# Team logo was so bad, they changed the team name **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 30, 2016, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/team-logo-was-so-bad-they-changed-the-team-name/761323 "2016-07-30T20:30:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/team-logo-was-so-bad-they-changed-the-team-name/761323/1 "2016-07-30T20:30:33Z")
From Warriors to Gulls. A new hockey team that starts up this fall. > **[Hockey Team's Logo Was So Bad, They Changed The Whole Damn Team Name](https://deadspin.com/hockey-teams-logo-was-so-bad-they-changed-the-whole-da-1784529184)** > > Yesterday, we predicted that the Lake Erie Warriors, a junior club in the brand-new NCPHL, would apologize and change its logo. It happened fast. What we didn’t predict was that the logo would so thoroughly salt the earth and pollute the groundwater... ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/team-logo-was-so-bad-they-changed-the-team-name/761323/2 "2016-07-30T22:45:55Z")
That was a pretty generically bad logo but Gulls is a shitty hockey team name. They’re from Altoona, PA which is a couple hundred miles from Lake Erie, plus Cleveland already hosts the AHL Lake Erie Monsters, so I think they should reset the WHOLE damn thing. I think they should go with something like the Altoona Hoggers and get a logo of a cool hog wearing an engineers cap or something. Hell, I’d buy that jersey. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/team-logo-was-so-bad-they-changed-the-team-name/761323/3 "2016-07-30T23:08:50Z")
Altoona already has one cool-name team, the minor-league baseball Altoona Curve. Albeit their logo is a bit unsettling too… [https://mlblogsbensbiz.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/curve\_engineeerkeystone4.jpg](https://mlblogsbensbiz.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/curve_engineeerkeystone4.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/team-logo-was-so-bad-they-changed-the-team-name/761323/4 "2016-07-31T00:28:15Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > They’re from Altoona, PA which is a couple hundred miles from Lake Erie, plus Cleveland already hosts the AHL Lake Erie Monsters, so I think they should reset the WHOLE damn thing. I think they should go with something like the Altoona Hoggers and get a logo of a cool hog wearing an engineers cap or something. Hell, I’d buy that jersey. How about the Altoona Alto Tuners? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/team-logo-was-so-bad-they-changed-the-team-name/761323/5 "2016-07-31T00:55:57Z")
What’s unsettling about the Curve using a railworker as their logo? I mean, given that they’re named after a section of track, and all. ---
**Author:** ![mixdenny](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mixdenny/32/2962_2.png) [@mixdenny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mixdenny)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/team-logo-was-so-bad-they-changed-the-team-name/761323/6 "2016-07-31T21:40:38Z")
I frequently drive by the Lake Erie Crushers stadium (minor league baseball). What is it with the North Coast and aggressive names? Trying to make up for decades of “The Great Swamp Erie”? Dennis ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/team-logo-was-so-bad-they-changed-the-team-name/761323/7 "2016-07-31T22:16:34Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > What’s unsettling about the Curve using a railworker as their logo? I mean, given that they’re named after a section of track, and all. He looks pretty demoniacal. He looks like he’s as high on cocaine as the Grateful Dead’s Casey Jones. I certainly wouldn’t want to see that guy at the throttle as we come into a curve. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/team-logo-was-so-bad-they-changed-the-team-name/761323/8 "2016-07-31T23:01:02Z")
Well, yeah, sports mascots are supposed to be intimidating. There’s a reason that Eagles and Lions and Warriors are a lot more popular than Mice and Sparrows and Accountants. ---
**Author:** ![Critical1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Critical1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical1)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/team-logo-was-so-bad-they-changed-the-team-name/761323/9 "2016-08-01T00:22:59Z")
They should have gone with one of the warriors from the film… ---
**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/team-logo-was-so-bad-they-changed-the-team-name/761323/10 "2016-08-01T00:35:04Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Well, yeah, sports mascots are supposed to be intimidating. Not always: the New Orleans Pelicans gave their mascot a makeover because their original mascot was scaring the kids. ---
**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/team-logo-was-so-bad-they-changed-the-team-name/761323/11 "2016-08-01T04:03:59Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > That was a pretty generically bad logo but Gulls is a shitty hockey team name. > > They’re from Altoona, PA which is a couple hundred miles from Lake Erie, plus Cleveland already hosts the AHL Lake Erie Monsters, so I think they should reset the WHOLE damn thing. I think they should go with something like the Altoona Hoggers and get a logo of a cool hog wearing an engineers cap or something. Hell, I’d buy that jersey. Im re-reading this. Theres a team in Altoona, PA named the Lake Erie Gulls???😕😕😕 ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/team-logo-was-so-bad-they-changed-the-team-name/761323/12 "2016-08-01T14:51:13Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > That was a pretty generically bad logo but Gulls is a shitty hockey team name. Seems that they thought of that and are now [the Eagles](http://news.sportslogos.net/2016/07/31/hockey-team-drops-logo-just-because-it-was-super-racist/). ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/team-logo-was-so-bad-they-changed-the-team-name/761323/13 "2016-08-01T15:29:04Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Seems that they thought of that and are now [the Eagles](http://news.sportslogos.net/2016/07/31/hockey-team-drops-logo-just-because-it-was-super-racist/). Wow, that logo is horrible as well. I get that it’s supposed to be a hockey playing eagle-man, but the wing/arms don’t at all look like they’re holding the stick, the stick is at a weird angle for the arms and the head looks just pasted on top. In fact, the head, arms/wings and legs all look like parts of different images that someone just overlaid. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/team-logo-was-so-bad-they-changed-the-team-name/761323/14 "2016-08-01T16:10:58Z")
I miss the [Omaha Omahogs](http://www.baseball-reference.com/register/team.cgi?id=f350f72f) of the old Western Association. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2016, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/team-logo-was-so-bad-they-changed-the-team-name/761323/15 "2016-08-05T04:42:09Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > How about the Altoona Alto Tuners? “Hogger” is slang for a locomotive engineer, so that would tie Altoona’s local industry to the team. Plus, “hogger” is just such an awesome, strong word; it’s fun to say and can sound menacing with that “grrrrr” at the end. Or they could play it for laughs maybe and be the Altoona Fish. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2016, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/team-logo-was-so-bad-they-changed-the-team-name/761323/16 "2016-08-05T05:07:12Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Well, yeah, sports mascots are supposed to be intimidating. There’s a reason that Eagles and Lions and Warriors are a lot more popular than Mice and Sparrows and Accountants. Pirates and Warriors and Vikings are supposed to be intimidating. Engineers aren’t. When you take a prosaic occupation like a train engineer and make him look psychotic, it’s unsettling. ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2016, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/team-logo-was-so-bad-they-changed-the-team-name/761323/17 "2016-08-05T05:09:32Z")
What logo would you use for a team named “The Father Rapers”? ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2016, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/team-logo-was-so-bad-they-changed-the-team-name/761323/18 "2016-08-05T07:13:44Z")
Surely they should be the Altoona Fish Sandwiches. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2016, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/team-logo-was-so-bad-they-changed-the-team-name/761323/19 "2016-08-05T13:17:19Z")
IT’s okay for hockey logos to be hideous because there’s a long tradition of hideous, overworked hockey logos. I don’t understand, though, why minor league ballteams have so many hideous logos. A baseball logo should be simple and elegant. Few colors should be used. Letters or simple designs; something that fits well on a cap. I will give Altoona credit though; they once honored Mister Rogers by wearing Mister Rogers uniforms: > **[MLB Major League Baseball News, Expert Analysis, Rumors, Live Updates, &...](https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news/)** > > Sports News, Scores, Fantasy Games ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2016, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/team-logo-was-so-bad-they-changed-the-team-name/761323/20 "2016-08-11T23:43:31Z")
The new crest looks like the logo is ready to be surgically removed. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/team-logo-was-so-bad-they-changed-the-team-name/761323.md?page=2)