# TdF2021 - ALLEZ! **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** bicycling-cycling\ **Created:** [June 22, 2021, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839 "2021-06-22T14:42:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/141 "2021-07-03T16:27:01Z")
Kessenhammer ist just around the corner from me. I last camped there a few years ago with some friends and their children. It’s a nice camping ground directly at the lake. I learned swimming there when I was seven. Yeah, and we have many Dutch tourists here. ---
**Author:** ![Drsunflower1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drsunflower1/32/12711_2.png) [@Drsunflower1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drsunflower1)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/142 "2021-07-03T16:34:11Z")
Of course. For me it’s been like 40 years back, but I remember. Maybe I’ll come back 😆 ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/143 "2021-07-03T16:34:57Z")
You’re welcome! It’s still nice here. ---
**Author:** ![Drsunflower1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drsunflower1/32/12711_2.png) [@Drsunflower1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drsunflower1)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/144 "2021-07-03T16:35:19Z")
Good to know 😊 Staying in Holland this year because of the Covid. Aber vielleicht nächstes Jahr! ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/145 "2021-07-03T16:43:47Z")
> [@Drsunflower1](#): > > a Dutch cyclist, Thijs Zonneveld, who advocate the building of a Dutch Mountain for cycling practice. If they dig a big hole and pile up the dirt into a mountain, they can start the climb at the bottom of the hole and the mountain need only be half as high ---
**Author:** ![Drsunflower1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drsunflower1/32/12711_2.png) [@Drsunflower1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drsunflower1)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/146 "2021-07-03T16:45:23Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > If they dig a big hole and pile up the dirt into a mountain, they can start the climb at the bottom of the hole and the mountain need only be half as high Idk what their strategy is, but keep in mind we’re already below sea level 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Drsunflower1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drsunflower1/32/12711_2.png) [@Drsunflower1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drsunflower1)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2021, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/147 "2021-07-03T16:48:23Z")
[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Un0VLiPKKyg/hqdefault.jpg "NITS In The Dutch Mountains") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un0VLiPKKyg) Sorry, couldn’t help myself 😆 ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2021, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/148 "2021-07-04T12:36:58Z")
I slept in this morning and am just tuning in. Is this deja vu? Reprise of stage past? ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2021, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/149 "2021-07-04T12:50:53Z")
Also the same nasty weather. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2021, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/150 "2021-07-04T12:52:34Z")
Nairo Quintana. There’s another blast from the past. I guess Roglic decided to sleep in as well. It’s for the best. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2021, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/151 "2021-07-04T12:54:51Z")
Yes, Roglic is out. No surprise there. Van Der Poel also, but for different reasons: he wants to take care of himself for the Olympics. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2021, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/152 "2021-07-04T13:07:49Z")
Po-ga-char. It’s Pogacar, Phil Liggett, you muppet. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2021, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/153 "2021-07-04T13:39:10Z")
I mean, he spent two decades saying ‘Voit’ for ‘Vogt’. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2021, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/154 "2021-07-04T13:56:11Z")
Which reminds me how much I miss Jens Voigt reporting from inside the race. Steve Porino can shove that IR temperature guage up his ass and fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2021, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/155 "2021-07-04T14:03:16Z")
So O’Connor in yellow today? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2021, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/156 "2021-07-04T14:05:18Z")
Bob Roll has turned into the tour riders’ mother. Zip up your jackets, kids! I love him. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2021, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/157 "2021-07-04T14:08:55Z")
@QuickSilver given the paucity of cycling nerds on here, if you want a place to chat while following the race, try Podium Cafe. Live thread for every major race, good knowledgable crowd over there, adult level of conversation. I’m “straw dog” over there. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2021, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/158 "2021-07-04T14:20:19Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Which reminds me how much I miss Jens Voigt reporting from inside the race. Voigt is co-commentator for Eurosport Germany which I follow. He’s always a joy to listen to. Competent, intelligent and funny. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2021, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/159 "2021-07-04T14:30:38Z")
“Guys, I’m tired of pulling.” “Brandon, Tadej’s in yellow. You have to pull.” “You guys are underestimating my commitment to taking a quick break.” ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2021, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839/160 "2021-07-04T14:48:04Z")
Quintana went for mountain points and has now tapped out. Hasn’t he always been a punchy climber? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tdf2021-allez/944839.md?page=9)