# Teacher Orders Kid to Lose Romney Shirt **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 4, 2012, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-orders-kid-to-lose-romney-shirt/636714 "2012-10-04T17:04:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-orders-kid-to-lose-romney-shirt/636714/1 "2012-10-04T17:04:22Z")
[An unidentified teacher](http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/politics/Romney-High-School-T-Shirt-Flap-172627871.html) orders a kid in geometry class get rid of her Romney T-shirt: > [@](#): > > A Philadelphia high schooler says she was humiliated after her teacher told her to lose her Gov. Mitt Romney T-shirt comparing it to “wearing a KKK shirt.” > > Samantha Pawlucy, a 16-year-old sophomore at Charles Carroll High School in the Port Richmond section of the city, says she wore a pink Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan T-shirt last Friday during the school’s dress down day. > > No one made an issue of Samantha’s political T-shirt until she got to geometry class. > > “The teacher told me to get out of the classroom, I said no,” Samantha said. > > “She told me to take off my shirt and said that she has another one if I need one. And then the teacher asked me… ‘are your parents Republican?’ I said, ‘I don’t know.’ She said that’s like her wearing a KKK shirt.” When you see an educator with that kind of pedagogical talent and wisdom, you just have to stop and wonder how the teacher survived without being fired already. Who knows? Maybe this was the first blip in an otherwise sterling career. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-orders-kid-to-lose-romney-shirt/636714/2 "2012-10-04T17:15:16Z")
Assuming the facts as presented are correct, that’s pretty outrageously inexcusable behavior from the teacher. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-orders-kid-to-lose-romney-shirt/636714/3 "2012-10-04T17:24:55Z")
I’ve seen worse while at LAUSD. Not only with the proselytizing\* to the students but with the personal insults such as during a staff meeting a teacher showing the faked photo of Bush reading a book upside down and announcing that anyone who is a Republican is as retarded as the President. I think they assumed every teacher is a Democrat. \*If you listen to the Radical Right (Limbaugh, Beck) rant against how The Left indoctrinates kids to be Communist it sounds absolutely ridiculous until you see that one wacko teacher that does exactly that. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-orders-kid-to-lose-romney-shirt/636714/4 "2012-10-04T17:27:34Z")
I’m 100% outraged by this. I think we should elect Mitt Romney for president just to teach that woman a lesson. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-orders-kid-to-lose-romney-shirt/636714/5 "2012-10-04T17:34:04Z")
Yeah, unless the shirt said, “Elect Mitt Romney: He’ll Keep the Niggers in their Place,” this is pretty inexcusable. Of course, if that was what was on the students shirt, what does it say about the teachers who were fine with it? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-orders-kid-to-lose-romney-shirt/636714/6 "2012-10-04T17:36:20Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > I’m 100% outraged by this. I think we should elect Mitt Romney for president just to teach that woman a lesson. :mad: This is worse than the war on Christmas. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-orders-kid-to-lose-romney-shirt/636714/7 "2012-10-04T17:36:33Z")
It’s a shame everyone on who is not a dyed in the wool Republican agrees with that teacher and Obama intends to make it a law that only shirts with the names of Democratic candidates can be worn in schools. There’s no way this is a singular case of a nitwit who doesn’t represent the mainstream of Democratic politics. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-orders-kid-to-lose-romney-shirt/636714/8 "2012-10-04T17:38:14Z")
Terrible decision by the teacher. She should apologize to the student and her family and be moved to another class while the district investigates. > [@](#): > > They requested a meeting with the principal and the teacher. The teacher apologized to Samantha and her parents saying that the statement was meant as a joke. > > A spokesperson for the Philadelphia School District tells NBC10 the teacher was transferred to another classroom as the district investigates the incident. Oh, good. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-orders-kid-to-lose-romney-shirt/636714/9 "2012-10-04T17:40:46Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > It’s a shame everyone on who is not a dyed in the wool Republican agrees with that teacher and Obama intends to make it a law that only shirts with the names of Democratic candidates can be worn in schools. There’s no way this is a singular case of a nitwit who doesn’t represent the mainstream of Democratic politics. And of course, the other side doesn’t do anything like that at all which is why we should be civil to them. They’d have to do something really egregious like put out ads with their opponents in crosshairs to be as bad as this. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-orders-kid-to-lose-romney-shirt/636714/10 "2012-10-04T17:45:36Z")
Need to see shirt. Sorry way, way, too much room for nonsense to happen, otherwise. Either show me the shirt, so I can decide for myself, who was out of line, or don’t run the damn story, I say. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-orders-kid-to-lose-romney-shirt/636714/11 "2012-10-04T17:45:40Z")
A joke??? Good God! It was a hysterical overreaction from the teacher. If the school has no policy about political messages on t-shirts, then this teacher should hold her water in front of the student and complain to the Admins to change their policy. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-orders-kid-to-lose-romney-shirt/636714/12 "2012-10-04T17:51:40Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > And of course, the other side doesn’t do anything like that at all which is why we should be civil to them. They’d have to do something really egregious like put out ads with their opponents in crosshairs to be as bad as this. Actually it could all be done neutrally. A story about a teacher who told a kid to lose a shirt with a presidential candidate’s name on it. No need to mention the candidate unless the story is meant to be partisan rabble rousing instead of an actual news story. No one is innocent in this kind of nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-orders-kid-to-lose-romney-shirt/636714/13 "2012-10-04T17:54:52Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > Need to see shirt. > > Sorry way, way, too much room for nonsense to happen, otherwise. Either show me the shirt, so I can decide for myself, who was out of line, or don’t run the damn story, I say. If you click the link right there in the OP, you’ll see the shirt - as part of the damn story. It’s the picture on the linked video, and it’s displayed pretty thoroughly if you watch the video. Utterly normal “Romney/Ryan America’s Comeback Team” shirt - not even a picture on it. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-orders-kid-to-lose-romney-shirt/636714/14 "2012-10-04T18:04:03Z")
Already being discussed in the “Stupid liberal…” thread. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-orders-kid-to-lose-romney-shirt/636714/15 "2012-10-04T18:08:28Z")
If the school has a policy against kids wearing shirts with a candidate’s name or face on them, or even against shirts with anything political on them, I can understand a teacher enforcing the policy. If there is no such policy, then the teacher is completely out of line making policy on her own, especially if she is only objecting to one candidate. Her comments, as reported, sound like something that she should be censured for. I’m willing to leave that to the school board. It’s fitting that she appologized. This isn’t a matter of which candidate I like, it’s about what’s appropriate in a school. Either candidate/political shirts are allowed or they’re not. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-orders-kid-to-lose-romney-shirt/636714/16 "2012-10-04T18:08:47Z")
Wait, the thread is missing a certain something… IF A CONSERVATIVE TEACHER HAD DONE THIS YOU LIBERALS WOULD BE DEMANDING HIS PUBLIC EXECUTION!!!1!! There we go. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-orders-kid-to-lose-romney-shirt/636714/17 "2012-10-04T18:09:56Z")
Oh my God! ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-orders-kid-to-lose-romney-shirt/636714/18 "2012-10-04T18:16:12Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Wait, the thread is missing a certain something… > > IF A CONSERVATIVE TEACHER HAD DONE THIS YOU LIBERALS WOULD BE DEMANDING HIS PUBLIC EXECUTION!!! > > There we go. Thanks for Brickering Bricker. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-orders-kid-to-lose-romney-shirt/636714/19 "2012-10-04T18:27:16Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Wait, the thread is missing a certain something… > > IF A CONSERVATIVE TEACHER HAD DONE THIS YOU LIBERALS WOULD BE DEMANDING HIS PUBLIC EXECUTION!!!1!! > > There we go. > [@Hamlet](#): > > Thanks for Brickering Bricker. You baby rapering, women genitle circumcisers mock becuase you know it’s true and thus you can mock knowing everyone would know you are mocking. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-orders-kid-to-lose-romney-shirt/636714/20 "2012-10-04T18:43:28Z")
This wouldn’t fit in the ‘Stupid liberal idea of the day’ thread\*\* Bricker\*\*? Or are you just so proud that you finally have real evidence of a liberal mistake you’d like to showcase it? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teacher-orders-kid-to-lose-romney-shirt/636714.md?page=2)