Tea Party Pub: "The Republican Party doesn't want black people to vote . . ."

[YogSothoth]

To me, the problem isn’t that blacks are voting or voting 9-1 for Democrats, its that we’re not getting that 1 guy.

[BrainGlutton]

@ElvisL1ves

But the notion of actually trying to persuade them to vote Republican? They haven’t gotten to that yet.

Well, there’s only three ways I can see:

1. Change what the GOP is and stands for.

2. Change what the blacks want.

3. Convince the blacks that the Republican agenda in its present form is good for them.

4. ain’t gonna fly.

[Chimera]

How’s that Minority Outreach thing working out for you guys?

[Kimstu]

@Chimera

How’s that Minority Outreach thing working out for you guys?

Well, the Virginia GOP has put Bishop E. W. Jackson, Republican nominee for Lieutenant Governor, on the case:

There are a few reasons this old-fashioned minister became national news […] and one is that that’s what happens when you win a major party’s nomination after saying that gays are “frankly very sick people” and that the president “clearly has Muslim sensibilities” and that African-Americans need to end their “slavish devotion” to the Democratic party.

Jackson campaigned last fall in Virginia’s US Senate race; in the Republican primary, he won 5% of the vote.

Yes, this is pretty much the best the Republican Party can do when it comes to wooing support from blacks. At least, ever since they chased away Colin Powell and his ilk for being too moderate and reasonable.

[Eonwe]

I don’t think this was racist, but I ask my Republican frieds to ask themselves to consider:

Are you proud to participate in a party that wishes American Democracy was less representative for the sake of retaining/gaining power? I would vote against any Democrat who said that about any demographic.

[Little_Nemo]

@Chimera

How’s that Minority Outreach thing working out for you guys?

For some reason the “vote for us or else” program doesn’t seem to be working.

[Darth_Panda]

@BrainGlutton

Relevant GD thread of mine from 2011: “Get-out-the-vote and voter suppression are not equally legitimate political tactics”

I think using words to try to convince people not to vote for the other guy, even if you know that person won’t vote for you, is acceptable. I wouldn’t consider it voter suppression, and that’s all I was referring to in my post. I’m completely opposed to voter ID requirements, pol taxes, and anyting else that represents an attempt to make it difficult for anyone to vote. But I completely support a candidate’s right to try to convince people to not vote for his or her opponent, even if that means they don’t vote for anyone at all.

[Werekoala]

Nobody who votes spends much time thinking “Ah, Democracy, the sweet wine of freedom, and I’m having a glass now!” - they’re thinking “I hope that other fucker doesn’t win.”.

As such, I posit that most voters, if given pause to actually think about it, would be prefectly happy if people who supported their opponent didn’t vote, regardless of any other factors.

[Kimstu]

@Werekoala

Nobody who votes spends much time thinking “Ah, Democracy, the sweet wine of freedom, and I’m having a glass now!” - they’re thinking “I hope that other fucker doesn’t win.”.

Which is exactly why our official position on voting access should be consciously idealistic and egalitarian, rather than just encouraging those baser instincts of competitiveness. “May the dirtiest dog win, as long as he’s our dog” is not appropriate as an official party position.

[Lobohan]

@Shodan

No, that wasn’t unclear in the slightest. The “problem” is exactly what clearly stated - that blacks vote for Democrats in near-unanimity. Since Republicans want to be elected, they want people to vote for them, or not vote at all.

On reflection, this is a waste of time - you will just lie about it. You stupid troll.

Regards,
Shodan

Can you dudes imagine how sickening it must be to be Shodan?

To be so broken and bereft of common decency that you cheer racism and make excuses to support keeping your contrymen from voting?

He dishonors the Joe Dirt Mullet that he wears so proudly. For shame.

For shame,
Lobohan

[JRDelirious]

@Chimera

How’s that Minority Outreach thing working out for you guys?

To be fair, under the Bushes they were not doing too badly – alas, W proceeded to get himself somewhat discredited among the “movement conservatives”, and the hardline backlash proceeded to undo much of what was done.

[Voyager]

@Werekoala

Nobody who votes spends much time thinking “Ah, Democracy, the sweet wine of freedom, and I’m having a glass now!” - they’re thinking “I hope that other fucker doesn’t win.”.

As such, I posit that most voters, if given pause to actually think about it, would be prefectly happy if people who supported their opponent didn’t vote, regardless of any other factors.

No - I might vote for someone with little chance of winning, but still be happy to do so because it shows my support. Unless you believe in one party rule, the ability for anyone to vote and the willingness to abide by the results is far more important than who wins a particular election.
Now, wishing is fine, but the GOP has clearly done more than just wish - they went full out for vote suppression. It backfired on them in the last election. Really, trying to suppress the black vote and then wondering why they lost big?
Anyone wishing to suppress any legitimate votes is worse than a traitor.

[Voyager]

@JRDelirious

To be fair, under the Bushes they were not doing too badly – alas, W proceeded to get himself somewhat discredited among the “movement conservatives”, and the hardline backlash proceeded to undo much of what was done.

Bush made the mistake of trying to get the Hispanic vote by supporting polices which might have gotten Republicans more of the Hispanic vote. That didn’t work well for him, and it took two losses for some Republicans to wake up. It is not clear if enough have.

[JRDelirious]

@Voyager

Bush made the mistake of trying to get the Hispanic vote by supporting polices which might have gotten Republicans more of the Hispanic vote.

Yeah, really, what was he thinking, the nerve…

[BrainGlutton]

@Voyager

Bush made the mistake of trying to get the Hispanic vote by supporting polices which might have gotten Republicans more of the Hispanic vote. That didn’t work well for him, and it took two losses for some Republicans to wake up. It is not clear if enough have.

Well, that’s the Pubs’ real problem nowadays, isn’t it? Their own base. Their all-but-all-white RW/Tea Party/paleocon-and-theocon base. It is quite a sizeable base and quite a zealous base; but it is not sizeable enough to carry elections alone outside of solid-red counties, and it is deeply alienating to practically any voter who is not in it, including many lifelong Pubs.

RWs. Can’t win with 'em, can’t win without 'em.

[elucidator]

And we told them so. We sat right here and advised them, this unholy alliance between Big Money and the Troglodyte Right must founder, sooner or later, because BM cannot give them what BM kept promising them.

I suspect that the Pubbies will thrash about for a while looking for a better alternative, but then will settle back to “voter fraud” to explain how they keep losing despite having a solid majority of Americans in agreement.

(Sooner or later, Obamacare will be able to sort them out and submit them for, ah, “processing”. The Soylent Majority, if you will…)

[irae]

Dear Republicans,

It appears that you’re attempting a makeover. Far be it from us to tell you how to do your jobs, but as subject matter experts we feel it’s our duty to inform you that the lipstick traditionally goes on the other end of the pig.

Regards,
The Folks at Revlon