# Tea partiers in Oklahoma want to start their own militias **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 13, 2010, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partiers-in-oklahoma-want-to-start-their-own-militias/535928 "2010-04-13T05:13:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partiers-in-oklahoma-want-to-start-their-own-militias/535928/41 "2010-04-13T20:49:06Z")
You would think that Oklahoma would know better than this. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partiers-in-oklahoma-want-to-start-their-own-militias/535928/42 "2010-04-13T20:54:01Z")
Well, McVeigh didn’t blow anything up until he _quit_ the militia… ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partiers-in-oklahoma-want-to-start-their-own-militias/535928/43 "2010-04-13T21:06:21Z")
[QUOTE=Wesley Clark;12335179So we went from Palin being the most extreme face of the GOP, to politicians openly supporting efforts at domestic terrorism in 1.5 years … These people never gave a shit about federal intrusions when Bush was in office. No Child Left Behind, Medicare part D, PATRIOT ACT, wiretaps, detention of US citizens, etc and not a peep. But let a black guy get elected president and pass a bill fining them if they don’t buy health insurance and all of a sudden they care about the constitution. How convenient. [/QUOTE] Actually, these people really DID give a shit about NCLB, PATRIOT, and the deficit. It just doesn’t jibe with your selective memory because it doesn’t let you paint them as blithering idiots, like you’re so fond of doing. Seriously, how can you forget the uproar over PATRIOT from the right wing? Are you that fucking slow? And you’ve really REALLY got to get over the whole “but he’s black” thing. It’s 2010. Move on. No one gives a shit if he’s black or not. You’re making shit up about racism and backing it up with “oh come on, you know they are. You know.” > [@Gyrate](#): > > While I agree that the charges of “racism” are flung far too freely, you can’t deny that it is a factor with many of these groups even if the racial difference only serves to emphasize the “otherness” of Obama. I can deny it. I do, in fact, deny it. What now? What? _What?_ ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partiers-in-oklahoma-want-to-start-their-own-militias/535928/44 "2010-04-13T21:08:43Z")
No one gives a shit that the president’s black – that’s your position, seriously? ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partiers-in-oklahoma-want-to-start-their-own-militias/535928/45 "2010-04-13T21:09:54Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > At the end of the day, they’re just pathetic and impotent, not a real danger. Plus, they’re mostly all talk. When push comes to shove, none of them (except the most unhinged psychopaths) are ever actually going to try to get in a firefight with anybody, as entertaining as it would be to watch them try. Exactly. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Most of these folks don’t have the balls to do anything more than a strap a gun to their hip and _pretend_ to be badasses. As an example look no further than the guy who got arrested for making death threats to Nancy Pelosi. The moment he showed up in court he started crying like the little beeyotch that he is. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partiers-in-oklahoma-want-to-start-their-own-militias/535928/46 "2010-04-13T21:24:26Z")
This I gotta see. The Oklahoma Shit-Kicker Militia vs. the US military in a fight for our “freedom”. What’s the line on this matchup? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partiers-in-oklahoma-want-to-start-their-own-militias/535928/47 "2010-04-13T21:25:22Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > Exactly. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Most of these folks don’t have the balls to do anything more than a strap a gun to their hip and _pretend_ to be badasses. > As an example look no further than the guy who got arrested for making death threats to Nancy Pelosi. The moment he showed up in court he started crying like the little beeyotch that he is. Yeah, individually most of these piss-ants are about as dangerous as a marshmallow. The trouble is, when you get a large group of marshmallows together and set them on fire, somebody’s bound to get burned. Mob mentality can make the meekest Milquetoast a monster. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partiers-in-oklahoma-want-to-start-their-own-militias/535928/48 "2010-04-13T21:33:51Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > My guess; just like Clinton was in office, you’ll see them get crazier and crazier until some of them flame out in violent spectacles like Timothy McVeigh, at which point they’ll die down in embarrassment for a few years. [While the RW blames the Dems for provoking it all.](http://www.salon.com/entertainment/comics/this_modern_world/2010/04/06/this_modern_world/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partiers-in-oklahoma-want-to-start-their-own-militias/535928/49 "2010-04-13T21:34:31Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > The sooner this meme dies away the better. > > The difference, which you and many others fail to see, is that one directly effects people right in the wallet while the others are generally passive and do not have a direct effect. Have any of your friends or family members been taken away? Have you been placed under investigation? But you have been levied with a bill, tax, penalty, whatever you want to call it, and you always notice that. Yes, it is indeed financial armageddon, as we’ve been told over and over and over again by the righties. And it’s obvious, isn’t it? I mean, look at the stock market, which has plunge. . .oh wait, no it hasn’t. Well, then, at least job losses have escalated to new. . .oops, nope, not that either. Then surely, the real estate market has continuted to. . .hmmmmm. On second thought, it almost looks like a financial recovery of some sort is in progress. Also, I have a question for you: how would you know if you’ve been placed under investigation? How would you know if someone is reading your emails, eavesdropping on your conversations or reading your mail? ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Lance_Murdoch)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partiers-in-oklahoma-want-to-start-their-own-militias/535928/50 "2010-04-13T21:36:21Z")
I got several phone calls from the middle east during Bush’s warrantless wiretapping era. There was no Tea Party worried about that. There were a hell of a lot of conservatives though who thought it was treasonous of the media to report the story, however. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partiers-in-oklahoma-want-to-start-their-own-militias/535928/51 "2010-04-13T21:42:42Z")
> [@Chessic Sense](#): > > And you’ve really REALLY got to get over the whole “but he’s black” thing. It’s 2010. Move on. No one gives a shit if he’s black or not. The [“Obama is a nigger”](http://www.smartpunters.com/obamaisanigger/) blogger seems to find it important: > [@](#): > > If you were one of the lucky nigger-loving ass monkeys that saw a tea party member slam these apes that passed healthcare then get your butt over to [biggovernment.com](http://biggovernment.com) and collect your $10,000. The folks at [The Daily Nigger](http://www.thedailynigger.com/) are getting quite a bit of mileage out of it too. (Yes, they disclaim any racial prejudice and state that they’ve adopted the term “nigger” to describe everybody oppressed by government, but they have no problem with direct racial slurs on Obama: ) > [@](#): > > We see a dangerous prescription for disaster with the current media orgy over Barack Hussien Obomber and his porch monkey policies. The pro-Tea Party [Freedom Fighter’s Journal](http://ronbosoldier.blogspot.com/2010/02/what-boss-nigger-obama-has-planned-for.html) has no problem with using “nigger” non-ironically as a plain old racial insult, though: > [@](#): > > America has always been a beacon of hope and freedom throughout the world. As Lady Liberty raises her torch on the horizon, the American Tea Party movement has inspired the citizens of Great Britain to join the cause of less taxation and less government intrusion in our lives. […] > > What Boss Nigger Obama Has Planned For America [accompanying poster for pseudo-Western film “Boss Nigger”] Honestly, **Chessic Sense** , are you really this dumb or do you just think we are? It is painfully apparent from even the most cursory glance around the interwebs that there are a LOT of self-proclaimed anti-government Tea Party types who are indeed extremely bothered by the fact that Obama is black. > [@Chessic Sense](#): > > I can deny it. I do, in fact, deny it. What now? What? What? Now you are clearly exposed as either a liar or an idiot, or possibly both. Next question. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partiers-in-oklahoma-want-to-start-their-own-militias/535928/52 "2010-04-13T21:48:37Z")
> [@Frostillicus](#): > > This I gotta see. The Oklahoma Shit-Kicker Militia vs. the US military in a fight for our “freedom”. What’s the line on this matchup? I believe that the OSKM would set a new world record for “throwing down their weapons and reaching for the sky”, breaking the previous record held by the Republican Guard by more than 3 seconds. After that, reference **joebuck** ’s comment about them “crying like a little beeyotch.” ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partiers-in-oklahoma-want-to-start-their-own-militias/535928/53 "2010-04-13T23:56:47Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > The sooner this meme dies away the better. > > The difference, which you and many others fail to see, is that one directly effects people right in the wallet while the others are generally passive and do not have a direct effect. Have any of your friends or family members been taken away? Have you been placed under investigation? But you have been levied with a bill, tax, penalty, whatever you want to call it, and you always notice that. Even if this were true (see Camus’ post immediately following yours for the rebuttal), that makes them all the more contemptible. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partiers-in-oklahoma-want-to-start-their-own-militias/535928/54 "2010-04-14T01:25:43Z")
But what would happen if a bunch of Arab American’s, say in Detroit wanted to start a militia? Someone mentioned it up thread and I’m intrigued to know, what would happen? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partiers-in-oklahoma-want-to-start-their-own-militias/535928/55 "2010-04-14T01:34:51Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > The pro-Tea Party [Freedom Fighter’s Journal](http://ronbosoldier.blogspot.com/2010/02/what-boss-nigger-obama-has-planned-for.html) has no problem with using “nigger” non-ironically as a plain old racial insult, though: Even more telling is the story below the poster: “Today Zimbabwe Tomorrow America.” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partiers-in-oklahoma-want-to-start-their-own-militias/535928/56 "2010-04-14T02:38:58Z")
I’m Teapartycus! No, me! I’m Teapartycus! Bullshit! You’re not the real Teapartycus, I’m the _real_ Teapartycus… ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2010, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partiers-in-oklahoma-want-to-start-their-own-militias/535928/57 "2010-04-15T03:00:18Z")
As Keith Olberman pointed out tonight, if these dickwads were to form a state militia, under the US Constitution, the CinC of this militia would be… **President Barack Obama**. Heads will literally explode when the Constitution-loving shit-kickers realize this. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-partiers-in-oklahoma-want-to-start-their-own-militias/535928.md?page=2)