# Tea Party congressman only has 400k leftover!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-congressman-only-has-400k-leftover/596826>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 19, 2011, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-congressman-only-has-400k-leftover/596826 "2011-09-19T14:18:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-congressman-only-has-400k-leftover/596826/21 "2011-09-19T15:59:20Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> He’s not a plutocrat, but he’s representing them, and whining on their behalf. That’s 0.1% of the taxpayers he’s representing. The top of the pile. The richest of the rich. He’s basically saying that the other 99.9% can go to hell.

Hah! So you’re saying that he should favor the 99.9% over the 0.1%? They’ll just spend the money on abortions and crack!

-Joe

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-congressman-only-has-400k-leftover/596826/22 "2011-09-19T15:59:49Z")

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Show him bitching, put a card asking “Every American making two times what this weasel makes will have his taxes unchanged by President Obama’s tax plan.” and then “How rich do you need to be to suffer at all under President Obama’s plan?” “Richer than you are now? Vote Democratic 2012.”

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-congressman-only-has-400k-leftover/596826/23 "2011-09-19T16:02:27Z")

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“I’m Barack Obama, and I approve this message, except the part that’s insulting to weasels.”

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**Author:** ![BlinkingDuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BlinkingDuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlinkingDuck)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-congressman-only-has-400k-leftover/596826/24 "2011-09-19T16:10:31Z")

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> [@Mr.Moto](#):
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> Okay, let’s all calm down.
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> Let’s look at what Representative Fleming has done. He is a doctor who served in the Navy to finance his education

I get so sick of these doctors that suck at the public teat and then don’t want to give anything back.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-congressman-only-has-400k-leftover/596826/25 "2011-09-19T16:11:58Z")

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> [@Mr.Moto](#):
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> **BTW. I don’t know exactly what he said** but the general description above doesn’t seem remarkable to me in the least.

Bolding mine. You don’t even go through the motions anymore, do you?

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-congressman-only-has-400k-leftover/596826/26 "2011-09-19T16:12:13Z")

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> [@Acid\_Lamp](#):
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> Poor Poor fucking Baby. No I don’t have a link, [Find it your damn self.](http://lmgtfy.com/)
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> One of the Congressman Tea baggers was just on CNN discussing Obama’s to be unveiled tax hikes on the “job creators”. Turns out, that after he pays for all his business expenses he only has about 600K leftover! After he “feeds his family” he only has 400k leftover to play with, reinvest etc! POOR BABY! how does he cope?😕 His children must be in potato sacks and shoeless. Surely they never attend the dentist or doctor. I mean, if you only have _ **eight times the average total income of a two income family** _ left over in _profits_ at the end of the year that is a terrible situation. My god, a few thousand dollars out of that will bankrupt this country and put him into a shelter I’m certain. He will be reduced to sucking cock for nickels in the gutter while we all tie an onion to our belts and dance the socialist rag!
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> Class warfare my ass. I’m starting to think that real warfare might be a better option.

I think you are confused on the virtues of LMGTFY. If you’re the person bringing a topic into consideration, it behooves you to provide the first link – particularly if you are too fucking lazy to even NAME THE PERSON you are pitting.

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**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-congressman-only-has-400k-leftover/596826/27 "2011-09-19T16:23:05Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> Ah, so he mooched off the government then.

I don’t think I have ever found myself on the same side of a politics debate as **Mr. Moto** , but to say that military personnel who use their benefits to go to school is “mooching off the government” is ridiculous. They have to commit several years of their lives to the military, potentially putting themselves in combat.

If you’re trying to imply that a Tea Partier is hypocritical because they used a government benefit, I don’t think that it’s the position of the Tea Party that the military or the benefits of those that serve in the military aren’t a legitimate arena for the federal government.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-congressman-only-has-400k-leftover/596826/28 "2011-09-19T16:38:37Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> - He spends $200,000 a year to “feed his family”. Must be a hell of a large family, or they eat like pigs…

Have you seen the price of truffles these days? Oh, wait, no, of course you haven’t.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-congressman-only-has-400k-leftover/596826/29 "2011-09-19T16:40:13Z")

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> [@Acid\_Lamp](#):
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> Go find it yourself. Go pull up those bootstraps! Get going! I guarantee you I didn’t twist his words up in the least.

You can type your outrage, you can imbed links, you can post follow-up crap in your thread, but you tell everyone else to find whatever the hell it is you’re talking about? Get bent.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-congressman-only-has-400k-leftover/596826/30 "2011-09-19T16:41:47Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Bolding mine. You don’t even go through the motions anymore, do you?

The OP seems to be telling people to go through his motions for him. That makes **Mr. Moto** look like a champion weightlifter.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-congressman-only-has-400k-leftover/596826/31 "2011-09-19T16:44:20Z")

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Maybe he doesn’t have internet access? Oh, wait. Never mind.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-congressman-only-has-400k-leftover/596826/32 "2011-09-19T16:45:44Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> The OP seems to be telling people to go through his motions for him. That makes **Mr. Moto** look like a champion weightlifter.

[Here’s a link](http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/09/19/322405/gop-rep-whines-400k/) with an embedded video cllp of the MSNBC interview.

Now kindly shut the fuck up and stop trying to divert this thread into the failings of **Acid Lamp’s** posting style. Thank you ever so much.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-congressman-only-has-400k-leftover/596826/33 "2011-09-19T16:48:31Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> [Here’s a link](http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/09/19/322405/gop-rep-whines-400k/) with an embedded video cllp of the MSNBC interview.
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> Now kindly shut the fuck up and stop trying to divert this thread into the failings of **Acid Lamp’s** posting style. Thank you ever so much.

Discussing **Acid Lamp** ’s posting style was entirely appropriate. He provided no information in the OP that could be used to determine what the hell was talking about—not even the name of the congressman or the correct (judging from your link) network on which the interview took place. That wasn’t arguing; it was taking a dump.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-congressman-only-has-400k-leftover/596826/34 "2011-09-19T16:48:35Z")

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> [@cckerberos](#):
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> Shortsighted? sure. Greedy? maybe. Selfish? not really.
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> It’s more selfish to expect someone to fork over more cash so that it can be spent on things you want than for someone to want to keep their own money.

Rep. John Fleming can damn well fork over more cash to pay for the fucking wars that his party started and paid for by putting them on the charge cards.

But he does not make over a million/year so he has nothing to worry about. He’s about as smart as Joe the Plumber who was offended at taxes because he might make money someday.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-congressman-only-has-400k-leftover/596826/35 "2011-09-19T16:49:43Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Discussing **Acid Lamp** ’s posting style was entirely appropriate. He provided no information in the OP that could be used to determine what the hell was talking about—not even the name of the congressman or the correct (judging from your link) network on which the interview took place. That wasn’t arguing; it was taking a dump.

You now have a link. Shut up and go post your bitching about Acid Lamp in a pit thread of your own making.

Or perhaps you’d like to take a stab at defending the idiocy that is Rep. John Fleming instead?

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-congressman-only-has-400k-leftover/596826/36 "2011-09-19T16:49:50Z")

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> [@HookerChemical](#):
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> … a Tea Partier is hypocritical because they used a government benefit, I don’t think that it’s the position of the Tea Party that the military or the benefits of those that serve in the military aren’t a legitimate arena for the federal government.

I don’t know if “hypocrisy” is the issue here, but a legitimate point is that TPers (and all anti-Federal spending rhetoric) INCLUDES issues like such benefits when they’re making rhetorical hay, like “The Fedrul gummints spents a hundred-eleventeen gadzillion of your tax dollars on worthless crap,” failing to mention that over half of that hundred-eleventeen gadzillion is mandated by law, another quarter is equally mandatory repayment of moneys that past (often Republican) administrations have borrowed, and that most of the remaining quarter consists of programs like paying for the education of military doctors which they heartily approve of, leaving a tiny fraction of that larger figure up for grabs. If they want to argue about that sliver of specific programs, they might well find a legitimate argument there, and they might be surprised by which benefits they’d be sorry to lose themselves. But they’re not interested in having a real discussion–they’re interested in stirring the pot, and getting Americans to act out the imaginary grievances that gather votes for TP candidates.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-congressman-only-has-400k-leftover/596826/37 "2011-09-19T16:59:06Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Now kindly shut the fuck up and stop trying to divert this thread into the failings of **Acid Lamp’s** posting style. Thank you ever so much.

My hero!

Now, in **Acid Lamp** style, if you could just actually open the link for me, that would be great. I’m kind of too lazy to do it myself.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-congressman-only-has-400k-leftover/596826/38 "2011-09-19T17:05:40Z")

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Wow. A guy serves his country, becomes a doctor, then starts businesses that employ a bunch of people and people are mad at him. With revenues of over $6 million collectively, he is left with 600k. He uses $200k for his family living expenses and has 400k left over to reinvest in his businesses, and a bunch of losers whine about how evil he is. Here’s a newsflash douche bags, a ten percent profit margin is just okay. Most businesses shoot for twenty. This is rightly concerned that he’s only left with less than 7% to reinvest in what he has or open more stores. You should be holding this guy up as a model citizen for all. But, no—whaaaaahhh—it’s HNDREDS of THOUSANDS of dollars :eek:, and he’s a republican.

You guys have some fucked up priorities. Never mind great ignorance on how small businessmen operate and how they create jobs. How can people be as stupid as you and figure out how to log-in. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![rogerbox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@rogerbox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rogerbox)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-congressman-only-has-400k-leftover/596826/39 "2011-09-19T17:07:37Z")

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You’re right. Ergo, tax hikes for teachers and smack that foodstamp out of single mom’s hand, Mister 600K can’t afford a DIME MORE.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-congressman-only-has-400k-leftover/596826/40 "2011-09-19T17:34:09Z")

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Can someone help me out with some information on business taxation here?

Say i have a company with $6 million in revenue, and that, after paying all the existing expenses for this business (wages, merchandise, rent, etc., etc.) there is $600,000 left over. And say i want to use $400,000 of that money to “reinvest in what [i have] or open more stores” ( **magellan01** ’s words).

I was under the impression that, by putting this money back into the business, it would count as an expense of the business, and thus would reduce the reportable profit of the business, and thus would not be taxable income.

Is that correct, or am i misunderstanding how taxes on small business work.

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