# Tea Party vs. GOP thread 2014 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 6, 2014, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-vs-gop-thread-2014/687836 "2014-05-06T20:45:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2014, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-vs-gop-thread-2014/687836/162 "2014-05-21T18:09:16Z")
That’s not what Reid referred to in that statement. The President has already done the DREAM act adminstratively. Reid wants more. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2014, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-vs-gop-thread-2014/687836/163 "2014-05-21T18:28:17Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > That’s not what Reid referred to in that statement. The President has already done the DREAM act adminstratively. Reid wants more. The article does not refer to all illegal immigrants, or all deportations. Looking at the links-within-the-link, it’s clear they’re talking about trying to halt deportations of young immigrants who have not committed crimes, not halt all deportations. And even if it were all deportations, that is not support for open borders. So you are still very wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2014, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-vs-gop-thread-2014/687836/164 "2014-05-21T19:13:30Z")
Take the argument about voting to another thread, everybody. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2014, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-vs-gop-thread-2014/687836/165 "2014-05-21T22:42:44Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > What I’m worried about is that the establishment might try to undo things like earmark reform, or favor corporate bailouts. They will **always** favor corporate bailouts. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2014, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-vs-gop-thread-2014/687836/166 "2014-05-21T23:09:22Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > True, but while they are running for office, they are all anti-amnesty. Renee Ellmers won big and she supports immigration reform. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2014, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-vs-gop-thread-2014/687836/167 "2014-06-01T22:08:34Z")
Now Sue Lowden is clucking at her opponent for wearing a Boy Scout uniform in a photo advertisement. [url=[Lowden cries foul over Hutchison Boy Scout photo | News](http://www.reviewjournal.com/politics/lowden-cries-foul-over-hutchison-boy-scout-photo)]Cite. > [@](#): > > In a mailer sent to Nevada Republican households, Hutchison is shown, all smiles, wearing a Boy Scout leader uniform, surrounded by young Scouts, including two of his sons. > > Such wholesome photos of candidates are usually standard fare for political ads. > > The problem is, wearing the uniform for political purposes is a violation of the Scoutmaster’s handbook and Boy Scout policy, Lowden charged this week. The fucked up thing is, she deliberately accuses him of doing something _illegal_:[url=] > [@Sue Lowden](#): > > Hutchison Shreds Boy Scout Law to Aid Dishonest Campaign > There’s an old maxim in politics that the only law not broken in a campaign is Murphy’s Law. And in my opponent’s case, that even includes the Boy Scout Law! Now, one could hope that GOP voters would see through such a transparent attempt to smear him as a lawbreaker and possibly a criminal, and show disdain for anyone who would allow naked ambition to trump all other values at the polls by voting against her… but this is Nevada, and frankly it’s a tossup whether or not people will think it’s awesome that she shows such a strong offensive streak (yeah, I mean it both ways) or whether they realize she’s a crackpot who shouldn’t be left alone with a crockpot, let alone the state government. Anyway, GOP vs. TP happens here 10 June; can’t wait to see what happens between now and then! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2014, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-vs-gop-thread-2014/687836/168 "2014-06-01T22:30:37Z")
She’s right, at least as it pertains to the Scoutmaster’s Handbook: > [@](#): > > [Do not wear the uniform in situations that might > mistakenly imply an endorsement by the BSA of a > product, service, political candidate, or philosophy. > Scouts and Scouters are encouraged to take part > in political matters as private individuals but not > while wearing the uniform.](http://www.people.vcu.edu/~albest/Training/ScoutmasterHandbook2010.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2014, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-vs-gop-thread-2014/687836/169 "2014-06-01T23:21:22Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > She’s right, at least as it pertains to the Scoutmaster’s Handbook: Where she is wrong is in calling it a “law”, thus implying that her opponent is a criminal. It isn’t a law. It’s a rule. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2014, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-vs-gop-thread-2014/687836/170 "2014-06-02T00:24:25Z")
Eh, I think it’s clear from context that she doesn’t mean the sort of law that’s enforced by police. Organizations have bylaws. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2014, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-vs-gop-thread-2014/687836/171 "2014-06-04T19:59:13Z")
[The Mississippi GOP Senate primary](http://www.salon.com/2014/06/04/mississippi_gop_senate_primary_heading_for_runoff/) is now headed for a runoff (June 24) between Chris McDaniel (Tea Party) and Thad Cochran ([Not So Different](http://www.thenation.com/blog/180119/gop-civil-war-more-petty-wrangling-over-infinitesimal-ideological-distinctions)). ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-vs-gop-thread-2014/687836/172 "2014-06-05T00:31:26Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [The Mississippi GOP Senate primary](http://www.salon.com/2014/06/04/mississippi_gop_senate_primary_heading_for_runoff/) is now headed for a runoff (June 24) between Chris McDaniel (Tea Party) and Thad Cochran ([Not So Different](http://www.thenation.com/blog/180119/gop-civil-war-more-petty-wrangling-over-infinitesimal-ideological-distinctions)). That’s a good result for the Dems. They get to sit back and watch the mudslinging continue, draining resources their opponents won’t have for the general election. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-vs-gop-thread-2014/687836/173 "2014-06-05T02:20:57Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > That’s a good result for the Dems. They get to sit back and watch the mudslinging continue, draining resources their opponents won’t have for the general election. I’d like to agree with you, but I don’t think Mississippi is in play. Unless the Republican nominee is caught with a dead girl, live boy, or a goat I don’t see this seat turning blue. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-vs-gop-thread-2014/687836/174 "2014-06-05T03:21:42Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I’d like to agree with you, but I don’t think Mississippi is in play. Unless the Republican nominee is caught with a dead girl, live boy, or a goat I don’t see this seat turning blue. I disagree. It is a longshot, but it could happen. If McDaniel is the GOP nominee, the Dems have a decent chance for the upset. If Cochran is the GOP nominee, it’s going to be a lot tougher… (And I would not necessarily rule out a goat showing up at some point. This has been a nasty primary.) ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-vs-gop-thread-2014/687836/175 "2014-06-05T13:11:59Z")
[Bad week for SD Senate candidate Annette Bosworth.](http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2014/06/04/bosworth-senate-south-dakota-perjury-fraud/) Finished fourth of five candidates in the primary and then gets arrested on election fraud felonies. Another proud moment for the Teabag Set. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-vs-gop-thread-2014/687836/176 "2014-06-05T15:10:13Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [The Mississippi GOP Senate primary](http://www.salon.com/2014/06/04/mississippi_gop_senate_primary_heading_for_runoff/) is now headed for a runoff (June 24) between Chris McDaniel (Tea Party) and Thad Cochran ([Not So Different](http://www.thenation.com/blog/180119/gop-civil-war-more-petty-wrangling-over-infinitesimal-ideological-distinctions)). [The plot sickens:](http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2014/06/04/tea-party-official-locked-inside-courthouse/9963579/) > [@](#): > > The Hinds County Sheriff’s Department is investigating why three people, including a high-ranking Chris McDaniel campaign official, were found locked in the Hinds County Courthouse in Jackson hours after an election official says the building was closed early Wednesday morning. > > Hinds County Sheriff’s Department spokesman Othor Cain said investigators are trying to figure out how Janis Lane, Scott Brewster and Rob Chambers entered the courthouse. They were inside until about 3:45 a.m., Cain said. > > Brewster is a former coordinator of presidential candidate Newt Gingrich’s Mississippi operation and is currently McDaniel’s campaign coalition coordinator. > > “There are conflicting stories from the three of them, which began to raise the red flag, and we’re trying to get to the bottom of it,” Cain said. “No official charges have been filed at this point, but we don’t know where the investigation will lead us.” > > Brewster’s name popped up during the first days after conservative political blogger Clayton Kelly was arrested and charged in a photo scandal involving U.S. Sen. Thad Cochran’s bedridden wife, Rose. Kelly was accused of sneaking into Rose Cochran’s Madison nursing home and taking photos of her for a political video… ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-vs-gop-thread-2014/687836/177 "2014-06-05T16:04:22Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > (And I would not necessarily rule out a goat showing up at some point. This has been a nasty primary.) But live or dead, and in whose bed? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-vs-gop-thread-2014/687836/178 "2014-06-05T17:07:07Z")
As Mississippi is showing, the Tea Party is far from dead. Be good to get rid of one of the biggest porkers in the Senate. I’d sooner see a conservative Democrat in the seat than that porker Cochran. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-vs-gop-thread-2014/687836/179 "2014-06-05T17:15:26Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > As Mississippi is showing, the Tea Party is far from dead. Be good to get rid of one of the biggest porkers in the Senate. I’d sooner see a conservative Democrat in the seat than that porker Cochran. Why? You know porkbarrelling accounts for a negligible fraction of the budget. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-vs-gop-thread-2014/687836/180 "2014-06-05T18:00:55Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > As Mississippi is showing, the Tea Party is far from dead. I dunno. Maybe it is just me, but I’m getting a strong “Alamo” vibe from this election. If McDaniel loses, I think the Tea Party is done. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2014, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-vs-gop-thread-2014/687836/181 "2014-06-05T18:09:52Z")
Is _Mississippi_, of all damn places, \*really \*in play in November if this nihilist gets nominated? There could well be a national tsunami coming up, if that’s the case. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-vs-gop-thread-2014/687836.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tea-party-vs-gop-thread-2014/687836.md?page=10)