/28 "2021-06-26T15:20:01Z")

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I think he’s (Alaphilippe) going to hang on to yellow for a while as well.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/29 "2021-06-26T15:23:40Z")

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If Froome didn’t have bad luck he’d have no luck at all. I wonder if he starts tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/30 "2021-06-26T15:35:07Z")

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I mean, the first two stages look like they were set up by someone who was thinking, “How can we give Julian the best chance of being in yellow for the first week?” Mission accomplished.

GC riders who’ve lost time unexpectedly:  
1’49"  
Superman Lopez  
Buchmann  
Kruijswijk  
Guillarme Martin

2’16"  
Ritchie Porte

3’17"  
Simon Yates

5’33"  
Valverde

Porte and Lopez the biggest losers. Not sure what happened with Porte - Ineos were on the left side at the front when that second crash started a bit further back on the right, so I wouldn’t have thought they’d have had anyone behind. ISN got really hammered in the crash. You’re right about Froome, he didn’t look healthy crossing the line. Michael Woods lost a ton of time too, which might be a huge blessing for him actually. He was never going to do well on GC with his supremely shitting ITT, and now he won’t be marked if he goes stage hunting. There are a few stages that look like they practically have his name written on them.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/31 "2021-06-26T18:08:34Z")

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With the exception of Ritchie Porte, none of these guys were a podium threat. I think Ritchie can make that time up by not losing any more time while others do. It’s possible. Long as none of the others are seriously injured, they will be back to doing the yeoman’s work of pulling their leaders up the climbs.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/32 "2021-06-26T18:55:01Z")

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Fun tour facts:  
What’s with TJV blue front tires?

> **[Blue tire mystery at Tour de France revealed](https://news.swapfiets.com/en-NL/200320-blue-tire-mystery-at-tour-de-france-revealed)**
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> Team Jumbo-Visma and Swapfiets jointly promote cycling in daily life. World-class race as unique opportunity to highlight why cycling is good for people and the environment. Swapcars concept of Swapfiets inspired by Tour de France service cars.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/33 "2021-06-26T18:59:05Z")

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I appreciate anything that helps me identify the teams.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/34 "2021-06-26T18:59:35Z")

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Lopez was absolutely a podium threat. Bit of an outside shot, but did have a legit shot if things broke his way. Could actually still podium but now needs even more things to break his way.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2021, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/35 "2021-06-26T20:08:31Z")

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I hope Omi & Opi can recommend a good lawyer:

> **[Spectator to be sued after Tour de France crash - France 24](https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210626-spectator-to-be-sued-after-tour-de-france-crash)**
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> Spectator to be sued after Tour de France crash

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2021, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/36 "2021-06-27T13:26:05Z")

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Most boring sprint ever.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2021, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/37 "2021-06-27T13:48:23Z")

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Who is this Shelling kid? Look at him go!

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2021, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/38 "2021-06-27T14:48:24Z")

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Dan Martin always reminds me of young [Shane MacGowan of the Pogues](https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-55102713).

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2021, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/39 "2021-06-27T14:51:14Z")

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Generally not quite as drunk.

Slightly surprised no one is drilling it to bring this break back before the Mur de Bretagne. There’s GC bonus points at the summit first time through.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2021, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/40 "2021-06-27T15:08:19Z")

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Jesus, this is cheek clenching.

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