# Teabaggers mock man with Parkinson's **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 19, 2010, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009 "2010-03-19T14:29:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/241 "2010-03-23T14:06:27Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > Hey Curlcoat, > > Yeah. You. Sitting there alone in a dark room on the second floor of your McMansion with only the cold hum of the monitor as a reminder that someone, somewhere knows you’re alive. > > Guess what? > > We won. > > That’s right, we won. And you know what that means? > > It means I’m now legally able to come into your house, grab all your money, stick it in my ears and go “pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt.” > I can rape your dog and know full well that any diseases I contract are covered under my new health care plan from the money I just stole from you. > I can quit my job, rape your dog, steal your money and take it to go buy jack boots down at the local 5 and 10 with enough time left over to hit the nightly March of the Fascists. > I can steal your dog, rape your money, march with the Fascists, masturbate all over your napkin sandwiches, and cut my own spleen out knowing that the new healthcare of greatest nation on Earth will sustain me. All thanks to you. > > Thanks Curlcoat for being so awesome. I love wiping my butt with your hard earned money. I hope I get to steal lots and lots and lots more of it while the Democrats remain in power. I didn’t think you guys were supposed to admit this until after the mid-terms. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/242 "2010-03-23T14:17:56Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I didn’t think you guys were supposed to admit this until after the mid-terms. It’s all cool. Before then, we’re going to re-write the Constitution to send all people earning more than $250,000 a year before the Death Panels. You’ll be dreaming of the time when we were just a roving band of dog raping misfits. > [@Lobohan](#): > > Or he could troll message boards pretending to be a lawyer, that kills the hours doesn’t it? I seriously did a double take thinking this comment was directed towards me. That pretty much describes my life right now :). oh and sidenote: the multi-quote function actually puts them in the order in which you click them. Pretty cool. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/243 "2010-03-23T15:22:15Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Hey SFG and Blalron, those are some extremely good arguments. They are so good that I cannot refute them. You win. No shit, you doesn’t-even-know-a-fucking-enchilada-from-a-hole-in-the-ground retard. Here’s something else for you to chew on: not having government-sponsored health care is \*killing \*American companies that operate globally. If you want American companies to remain competitive with foreign ones, you should absolutely support shifting the cost of our citizens health care from their employers to the government. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/244 "2010-03-23T15:24:06Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Does **Rand Rover** really regard himself as particularly smart? > > Awww, that’s kind of cute! To be fair, **Rand** ’s kind of like **Curtis LeMay** : they’re both very clever for 13 year olds. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/245 "2010-03-23T15:26:19Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I didn’t think you guys were supposed to admit this until after the mid-terms. Mid-terms? What makes you think we are still having mid-terms? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/246 "2010-03-23T16:09:32Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Does **Rand Rover** really regard himself as particularly smart? > > Awww, that’s kind of cute! They’re just so \*precious \*at that age, aren’t they? ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/247 "2010-03-23T23:28:21Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Well, too bad, that’s the price of living in a functioning society and not a failed state. I’m sorry, I wasn’t aware that I had become responsible for your happiness. When did that happen? > [@](#): > > Of course not, they never did back before such protections existed. You must be quite young as it wasn’t all that long ago when things like buying on credit was only done for houses, or in emergencies. Most people didn’t go about buying things they couldn’t afford, or starting families before they had finished their educations and gotten good jobs. Shoot, we haven’t even had universal credit all that long (and no, I’m not going to waste my time looking it up). > [@](#): > > Not that society treats teen pregnancy as something to be celebrated; it just doesn’t treat it as something to be solved with a forced marriage, forced abortion or slavery anymore. Slavery? Forced abortion? I’ll agree with shotgun marriages, which is sort of a celebration in itself, but not the others. And unfortunately there are big sections of society that hold baby showers for pregnant teens, and who congratulate the pregnant teen on her soon to be “miracle”, not to mention all the government support they get. > [@](#): > > No, because such a society would be one where there is no responsibility at all. A society based of “personal responsibility” is the war of all against all. A society where everyone lies to, manipulates, extorts and exploits everyone else because they feel no responsibility towards anyone else. Wow. Just wow. Your definition of personal responsibility is to go forth and manipulate, extort and exploit? Where did you grow up that you think this, or that being personally responsible must mean that one feels no other responsibilities? > [@](#): > > The kind of guy who seduces a girl, then leaves her pregnant and unsupported? THAT is personal responsibility in action. What does he care what happens to her? It’s her problem. Snort. OK, we’ll assume he actually seduced her and somehow “left her pregnant” against her will, if she knows who he is he is also legally responsible for that baby. Whether or not he wanted it and took steps to prevent it. > [@](#): > > As opposed to what? Workhouses like the good old days? Forced abortions? Besides; concern for children is against the principle of personal responsibility; they aren’t you, so you owe them nothing, right? Where are you getting your ideas? How many pregnant teens ended up in workhouses or forced into abortion before, oh, the 1960’s? > [@](#): > > And by the way; the people opposing birth control ARE the ones who support “personal responsibility”. People who oppose birth control are either religious fascists, or misogynist. How they think it is any of their business if a woman decides to put off childbearing is beyond me. As is your idea that those who oppose BC are into personal responsibility, since the two have zero to do with each other. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/248 "2010-03-23T23:43:24Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Because those poor people greatly outnumber the rich and should, in a democracy\*, have more power than they do in the government. So it’s in their best interest to make them happy. **Diogenes the Cynic** is poor? Anyway, who has what power wasn’t the issue, it was **Diogenes the Cynic** expecting that these “rich people” should care about him, his feelings and his demands. > [@](#): > > I argue that the law exists to compel people to a certain code of ethics, as, in a society where we can’t count on a certain religion compelling people to be ethical, we have to supply other methods to keep people in line. It’s a result of our secular society that the government has to compel people to give to the poor and sick. I don’t agree with either religion or government _compelling_ people to give to anyone. Once you do that, you end up with a sub-set of society that expects that they will be taken care of and so do not have to hitch themselves to the plow as those who actually work for a living do. I have no problem with society taking care of those who truly cannot take care of themselves, but a large percentage of folks in the US work the system instead of working for a living. > [@](#): > > Seeing as Jesus agreed that taxes are ethical, the method we are using to compel more giving is itself ethical. I’m sorry, I couldn’t care less what Jesus’s opinions on the matter were. > [@Enderw24](#): > > We won. Time will tell if US society as a whole views the healthcare bill as a “win”. The rest of what you said, I really hope you know that none of it was true. With you guys, it can be very hard to tell. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/249 "2010-03-24T01:25:22Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > **Diogenes the Cynic** is poor? Middle class. > [@](#): > > Anyway, who has what power wasn’t the issue, it was **Diogenes the Cynic** expecting that these “rich people” should care about him, his feelings and his demands. No I didn’t. I don’t give shit one about what rivch people care about. You are making this up. It was **Bricker** who suggested that we shouldn’t tax rich people in order to better preserve their feelings of magnaninimity when they drop quarters in kettles. > [@](#): > > I don’t agree with either religion or government _compelling_ people to give to anyone. Once you do that, you end up with a sub-set of society that expects that they will be taken care of and so do not have to hitch themselves to the plow as those who actually work for a living do. I have no problem with society taking care of those who truly cannot take care of themselves, but a large percentage of folks in the US work the system instead of working for a living. This is a fraudulent and fantastic characterization of of basic civil responsibilities and necessary state functions. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/250 "2010-03-24T02:30:12Z")
So when can we start raping the cattle and stampeding the women? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/251 "2010-03-24T03:15:34Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > I’m sorry, I wasn’t aware that I had become responsible for your happiness. When did that happen? When you were born into a modern human society. > [@curlcoat](#): > > You must be quite young as it wasn’t all that long ago when things like buying on credit was only done for houses, or in emergencies. Most people didn’t go about buying things they couldn’t afford, or starting families before they had finished their educations and gotten good jobs. Oh, please. People have gone into debt for all sorts of reasons since before there was such a thing as money. And most people started their families before getting good jobs, because most people never got a good job at all. > [@curlcoat](#): > > Slavery? Forced abortion? I’ll agree with shotgun marriages, which is sort of a celebration in itself, but not the others. Well, you are wrong. Arranging for a quiet abortion whether she likes it or not is one of the traditional methods of dealing with getting a young girl pregnant. As was shoving her into one of those slave labor centers the Catholics ran for uppity young women. > [@curlcoat](#): > > Wow. Just wow. Your definition of personal responsibility is to go forth and manipulate, extort and exploit? Where did you grow up that you think this, or that being personally responsible must mean that one feels no other responsibilities? I grew up in America, where that is exactly the attitude of people who make speeches about personal responsibility. It’s nothing more than a noble sounding word for sociopathy; the denial of all responsibility and all respect for other human beings whatsoever. > [@curlcoat](#): > > Snort. OK, we’ll assume he actually seduced her and somehow “left her pregnant” against her will, if she knows who he is he is also legally responsible for that baby. Whether or not he wanted it and took steps to prevent it. But holding him responsible for that goes against the principle of personal responsibility. If he managed to victimize her, that just proves she deserved to be victimized; that’s personal responsibility. > [@curlcoat](#): > > People who oppose birth control are either religious fascists, or misogynist. How they think it is any of their business if a woman decides to put off childbearing is beyond me. As is your idea that those who oppose BC are into personal responsibility, since the two have zero to do with each other. There are both built on a complete disdain for the rights of others and a towering feeling of self entitlement; they fit well together, and are generally pushed by the same people. After all, if you are poor or sick or helpless, it must be because God hates you and you deserve whatever happens to you. And if you are healthy and well off, it is because you are the Chosen of God, and superior to the vermin who are not as prosperous or healthy as you are. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/252 "2010-03-24T03:47:17Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Middle class. Then I guess **Big T’s** response didn’t apply. > [@](#): > > No I didn’t. I don’t give shit one about what rivch people care about. You are making this up. It was **Bricker** who suggested that we shouldn’t tax rich people in order to better preserve their feelings of magnaninimity when they drop quarters in kettles. From your post, #151 - > [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > Who gives a fuck about nobless oblige. Rich cocksuckers have a civic responsibility. The public has no obligation to indulge their desire to feel smugly beneficent. Without the government, there aren’t any rich people. I don’t give two shits about their feelings. You want to force “the rich” to care about giving you whateveritis that you are on about this month, yet are proud to not care at all about them. I’d say that the public has no obligation to indulge in your desire to have the government take care of you. > [@](#): > > This is a fraudulent and fantastic characterization of of basic civil responsibilities and necessary state functions. Actually, it isn’t a characterization of basic civil responsibilities or necessary state functions at all. > [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > When you were born into a modern human society. No, that is not true. Just because you think that everyone has a right to have everything they want doesn’t mean that I or anyone else is responsible for providing that. I am in no way responsible for making you happy. > [@](#): > > Oh, please. People have gone into debt for all sorts of reasons since before there was such a thing as money. And most people started their families before getting good jobs, because most people never got a good job at all. I was talking about what was accepted as “correct” by society - I am well aware that there have always been people who think that they can do or buy whatever they want whether they will ever be able to afford it or not. Or just steal it. The difference now is that for some reason society seems to think that everyone has a right to 2.3 kids, a house and a white picket fence as soon as they want them, whether they have an education or not, whether they have a job or not, whether they have done anything at all to earn any of it. > [@](#): > > Well, you are wrong. Arranging for a quiet abortion whether she likes it or not is one of the traditional methods of dealing with getting a young girl pregnant. As was shoving her into one of those slave labor centers the Catholics ran for uppity young women. It is extremely difficult for me to take anything you say seriously when you keep exaggerating like this. > [@](#): > > I grew up in America, where that is exactly the attitude of people who make speeches about personal responsibility. It’s nothing more than a noble sounding word for sociopathy; the denial of all responsibility and all respect for other human beings whatsoever. “America” is a very big place. Apparently you grew up some place where being responsible for oneself was a bad thing, which might be why there are so many irresponsible people in this country these days. > [@](#): > > But holding him responsible for that goes against the principle of personal responsibility. If he managed to victimize her, that just proves she deserved to be victimized; that’s personal responsibility. I’m sorry, that doesn’t even make sense. How about you come up with a scenario that doesn’t involve exaggerations like “victimize”? > [@](#): > > There are both built on a complete disdain for the rights of others and a towering feeling of self entitlement; they fit well together, and are generally pushed by the same people. After all, if you are poor or sick or helpless, it must be because God hates you and you deserve whatever happens to you. And if you are healthy and well off, it is because you are the Chosen of God, and superior to the vermin who are not as prosperous or healthy as you are. Again, you are not making any sense. What does your economic status have to do with birth control? ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/253 "2010-03-24T14:22:36Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > So when can we start raping the cattle and stampeding the women? Can I get in on this? My qualifications are rape, murder, arson, and rape. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/254 "2010-03-24T14:40:43Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > So when can we start raping the cattle and stampeding the women? I already started. You wait too long you get stuck with an ugly cow. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/255 "2010-03-24T15:15:30Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > No, that is not true. Just because you think that everyone has a right to have everything they want doesn’t mean that I or anyone else is responsible for providing that. I am in no way responsible for making you happy. Nobody on this board is “responsible” for paying your disability so you can sit on your fat ass and compose shrill hypocritical screeds about _other people_ (but not _you_!) sponging off the public’s largesse. And yet most of us do, and yet here you are, and there you go once again. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/256 "2010-03-24T15:49:41Z")
ETA: Napkin sandwiches. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/257 "2010-03-24T21:12:37Z")
The guy who tossed the dollar bills came forward. And he says he’s sorry. [http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local\_news/stories/2010/03/24/dollar-bill-throw.html?sid=101](http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/03/24/dollar-bill-throw.html?sid=101) Also the Parkinson’s guy was a former nuclear engineer. Must be too lazy to get a job with health insurance, right Curlcoat? ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/258 "2010-03-24T21:18:22Z")
Well, at least the apology sounds reasonably sincere… even if it may have been scared out of him by people on the webbernets threatening to kill him. > [@](#): > > “That was my first time at any political rally and I’m never going to another one,” Reichert said. > > “I will never ever, ever go to another one.” Is it wrong that this made me laugh? ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/259 "2010-03-24T21:31:59Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Nobody on this board is “responsible” for paying your disability I have never said you are - that is something that you wish to believe simply because you don’t agree with my opinions. This also has nothing to do with whether or not I or anyone else is responsible for making you happy. > [@](#): > > so you can sit on your fat ass and compose shrill hypocritical screeds about _other people_ (but not _you_!) sponging off the public’s largesse. Again, since you all have never been able to do this, I dare you to find even one post that _actually_ (as in, not in your imagination and/or paranoia) fits that description. The opposite is actually true - you all try to “prove” your points by calling me names, exaggerating and making things up. It’s very immature. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/260 "2010-03-24T21:38:49Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > I have never said you are - that is something that you wish to believe simply because you don’t agree with my opinions. This also has nothing to do with whether or not I or anyone else is responsible for making you happy. > > Again, since you all have never been able to do this, I dare you to find even one post that _actually_ (as in, not in your imagination and/or paranoia) fits that description. The opposite is actually true - you all try to “prove” your points by calling me names, exaggerating and making things up. It’s very immature. No. My post was immature. Most other people have attempted reasonable debates with you. Not me. I still want to rape your money. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009.md?page=14)