[Moderating]
Moving from CS to the Game Room.
No one calls it that in most contexts; there’s no point. Nonetheless, technically, it’s not Las Vegas. Almost none of the Strip is in Vegas; the line intersects the Strip at East Sahara, just south of the Stratosphere.
The Braves moving from Milwaukee to Atlanta was a really bad thing for baseball. There was really no good reason to do it; the franchise was successful in Milwaukee, and while attendance was declining in the 1960s it would have come back up. Had they not moved, Atlanta would unquestionably have gotten its own team, probably in 1969, and Bud Selig would not have had the opportunity to move a team to Milwaukee and we would have been spared that asshole.
Owner Billy Sullivan was so enraged by the palm-greasing demands of Boston pols that he took the city’s name off the team. Bob Kraft faced the same issue when trying to build the team’s new stadium along the Southeast Expressway. The Foxboro pols are happy, though.
That plan, like so many others, has fallen through. The Rays now have nothing going on for relocation.
And the Saints played in San Antonio.
I believe the Chicago White Sox played some home games in Milwaukee post-Braves and pre-Brewers.
The strip is in Paradise. Indeed, that’s the whole point to “Paradise.”
I remember noticing this when I was a kid in the late 70’s. The teams that kept the same name when they moved (Dodgers, Giants, Braves, A’s) were considered a continued history. The teams that changed their names (Senators I & II, Browns, Pilots) were considered different franchises. I don’t know if this was official or not.
Yea, but they want people to know where they are located. I guarantee you more than 50% of people on the East Coast could not tell you where San Jose is.
Nor how to get there.
And the Redskins spring training facility is in Richmond VA, 100 miles south of downtown Washington.
Not official, as far as I can tell.
The Twins franchise is, from what I can see, considered to be a continuation of the Senators Mk. I franchise (and, apparently, the Kansas City Blues prior to that); similarly, the Rangers are considered to be a continuation of the Senators Mk. II franchise, the Brewers are considered to be a continuation of the Seattle Pilots franchise, the Orioles a continuation of the St. Louis Browns franchise, and the Nationals a continuation of the Montreal Expos franchise.
There have been a small number of examples when a team moved, and was considered, by its league, to be the start of a brand-new team, with no historical connection to its past in its old city / name; the most noteworthy example of this is when the Cleveland Browns moved to Baltimore, and became the Ravens – as part of the legal settlement between the NFL and the city, the expansion Browns are considered to “own” the historical records of the original franchise.
Golf clap.
Dionne Warwick might have the directions by now.
I guess that is my point. I did not know that.
So, keeping with the nitpickery, if someone asks where I went on vacation, and I say Las Vegas, should I really say Paradise?
If I went to DisneyWorld, should a person be chided for saying that they were in Orlando and be told that they were really in Lake Buena Vista, FL or most of the time in Bay Lake, FL?
It is customary for close suburbs to nonetheless be considered part of the larger city that they are near.
This made my day, thanks!
CGB Grey Video on Las Vegas: Las Vegas isn't Las Vegas - YouTube
(His video on the City of London is great too The Secret City inside of London Revealed - YouTube and London's Secret Mayor who runs The Secret City - YouTube)
Brian
In 1877 the National League’s Hartford Club played all its home games in Brooklyn, while keeping the name “Hartford” or “the Hartfords.”
Modern sources often label the 1876 team the “Hartford Dark Blues” and the 1877 team the “Brooklyn Hartfords,” But that doesn’t really reflect how club names worked back then.
When the St. Louis Browns moved to Baltimore, the new owners left all the Brownie history. No more George Sisler hitting .424. No more Pete Grey, the one-armed outfielder. No more Eddie Gaedel, the 3’6" pinch-hitter (once.) The Browns history is kept alive by the Cardinals.
Wasn’t that also the case when the Houston Oilers became the Tennessee Titans?
No, the Oilers are part of the Titans’ history, and the NFL retired the “Oilers” nickname, thereby preventing the expansion Houston Texans from naming themselves the Oilers.