# TdF2021 - ALLEZ!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** bicycling-cycling\
**Created:** [June 22, 2021, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839 "2021-06-22T14:42:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/101 "2021-07-03T12:37:56Z")

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Four groupettos (as Bob Roll likes to say). Poels is in full attack mode. Suffering in store for Roglic and Thomas. These guys are incredibly tough but they’ve got to be wondering wether the best of the race is behind them.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/102 "2021-07-03T13:24:46Z")

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WTF are they talking about? Roglic lost like 20% of his skin in that crash and Thomas is seriously damaged as well. They’re losing time because they’re seriously injured, not because they haven’t put in a large enough effort into the early racing season.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/103 "2021-07-03T13:30:38Z")

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Honestly, Roglic should abandon and prep for the Vuelta.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/104 "2021-07-03T13:33:52Z")

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SWEET! Valverde still in the lead group.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/105 "2021-07-03T13:39:01Z")

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If I’m not mistaken, Simon Yates is a hot weather climber. I don’t think he’ll attack today.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/106 "2021-07-03T14:21:14Z")

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Long way out to attack for someone who doesn’t actually need time.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/107 "2021-07-03T14:32:09Z")

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Yeah, I don’t know why he continues to burn energy.

I suppose time gained now is time he won’t need to gain in later stages when things aren’t quite this chaotic.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/108 "2021-07-03T14:42:54Z")

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Well, he doesn’t have the team to ride from the front the way Roglic did last year, or as is traditional for Ineos/Sky. So I guess he’s figuring attacking is the way to go, so if a stage later gets out of hand he has a cushion and doesn’t have to depend on Majka & McNulty being able to outclimb Porte and Carapaz.

Pretty clear at this point who the strongest rider is, though.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/109 "2021-07-03T14:45:23Z")

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Who’s in that Chase 1 group of 4 riders?

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/110 "2021-07-03T14:47:39Z")

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I think Woods has cracked.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/111 "2021-07-03T14:50:15Z")

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It’s not really a group. According to letour website data they’re all over the place. But nearest behind aside from Teuns is Ion Izaguirre and Simon Yates, and then a ways further back to Wout Poels and Guillarme Martin. But Pogacar is charging through all these guys.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/112 "2021-07-03T14:51:57Z")

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My video stream appears to be about a minute behind letour live data so I should probably stop checking it.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/113 "2021-07-03T14:55:11Z")

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He’s just in an entirely different league.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/114 "2021-07-03T14:56:40Z")

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Roglic might have been on par. He beat Pog at the Tour of the Basque Country, was it? Including putting 30s into him in a short ITT.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/115 "2021-07-03T14:58:35Z")

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Hah! Tadej now in line for time bonuses at the top of the climb and the stage finish.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/116 "2021-07-03T15:09:01Z")

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Tuens has a deathwish.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/117 "2021-07-03T15:10:45Z")

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I think Teuns will make it. Pogacar won’t go in full risk mode, he’s happy to get yellow and doesn’t need the stage win.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/118 "2021-07-03T15:12:29Z")

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Sounds like Carapaz is making some gains.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/119 "2021-07-03T15:13:16Z")

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Won’t comfort him after having been eaten alive by Pogacar.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/120 "2021-07-03T15:17:27Z")

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Well, that was impressive.

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