# Tea Partier to head CIA

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partier-to-head-cia/772329>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 18, 2016, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partier-to-head-cia/772329 "2016-11-18T15:44:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partier-to-head-cia/772329/1 "2016-11-18T15:44:40Z")

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Trump has appointed far right-winger [Mike Pompeo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Pompeo) to head the CIA. Lifelong member of the NRA, of course. He want not only wants to keep Gitmo open, when he came back from a visit there, of prisoners that were on a hunger strike he said. “It looked to me like a lot of them had put on weight.”  
A real class act.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partier-to-head-cia/772329/2 "2016-11-18T15:57:22Z")

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Some other positions he has are also bothersome to me:

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> Pompeo is strongly opposed to abortion, except in cases when the mother’s life is at risk. He does not support abortion in cases of rape and incest.

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> Pompeo rejects the scientific consensus on climate change.[24] In 2013, he said, “There are scientists who think lots of different things about climate change. There’s some who think we’re warming, there’s some who think we’re cooling, there’s some who think that the last 16 years have shown a pretty stable climate environment.”

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> Pompeo opposes the Affordable Care Act.

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> Pompeo supported the federal Government shutdown of 2013, blaming President Obama while acknowledging that the Republican Party could take a hit from the shutdown. He stated that he believed the shutdown was necessary to avoid a predicted “American financial collapse 10 years from now.” In January 2014, Pompeo voted against a two-year budget deal drafted by Paul Ryan that would avert any government shutdown until 2015 and cut deficits by $23 billion.

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> Pompeo supports the National Security Agency’s surveillance programs, characterizing the agency’s efforts as “good and important work.”

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> In February 2016, Pompeo said Snowden “should be brought back from Russia and given due process, and I think the proper outcome would be that he would be given a death sentence.”

That one is worrisome, given the job he’s about to step into, since it seems to indicate that he doesn’t really understand what “due process” is.

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> Pompeo has advocated for rolling back post-Snowden surveillance reforms, saying “Congress should pass a law re-establishing collection of all metadata, and combining it with publicly available financial and lifestyle information into a comprehensive, searchable database. Legal and bureaucratic impediments to surveillance should be removed. That includes Presidential Policy Directive-28, which bestows privacy rights on foreigners and imposes burdensome requirements to justify data collection.”

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> In a 2013 speech on the House floor, Pompeo said Muslim leaders who fail to denounce acts of terrorism done in the name of Islam are “potentially complicit” in the attacks.

:eek:

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partier-to-head-cia/772329/3 "2016-11-18T16:06:42Z")

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Shaping up to be the most interesting Cabinet we’ve seen in a long time.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partier-to-head-cia/772329/4 "2016-11-18T16:15:13Z")

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Euphemism has limits, you know.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partier-to-head-cia/772329/5 "2016-11-18T16:35:34Z")

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May you live in euphemistic times.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partier-to-head-cia/772329/6 "2016-11-18T16:39:29Z")

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Nothing will beat hiring the Montesano attorney as senior advisor to the FDA Comissioner unless of course Chris Christie get Secretary of Transportation.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partier-to-head-cia/772329/7 "2016-11-18T16:48:22Z")

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Do you mean Monsanto?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partier-to-head-cia/772329/8 "2016-11-18T16:49:34Z")

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ninja’d.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partier-to-head-cia/772329/9 "2016-11-18T16:51:53Z")

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You got to get up pretty early in the afternoon to beat me!

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partier-to-head-cia/772329/10 "2016-11-18T16:59:05Z")

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I see Bannon’s greasy little paws all over these appointments. Trump is clearly putting no thought into any of it while he plans his ‘victory tour’.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partier-to-head-cia/772329/11 "2016-11-18T17:03:30Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I see Bannon’s greasy little paws all over these appointments. Trump is clearly putting no thought into any of it while he plans his ‘victory tour’.

I wonder if Judge Curiel will have a part in planning the itinerary.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partier-to-head-cia/772329/12 "2016-11-18T17:24:01Z")

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> You got to get up pretty early in the afternoon to beat me!

Can I pencil you in for a 5:15 am beating, then?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partier-to-head-cia/772329/13 "2016-11-18T17:25:46Z")

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Oh, and that “Let’s step back and give Trump a chance” crap?

It is _over_.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partier-to-head-cia/772329/14 "2016-11-18T17:30:15Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I see Bannon’s greasy little paws all over these appointments. Trump is clearly putting no thought into any of it while he plans his ‘victory tour’.

Trump doesn’t have time for such petty details. Too busy making America Great Again. That’s why he has “people”-- to do the actual work. Bannon might turn out to be the new Mrs. Woodrow Wilson. :eek:

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partier-to-head-cia/772329/15 "2016-11-18T17:31:41Z")

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Of course! Look, about forty per cent of the eligible public did not vote for Hillary, because they didn’t vote at all! And Il Douche got almost as many votes as she did! Only about a million off, which is pretty darn close! Put those numbers together, and you got a total _mandate_ for the Republican Party to take this country anywhere they want!

Besides, if Trump really had wanted to win the popular vote, he would have campaigned more in New York and California, and would have won them easily!

(No, I am _not_ making that up! He actually said that!)

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partier-to-head-cia/772329/16 "2016-11-18T17:34:55Z")

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> Of course! Look, about forty per cent of the eligible public did not vote for Hillary, because they didn’t vote at all! And Il Douche got almost as many votes as she did! Only about a million off, which is pretty darn close! Put those numbers together, and you got a total _mandate_ for the Republican Party to take this country anywhere they want!
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> Besides, if Trump really had wanted to win the popular vote, he would have campaigned more in New York and California, and would have won them easily!
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> (No, I am _not_ making that up! He actually said that!)

Well, he’s already won my heart. And by ‘heart’, I mean ‘everlasting loathing’.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partier-to-head-cia/772329/17 "2016-11-18T17:44:41Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Oh, and that “Let’s step back and give Trump a chance” crap?
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> It is _over_.

What are you going to do about it? Whine about it here? Smash some windows in Portland? Burn down a Little Caesars?

Elections have consequences.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partier-to-head-cia/772329/18 "2016-11-18T17:45:41Z")

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Not when there’s a Supreme Court nomination at stake.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partier-to-head-cia/772329/19 "2016-11-18T18:08:13Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> What are you going to do about it? Whine about it here? Smash some windows in Portland? Burn down a Little Caesars?
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> Elections have consequences.

Don’t we know it.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2016, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partier-to-head-cia/772329/20 "2016-11-18T18:12:52Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> What are you going to do about it? Whine about it here? Smash some windows in Portland? Burn down a Little Caesars?
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> Elections have consequences.

We didn’t elect an emperor, did we? We can still let those who represent us in Congress know that there will be consequences if they roll over and play dead. We can give voice, and funds, to the Fourth Estate. We can quit acting like lobsters in a pot, willing to accept indignity after indignity just because we are too overwhelmed to fight. We can quit accepting the easy way out, the response that tells us what we want to hear without the hard facts to back them up, that answers that absolve us from responsibility by placing it on the backs of demonized “others”.  
You say “Elections have consequences” as if those consequences absolve you of responsibility of what follows. I say the consequences of not doing enough( or not doing the right things) to stop this abomination is that there is an even _greater_ responsibility to work _harder_ to put right what goes wrong, to shine the light and display the headline, to never let up on the pressure.

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