# teacher kicks kids out for not speaking american?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 17, 2017, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104 "2017-10-17T03:56:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/61 "2017-10-19T21:07:47Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> its/it’s  
> your/you’re  
> there/their/they’re
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> I’ll notice these, but they don’t bother me much. But could/would/should of is like a spark to really dry kindling. I don’t care one’s reason for using it. Once it is there, the entire post is dead.

Too bad. there are a lot of people with absolutely atrocious grammar and diction who nonetheless have true, funny, wise, or even important things to say. Shame to miss it. I admit, wading through a _lot_ of bad prose in hopes of finding a pearl is frustrating and often fruitless, but the price of conversation used to be having to listen to everybody, and I’m a little sad that technology has allowed us to turn our noses up at that.

To get back to the OP, a lot of the problems outlined in this thread could’ve been – NO! EVERYBODY PAY ATTENTION! – could be avoided by not unnecessarily dragging the past tense into things. “I could’ve sworn” = “I could swear,” in most instances in which you haven’t just recently changed your mind.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/62 "2017-10-20T01:45:48Z")

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Getting back to the OP? That’s what this thread is all about?

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/63 "2017-10-20T04:17:32Z")

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> [@nightshadea](#):
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> actually someone smart should of called the station and let them know not to come at all but as I said its joisy
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> But I’m surprised 100 walked out from what I’ve heard the rest might of been to busy stealing cars to care …

Who in the blue hell are YOU, writing like this, to be disrespecting ANYONE as unintelligent?

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/64 "2017-10-20T15:20:29Z")

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> [@Red\_Wiggler](#):
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> Assholes love their rules.

Hahahaha. Do you mean the legislators who passed these “rules”? Or the courts who adjudicate these “rules”? I’ll suggest that assholes like to walk out of class when they feel that their feelings have been hurt. I’ll also suggest that assholes like to pull fire alarms when they don’t feel they are being given enough attention.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/65 "2017-10-20T15:38:02Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Show me the reports of all the Emergency Services vehicles that were dispatched to the school or shut the fuck up.

Show me where the teacher kicked these social justice weenies out of class. They walked out under their own power, and under their own volition. The social justice weenies then chose to stand outside the school with a dozen others. After 90 minutes of not getting enough attention, one of these SJW chose to pull a fire alarm. I’d like to think it was all three, it’s the romantic in me. Whoever pulled the fire alarm should go to jail AND lose their driving privilege, as prescribe by NJ law.

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**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/66 "2017-10-20T16:00:12Z")

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Kind of off topic, but I once saw an American tourist utterly lose his shit and try and get some guys fired for talking in ‘Not American’ in his presence. We were in a game lodge in Kenya at the time, and the receptionist had had about a 20 second conversation with someone not wearing a lodge uniform in Swahili, while the aforementioned asshole\* was in the room.

I was 15 at the time, but it’s been my standard for self-absorbed arrogance ever since.

\*I feel sure he would prefer to be insulted in American English, rather than my usual British English. I’m nice like that.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/67 "2017-10-20T16:36:20Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Show me where the teacher kicked these social justice weenies out of class. They walked out under their own power, and under their own volition. The social justice weenies then chose to stand outside the school with a dozen others. After 90 minutes of not getting enough attention, **one of these SJW chose to pull a fire alarm.** I’d like to think it was all three, it’s the romantic in me. Whoever pulled the fire alarm should go to jail AND lose their driving privilege, as prescribe by NJ law.

Cite? Maybe a modicum of proof? A witness or three?

Otherwise, fucko off.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/68 "2017-10-20T17:43:38Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Show me where the teacher kicked these social justice weenies out of class. They walked out under their own power, and under their own volition. The social justice weenies then chose to stand outside the school with a dozen others. After 90 minutes of not getting enough attention, one of these SJW chose to pull a fire alarm. I’d like to think it was all three, it’s the romantic in me. Whoever pulled the fire alarm should go to jail AND lose their driving privilege, as prescribe by NJ law.

Right here, Einstein.

> [@cochrane](#):
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> According to another article, one of the students who were berated says she was kicked out when she stood up for herself to the teacher.
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> [New Jersey students walk out after teacher tells Spanish-speaking student to 'speak American' | abc7.com](https://www.google.com/amp/abc7.com/amp/education/spanish-speaking-student-told-to-speak-american/2539228/)
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> > Yennifer Pinales, 17, says her teacher at Cliffside Park High School lashed out, telling her to practice her English.
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> > After Pinales told the teacher she was appalled by her comments, she was kicked out of class.

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**Author:** ![LongTimeLurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@LongTimeLurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LongTimeLurker)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2017, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/69 "2017-10-22T03:37:51Z")

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Yennifer Pinales, 17, says her teacher at Cliffside Park High School lashed out, telling her to practice her English.

So when did the inmates take control of the asylum? Gee Yennifer, don’t practice your English, that will show your teacher.

And what is even more amazing, there are other teenager’s that would rather ditch school for any reason what so ever! Who could ever have seen that coming?

So a handful of teenagers are protesting the tone of their teachers admonition to Yennifer to speak better English. Oh the horror. Such stress on so many ignorant teen’s.

Well the obvious solution is to fire the teacher and hire Yennifer to run the class! I am sure Yennifer has the education and aptitude to deal with the protester’s she inspired. She is 17 after all, she knows everything.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2017, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/70 "2017-10-22T04:18:55Z")

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> [@LongTimeLurker](#):
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> Yennifer Pinales, 17, says her teacher at Cliffside Park High School lashed out, telling her to practice her English.
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> So when did the inmates take control of the asylum? Gee Yennifer, don’t practice your English, that will show your teacher.
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> And what is even more amazing, there are other teenager’s that would rather ditch school for any reason what so ever! Who could ever have seen that coming?
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> So a handful of teenagers are protesting the tone of their teachers admonition to Yennifer to speak better English. Oh the horror. Such stress on so many ignorant teen’s.
> 
> Well the obvious solution is to fire the teacher and hire Yennifer to run the class! I am sure Yennifer has the education and aptitude to deal with the protester’s she inspired. She is 17 after all, she knows everything.

Yennifer speaks both English and Spanish. The teacher wasn’t correcting her English, she was berating her and her friends for speaking Spanish. Where is it written that speaking Spanish was against the rules? The teacher was in the wrong and she was the one with the bad attitude. She ignorantly told the students, “We speak American here.” I’d say the ignorant ones are the ones who can’t see that.

Also, the teen’s what? Plurals don’t get apostrophes. You could learn better English yourself.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2017, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/71 "2017-10-22T07:12:58Z")

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And if anyone should practice their English, it should be the teacher, not the student.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2017, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/72 "2017-10-22T08:20:37Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> And if anyone should practice their English, it should be the teacher, not the student.

And, if course, the originator of this thread.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/73 "2017-10-23T14:09:50Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Cite? Maybe a modicum of proof? A witness or three?

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Did you read the WGNTV article I had linked to up thread?

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/74 "2017-10-23T14:13:12Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Right here, Einstein.

This social justice weenie was already walking out of class. How do you kick someone out of class when they are already walking out of class?

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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/75 "2017-10-23T14:21:18Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> This social justice weenie was already walking out of class. How do you kick someone out of class when they are already walking out of class?

By actually kicking or making that someone run ? It’s quite easy if that someone haven’t already left the room.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/76 "2017-10-23T14:30:31Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Yennifer speaks both English and Spanish. The teacher wasn’t correcting her English, she was berating her and her friends for speaking Spanish. Where is it written that speaking Spanish was against the rules? The teacher was in the wrong and she was the one with the bad attitude. She ignorantly told the students, “We speak American here.” I’d say the ignorant ones are the ones who can’t see that.

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It would be nice if this social justice weenie had remembered to have her alleged conversation capture on video. Maybe the beginning and end of the incident had been edited out? It would certainly have helped her credibility. What was captured was three social justice weenies choosing to stand up, while class was in session, and walking out of the classroom. Wouldn’t this be the equivalent of you walking off the job only to hear your boss say, “You’re fired”, to which you reply, “You can’t fire me because I just quit”??? As it is, it appears that the social justice weenies left the classroom acting on their own volition.

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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2017, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/77 "2017-10-23T14:38:21Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> social justice weenies.

Sigh, you’re not even trying.

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2017, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/78 "2017-10-25T21:45:38Z")

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> [@SaneBill](#):
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> (post shortened)
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> Sigh, you’re not even trying.

Social Justice Weenies?

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2017, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/79 "2017-10-25T22:33:44Z")

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[Update](http://www.northjersey.com/story/news/bergen/cliffside-park/2017/10/24/speak-american-teacher-back-classroom-cliffside-park/795035001/): The teacher returned to the school yesterday, and apologized to the school (students and staff) via a PA system address.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2017, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-kicks-kids-out-for-not-speaking-american/799104/80 "2017-10-25T23:15:41Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> And, if course, the originator of this thread.

:smack:

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