# Teaser for Pixar's Brave **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 28, 2011, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205 "2011-06-28T23:44:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/21 "2011-06-29T04:08:21Z")
Thank you. That’s what I’m trying to say. It’s not that I’m _against_ kids’ movies, just that I’m against the fact that they ONLY make kids’ movies using technology that has potential to do much greater things. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/22 "2011-06-29T04:20:03Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I thought it looked like it might be interesting until they showed the little girl. I think she’s more a young woman, than a little girl. Best guess, 20 years old or so. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/23 "2011-06-29T04:40:50Z")
It wasn’t funny _at all_. Where’s the \*\*Incredibles 2 \*\*trailer? ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/24 "2011-06-29T04:41:13Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > What I mean is, with the unbelievable and unprecedented visual power of their unique animation technology, they never even _try_ push the envelope. They don’t go for the truly surreal; they could do amazingly trippy or scary stuff if they wanted to, but they keep making what are basically kids’ movies or at the very least “all-ages” movies that The Whole Family Can Enjoy. Could you imagine what a Terry Gilliam or David Cronenberg could do with this animation technology? Tastes differ. I’m 49 years old, and I hate trippy and scary movies. ---
**Author:** ![GameHat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ed655f/32.png) [@GameHat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GameHat)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/25 "2011-06-29T04:46:13Z")
I think I remember seeing this trailer about five years ago. Back then, they were calling it “The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion” :mad: It’s a lazy trailer, as has been pointed out above. C’mon, Pixar. We know you can do better. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/26 "2011-06-29T05:02:09Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > Thank you. That’s what I’m trying to say. It’s not that I’m _against_ kids’ movies, just that I’m against the fact that they ONLY make kids’ movies using technology that has potential to do much greater things. animation = kids movie At least, that’s so stuck in the public consciousness that to make a totally adult-focused animated movie is a HUGE risk. As others have pointed out, Pixar is a business and invests huge quantities of money in its movies. It goes out of its way to make creative, unique movies that appeal to both kids and adults, that do NOT just have cute talking animals and celebrity cameos and fart jokes. If that’s not good enough for you, well, then I feel like you’ll very rarely be pleased by anything in life. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Evil\_Prince\_Zorte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@The\_Evil\_Prince\_Zorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Evil_Prince_Zorte)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/27 "2011-06-29T05:04:43Z")
It may be a function of what they could get finished, and I don’t know who is responsible for the marketing creative, whether Pixar itself (doubtful), Disney or another vendor. You can’t show or say much with a teaser (it wouldn’t tease otherwise). But the best ones make you mad that you have to wait a whole year to see the movie. Good ones make you want to find out more about intriguing character or story setup. This one just told us that the real Pixar will be back next summer after having taken a year off to cash in on Cars. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/28 "2011-06-29T05:46:25Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > animation = kids movie > > At least, that’s so stuck in the public consciousness that to make a totally adult-focused animated movie is a HUGE risk. I’m trying to think of adult CGI movies. I think Beowulf and Final Fantasy are the only two (and neither are particularly damaging to your thesis that they don’t do well). Was Antz aimed more at adults? IIRC, the guy who did District 9 is making a CGI sci-fi movie, so I suspect that will be the next attempt we see at making a computer animated film thats aimed at older audiences. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/29 "2011-06-29T12:48:01Z")
Well, I for one am looking forward to the movie, based on this 30 second clip. It amazes me how much people can draw from it, but I like the idea and the concept. If I want deep, there’s plenty of deep, obscure, weird movies out there. I like Pixar for what it is. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/30 "2011-06-29T13:08:53Z")
Seems darker than most Pixar flicks. Wonder if that holds up ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/31 "2011-06-29T13:21:50Z")
The only thing you can tell, and the only thing you are intended to judge, in a clip like that is what they are doing with the animation. On that level, I thought it was damned impressive. That girl’s hair was _amazing_. The texture, color, and physical movement of it was out of sight. The horse and bear were less so, and I think their decision to render the human face in a stylized fashion rather than going for realism is a good thing. It is still animation, the intention isn’t to mimic reality. If you are making an animated movie and trying to have it look like real people you are doing it wrong. It seems like it could be interesting, but you can’t really know anything about the story from that clip. ---
**Author:** ![MilTan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@MilTan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MilTan)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/32 "2011-06-29T13:25:10Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > It’s very painterly, though. I’ve wanted to see a CG movie try to capture that kind of “brush stroke” imagery, and this might be the one that does it. I thought _Tangled_ did a pretty fantastic job of capturing the aesthetic of classic Disney cell animation in a CGI movie. Not quite the same “painting-like” effect, but it was an impressive achievement. ---
**Author:** ![PapSett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@PapSett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PapSett)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/33 "2011-06-29T13:27:42Z")
Add me to the think-it-looks-great crowd. LOVE Pixar! The animation here is totally amazing. It is definitely on my must-see list. ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/34 "2011-06-29T13:32:38Z")
I’m kind of tired of the “kill wild animals” trope from fantasy. And why is a bear the villain? Was this thing scripted by Stephen Colbert? ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/35 "2011-06-29T13:33:47Z")
> [@MilTan](#): > > I thought _Tangled_ did a pretty fantastic job of capturing the aesthetic of classic Disney cell animation in a CGI movie. Not quite the same “painting-like” effect, but it was an impressive achievement. Unfortunately \*Tangled \*was a pretty terrible movie, but I agree it looked good. I am sad that traditional animation seems to be going the way of the Dodo, I think there are many more artistic possibilities available with traditional animation, but I am really liking what Pixar is able to do with their animation style. They are pushing the envelop artistically in interesting ways (no matter what some people in the thread seem to think). ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/36 "2011-06-29T14:39:32Z")
I’m psyched, anyway. There hasn’t been a good Scottish CGI fantasy movie since _How To Train Your Dragon_ ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/37 "2011-06-29T14:43:16Z")
> [@Sailboat](#): > > And why is a bear the villain? I assumed the bear was more of a “threat” than a “villain”. As in, there happened to be an angry bear there, not that the bear was off plotting against her. Of course, I only have the trailer in the OP to go off of. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/38 "2011-06-29T15:05:31Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > I assumed the bear was more of a “threat” than a “villain”. As in, there happened to be an angry bear there, not that the bear was off plotting against her. > > Of course, I only have the trailer in the OP to go off of. I think the fact that the movie was provisionally titled “The Bear and the Bow” is a point against the bear being just an incidental threat. I’m hoping for a werebear… ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/39 "2011-06-29T16:05:42Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > I think the fact that the movie was provisionally titled “The Bear and the Bow” is a point against the bear being just an incidental threat. I’ll take your word on it. As I said, I only saw the trailer and am used to trailers creating dramatic moments that aren’t actually in the film because they want to build a mood without revealing the plot. If that’s what the film had as a working title, I’ll have to agree with you. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/40 "2011-06-29T16:36:20Z")
The teaser trailer for _The Incredibles_ gave no clue as to the depth of the finished product. I remember thinking at the time “A superhero movie? Really? Why are they doing something so worn-out and formulaic?” How wrong I was. If \*Brave \*turns out to be merely a generic fantasy adventure, then, yes, that will be disappointing. But there’s no way to know that based on what’s been released so far. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205.md?page=3)