# Teabaggers mock man with Parkinson's **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 19, 2010, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009 "2010-03-19T14:29:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/141 "2010-03-20T06:14:11Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > And? I didn’t say that conservatives were the only bad people. > > As opposed to having your shop, home or whatever handed over to a company? Or being forced to submit as a sex toy for your boss? Or beaten to death for being gay or having dark skin? Good conservative behavior like that. I get so tired of this shit coming from douchebags like you. There are approximately 80 million conservatives in this country. How many can you point to who ever engaged in any of this behavior? And don’t forget…wait for it…_CLINTON GOT A BLOWJOB!_ - and from an underling no less. Plus he tried every way he could to ruin the lives and reputations of women he’d previously used and discarded or just plain showed his [del]ass[/del] penis to. And then there was the liquored up Teddy boy chasing some hapless woman around a pool table, IIRC. If you wanna claim office pursuit of women for sex is a behavior committed primarily by conservatives, you’re gonna have to cough up some really convincing data. But having said that, do you really think you can blow off the tens of millions of people killed, and the hundreds of millions consigned to miserable lives for six decades, because a few hundred people were killed here by bigots, most of whom were Democrats at the time anyway? Gool luck with that. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/142 "2010-03-20T06:19:51Z")
:smack: Damn it! I should have made a joke about them _teabagging_ the guy. I always think of these things too late. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/143 "2010-03-20T07:04:50Z")
Wow, the intellectual depravity on both sides. Not that I’m necessarily surprised; it’s just more marked when you see it “live.” ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/144 "2010-03-20T14:30:33Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Not that I’m aware of. As I said, that’s pretty much the point; people join the conservative side of thing because they are the sort of people who wish to harm, oppress or exploit others. In other words, you think that every person who calls themselves a conservative wishes to harm, oppress or exploit others. That is truly amazing, and extremely sad. > [@](#): > > Not that it matters much if there is “something good” about conservatives; I didn’t ask you about the people, I asked you about the viewpoint. > [@](#): > > Maybe there’s some good thing somewhere that conservatives have supported; that doesn’t begin to make up the fact that they’ve been on the wrong side so consistently; from slavery to segregation to forbidding women the vote to trying to keep/make abortion illegal. Both sides of the coin have done things they would rather forget. Apparently you are much better at forgetting liberal sins. > [@](#): > > I see this a lot these days; people trying to defend the Right or religions with an argument that boils down to, “unless you show that they are pure evil, you shouldn’t criticize them!” Of course, that doesn’t apply here, since I didn’t say anything like that. ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/145 "2010-03-20T14:32:36Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > But that is the grievance in question. It’s a demonstration that the people who say things like that the Republican health care reform plan is “die” are correct. The right wing position on health care directly leads to behavior like this. The problem here isn’t the right wing position on health care. The problem here is people with shit for brains who can’t see past their own stupidity and stubborness to have a reasonable dialog on the subject of health care. I know people on both sides of the debate who can argue their views passionately without lowering themselves to the kind of asshole behavior seen in the video. It is equally true that there are assholes who live on both sides of the debate. Who we think the assholes are usually comes down to which side we support. But there are also the kind of assholes who nobody should be supporting. Like the assholes who were picking on the man with parkinson’s. And if someone’s views more align with the so-called teabagger viewpoint, then you have to realize that every time the big assholes get air time for being assholes it only makes you look more retarded. So, even if the parkinson’s dude put himself in harm’s way, it was completely fucking stupid to take the bait. I find it shameful that people need get up on their soapboxes with their ultra (right | eft) wing crap at the least provocation. ETA: > [@Der Trihs](#): > > Not that I’m aware of. As I said, that’s pretty much the point; people join the conservative side of thing because they are the sort of people who wish to harm, oppress or exploit others. Man, that just weapons grade ridiculous. Most people aren’t well informed on issues so they join whatever soundbites fit their general point of view, whether it be liberal or conservative leaning. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/146 "2010-03-20T14:38:37Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Of course. Like all conservatives, we’re just bad people. I know, I know. **Bricker** , you have repeatedly made comments like this in several threads recently. I just need to let you know that it makes you sound like a whiny pussy. It has led me to come up with a new saying, which I’m sure will catch fire: “Conservatives think that liberals are bad people with bad ideas. Liberals don’t give a shit what people think about them because they recognize that standing up for principles and values is independent of whether people like you or not.” ---
**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/147 "2010-03-20T15:20:03Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > I think the medieval church is fair game as conservative: > > Religious dogma as law > Prayer in school > Militarily hawkish (crusades) > Against science > Pro torture You also forgot: [Gothic cathedrals](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Denis_Basilica) [Europe’s first universities](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_university) [musical notation](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_notation#Early_Europe) [public hospitals](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospital#Medieval_Europe) [orphanages](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orphanage#History) [“the first organized attempt to control civil society in medieval Europe through non-violent means”](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_and_truce_of_god) [the abolition of simony and the establishment of the principle of the separation of church and state](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_Reform) Yes, truly it was the very apotheosis of reactionary repression. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/148 "2010-03-20T15:30:58Z")
> [@eleanorigby](#): > > **Bricker** is not evil: he’s just absolutely certain that his POV is the correct one and he’s pompous enough to strain forbearance. None of the conservatives here are evil–it’s silly to even try to label them that way. I do think most of them are mighty shrill as they oversimplify issues. Then again, Our Gang does seem to bait them or at least never fail to rise to their challenge. And a good time is had by all… I disagree. When your point of view is “I got mine, screw you”, you are evil. Not all of us are equipped to compete in the rat race of society, some of us through no fault of our own are stuck in dead end jobs that don’t pay very well and have no prayer of ever getting benefits other than Medicare. To say, “Tough shit, if I help you then I won’t have so much so go ahead and die for all I care” IS evil. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/149 "2010-03-20T16:34:07Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > Plus he tried every way he could to ruin the lives and reputations of women he’d previously used and discarded or just plain showed his ass penis to. This is just talk radio bullshit, not fact. You hurt your own credibility in trying to refute **Der Trihs** when you resort to crap like this. If you’re going to make a claim like this, support it with evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/150 "2010-03-20T17:01:27Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > The difference between Right and Left in this is that the Left is sometime good, sometimes bad; the Right is always bad. Even if that were true (which it isn’t), what do you think saying it is going to do? Do you think anyone who isn’t crazy partisan, even liberals, will take you seriously after something like that? Are you actually trying to convince anyone, or are you just bathing in your own sense of self-righteousness? > [@magellan01](#): > > But it’s a concept that pushes one to do what he doesn’t have to do. He does that which is beyond what he has to. Someone might choose to build a library, fund a school sports team, be a patron of the arts, fund a soup kitchen, an orphanage, etc. All wonderful things, but once an action becomes mandatory, the sense of noblesse oblige (which I share with you) becomes lost. So what you’re saying is that some people should starve, so that rich people can feel good about themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/151 "2010-03-20T17:24:05Z")
Who gives a fuck about _nobless oblige_. Rich cocksuckers have a civic responsibility. The public has no obligation to indulge their desire to feel smugly beneficent. Without the government, there _aren’t_ any rich people. I don’t give two shits about their _feelings_. Nothing is stopping them from going above and beyond their civic duty by _also_ giving to the needy. That’s what Jesus said to do. Pay your taxes _and_ give everything else to the poor. There should be no rich Christians. It’s an inherent contradiction. ---
**Author:** ![FE3O4ENAIL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ba9def/32.png) [@FE3O4ENAIL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FE3O4ENAIL)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/152 "2010-03-20T17:43:41Z")
At what net worth and income level are you rich? ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/153 "2010-03-20T17:44:30Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Who gives a fuck about _nobless oblige_. Rich cocksuckers have a civic responsibility. The public has no obligation to indulge their desire to feel smugly beneficent. Without the government, there _aren’t_ any rich people. I don’t give two shits about their _feelings_. > > Nothing is stopping them from going above and beyond their civic duty by _also_ giving to the needy. That’s what Jesus said to do. Pay your taxes _and_ give everything else to the poor. There should be no rich Christians. It’s an inherent contradiction. You and Der and Starving and Rand should go organize a Smug Parade…if you don’t kill each other first. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/154 "2010-03-20T18:05:36Z")
> [@FE3O4ENAIL](#): > > At what net worth and income level are you rich? Why do people always raise this point like it’s meaningful or clever? What do YOU think “rich” means? I’ll go along with whatever you think it means. ---
**Author:** ![FE3O4ENAIL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ba9def/32.png) [@FE3O4ENAIL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FE3O4ENAIL)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/155 "2010-03-20T18:06:49Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Why do people always raise this point like it’s meaningful or clever? What do YOU think “rich” means? I’ll go along with whatever you think it means. I am interested in your numbers. I think if you hold clear title on aircraft you are rich. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/156 "2010-03-20T18:20:46Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > First, as I said earlier I don’t believe people who claim to be fiscally conservative. And second, you most certainly support slavery, because that would be the inevitable result of the society you want, where the government is weak and the rich unrestrained. At most, you don’t support calling it slavery. > > So what? What’s important is that the wealthy be forced to pay their fair share, instead of playing parasite like they overwhelmingly prefer. Not that a few get their jollies by playing small scale altruist. Define “fair share”. If someone makes $30,000 and another makes $300,000 and the first pays $4,500 and the second pays $45,000, I think that’s VERY fair. Yeah, I know you disagree. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/157 "2010-03-20T18:22:39Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Define “fair share”. If someone makes $30,000 and another makes $300,000 and the first pays $4,500 and the second pays $45,000, I think that’s VERY fair. Yeah, I know you disagree. Not only do I think that’s fair, isn’t that how things are? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/158 "2010-03-20T18:23:37Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Define “fair share”. If someone makes $30,000 and another makes $300,000 and the first pays $4,500 and the second pays $45,000, I think that’s VERY fair. Yeah, I know you disagree. If you don’t understand why we have a progressive income tax and how a flat tax like you suggest is bullshit, you should sit out this conversation. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/159 "2010-03-20T18:24:22Z")
> [@pedescribe](#): > > So what you’re saying is that some people should starve, so that rich people can feel good about themselves. :rolleyes:Unbelievable. My comments went solely to the concept of noblesse oblige that someone brought up. Specifically the degree to which the “giving” be voluntary. This has nothing to do with taxes and government safety nets. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009/160 "2010-03-20T18:26:40Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > Not only do I think that’s fair, isn’t that how things are? No, my numbers are a crude representation of what would be owed via a flat tax. We have a progressive tax, which would skew the numbers more. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teabaggers-mock-man-with-parkinsons/533009.md?page=9)