So, physical and verbal abuse of children is ok now, and should be ignored even if the victim has to hide and call the police. Got it, i must have been wrong thinking that sort of behaviour was fucking disgusting.
Physical and verbal abuse isn’t OK. Neither happened in this case.
From reading the news stories, the girl is claiming that the teacher threw a table at her, and swore at her, which if true is unacceptable. Also, several people in the thread are saying that teachers throwing things at students is fine. It isn’t.
Go back under your bridge.
If you want to call someone a troll, start a Pit thread. You’re out of line in MPSIMS.
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You can listen to Maria’s 911 call to the Atherton police here. Make of it what you will.
It’s the reason I quit. My experiences with teaching firmly convinced me that we need to bring back corporal punishment in schools.
I think what bothered me most about that recording is that the situation was serious enough in her mind that she called 911, but she was ultimately more concerned about her friend getting her cell phone back then talking to the 911 dispatcher. Sure, it could just be that she was a confused teenager. But my cynical side says she was more interested in getting the teacher in trouble and got in over her head, rather than that she was generally fearful for her safety. She sounds calm enough to me early in the conversation when she says, “I mean, he shouldn’t be doing that.” Uh huh.
Why in the world did this girl call 911 instead of just running into another classroom, the main office, or anywhere else in the school where another adult would be available to help?
I’m a teacher so maybe my views are a bit skewed, but my goodness I never in a million years would have thought to call 911 on any teacher without first trying to get other adults involved first.
That kind of judgment comes with maturity. This was a child, and for all we know, her parents told her to always call 911 for emergencies.
14 years old is hardly a child. She should know the difference between a true emergency and someone being mean to her.
I was leaning toward thinking she was a “special needs child” when listening to the tape. Maybe she’s autistic or has some other problem that makes it hard for her to judge social situations.
I wonder how the other kids are treating her now.
I imagine because, first, talking to another adult physically present in the school would have required permission from the teacher to leave the classroom. She could have left without permission, but that takes a student willing to risk their neck.
Second, I also imagine that in this girl’s mind, she had a picture of police arriving, grabbing the teacher, cuffing him, and dragging him to the patrol vehicle, just like in Law and Order. It probably never occurred to her that no police officer is going to act on a call without getting a good idea of what’s been happening, and that includes talking to the teacher and the other students.
Can you imagine what was going thru the dispatcher’s mind? If I were in that position, I would have to prepare for the worst. For all she knew at first, the teacher was going on a dangerous rampage, brandishing weapons, terrorizing the class and holding them hostage, and only one student had the sense to sneak out, hide in the bathroom and call for help. If that really was what was happening, running to the principal’s office, which might have been far away, could have been a poorer choice.
14yo may not be a 9yo child, but 14 is not considered mature enough in most states to drive a car.
She was calling from the bathroom wasn’t she? So she’d borrowed her friend’s phone and left the classroom to make the call. And unless the classroom was right next to the bathroom she likely had to pass at least one classroom on the way there but IME the bathrooms were farther aaway from the next nearest bathroom as the classroom doors tended to be paired beside each other while the bathrooms were at the end of each hallway. So even the nearest bathroom was further away than at least 3 other classrooms (the one right beside the one you were in and the two across the hall).