# teacher kicks kids out for not speaking american? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 17, 2017, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104 "2017-10-17T03:56:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/1 "2017-10-17T03:56:56Z")
heres the story [MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-jersey-teacher-tells-students-speak-american/ar-AAtBekE?li=AA4ZnC&ocid=spartandhp) Did we change the constitution and I missed it? also unless I’m wrong theres not even been pure English since the 4 or 500s? and it was a personal convo anyways and besides there in joisy the hell do they know bout English anyways ? so id of walked out my self using every swear word in any language I remember … ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/2 "2017-10-17T05:59:33Z")
The article is a little confusing – it doesn’t say when they were kicked out, just that they were reprimanded and that the teacher started ranting. ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/3 "2017-10-17T10:52:31Z")
What language is ‘American’? ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/4 "2017-10-17T11:04:29Z")
Can someone translate the OP to English for me? ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/5 "2017-10-17T11:15:22Z")
> [@casdave](#): > > What language is ‘American’? That’s the one that can’t pronounce the 2nd ‘i’ in Aluminium, m’lud. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/6 "2017-10-17T13:15:33Z")
“American”? From an English teacher, no less.:smack: Are we _sure_ this wasn’t written by Andy Borowitz? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/7 "2017-10-17T13:17:15Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Can someone translate the OP to English for me? Forget English, we need it translated into American! ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/8 "2017-10-17T13:19:04Z")
Well, me for one is sick to tired of all dose immogrunts and dare funny talking. This America, and Mericans oughta talk like day are one. Dis is a yuuuge problem and we is gonna address it bigly! ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/9 "2017-10-17T13:26:35Z")
I was working on a large project in China once. In order of number of native speakers we had; Chinese, German, Finnish, Swedish, and Americans. According to the project manager the official project language was bad English, because everybody spoke bad English, especially the Americans. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/10 "2017-10-17T13:26:37Z")
American language is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we need to alter it every six months. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/11 "2017-10-17T13:45:45Z")
> [@casdave](#): > > What language is ‘American’? If you’re the kind of person who gets upset when somebody else is speaking another language in “your” country, then it’s not enough for you to “defend” the English language. You have to tell them to speak American. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/12 "2017-10-17T13:52:21Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Can someone translate the OP to English for me? I was following along, albeit with difficulty, until “_id of_”, which one can only assume should **HAVE** been “_I’d of_”. Whenever I see that, it is like a hot poker to the eyeballs, and I immediately shut down. ---
**Author:** ![Sandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/22d042/32.png) [@Sandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sandwich)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/13 "2017-10-17T14:20:04Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > I was following along, albeit with difficulty, until “_id of_”, which one can only assume should **HAVE** been “_I’d of_”. Whenever I see that, it is like a hot poker to the eyeballs, and I immediately shut down. In all fairness, there isn’t really a recognised way of writing the contraction for “I would have”. “I’d’ve” looks funny, though is closest to what we actually say? ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/14 "2017-10-17T14:26:06Z")
> [@Sandwich](#): > > In all fairness, there isn’t really a recognised way of writing the contraction for “I would have”. “I’d’ve” looks funny, though is closest to what we actually say? _I’d’ve_ is, indeed the version I use (and the correct one). I wouldn’t say it’s closest to what we actually say; it _is_ what we actually say, though many people misspell it as “I’d of” because “I’d’ve” and “I’d of” are homophonic, and the double contraction trips people up. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/15 "2017-10-17T14:28:37Z")
> [@Sandwich](#): > > In all fairness, there isn’t really a recognised way of writing the contraction for “I would have”. “I’d’ve” looks funny, though is closest to what we actually say? The OP has form throughout his posts of completely disregarding ANY standards of orthography though. He is the worst long-term poster on these boards for this. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/16 "2017-10-17T15:06:33Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > _I’d’ve_ is, indeed the version I use (and the correct one). I wouldn’t say it’s closest to what we actually say; it _is_ what we actually say, though many people misspell it as “I’d of” because “I’d’ve” and “I’d of” are homophonic, and the double contraction trips people up. I’d have probably gone with “I’d have” and let the reader internalize the “ha” if he/she so desires. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/17 "2017-10-17T15:25:31Z")
Is there a distinction between “you guys” and “youse guys”? ---
**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/18 "2017-10-17T15:28:06Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > _I’d’ve_ is, indeed the version I use (and the correct one). I wouldn’t say it’s closest to what we actually say; it _is_ what we actually say, though many people misspell it as “I’d of” because “I’d’ve” and “I’d of” are homophonic, and the double contraction trips people up. “I’d _ **of** _”? You do realize, of course, that “of” is not a goddamn verb? It’s a preposition. I would of makes no sense whatsoever, in any language. Please explain to me what action you think the word “of” describes. Take your time. I’ll wait. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/19 "2017-10-17T15:28:49Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > The article is a little confusing – it doesn’t say when they were kicked out, just that they were reprimanded and that the teacher started ranting. [Here’s the video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDoZLaoeBuY), either they’re walking out in anger or they got kicked out. This “we were just having a conversation about the Yankees” smacks of innocent eye-batting. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/20 "2017-10-17T16:09:55Z")
It looks as though the teacher is pointing at the door near the end of the video, so it looks like a kicking-out. What I don’t understand is why the teacher didn’t have a problem with them speaking in class, just that they were doing it in not-American. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104.md?page=2)