# Teaser for Pixar's Brave **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 28, 2011, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205 "2011-06-28T23:44:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/41 "2011-06-29T17:55:29Z")
Uhh…the voice over monologue is painfully ungrammatical: _The ancients spoke of it… It is the heart of this fierce land… (…) And when we are put to the test, it is the one thing we must always be…_ (Cue title) _BRAVE_ The ancients spoke of “brave”? “Brave” is the heart of this fierce land? Damn, with only a few sentences to write, you’d think they wouldn’t blow things that badly. That --combined with the cliche “flying over the cliff” camera shot-- doesn’t make me feel good about the film. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/42 "2011-06-29T18:00:59Z")
Quoth **BlackKnight** : > [@](#): > > Unfortunately, I think the cartoony face clashes harshly with the ultra-realistic environment. It’s jarring. I was thinking the same thing. The cartoony style can work, and the landscapes are phenomenal, but they don’t really fit well together. Yeah, you want to avoid the uncanny valley, but there’s still plenty of room between what they have there and the dropoff. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/43 "2011-06-29T18:04:52Z")
> [@Baal\_Houtham](#): > > Uhh…the voice over monologue is painfully ungrammatical: > > _The ancients spoke of it… > It is the heart of this fierce land… > (…) > And when we are put to the test, it is the one thing we must always be…_ > > (Cue title) _BRAVE_ > > The ancients spoke of “brave”? > “Brave” is the heart of this fierce land? > > Damn, with only a few sentences to write, you’d think they wouldn’t blow things that badly. > > That --combined with the cliche “flying over the cliff” camera shot-- doesn’t make me feel good about the film. Or, you know, “brave **ry**.” But Brave is coming right at the end of the line “we must always be.” Seriously though, guys, it’s a 30 second teaser. It’s meant to just give you a small taste of the movie. A movie which probably isn’t even done yet. There’s a little too much “I’m not gonna watch a movie that’s all about a girl who walks a hill to fight a bear” going on in this topic. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/44 "2011-06-29T18:31:28Z")
> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#): > > The teaser trailer for _The Incredibles_ gave no clue as to the depth of the finished product. I remember thinking at the time “A superhero movie? Really? Why are they doing something so worn-out and formulaic?” How wrong I was. As I recall, it was just the red phone blinking, someone (Mr. I) answering it and then Mr. Incredible having trouble fitting into his superhero outfit with his belt violently snapping off. “Haha! It’s all about a fat superhero!” ---
**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/45 "2011-06-29T18:36:34Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > It’s meant to just give you a small taste of the movie. If we can get a taste of a film from a 30-second clip, then it’s possible for that taste to be bad. Like I said earlier, the film itself might turn out great. But to the extent that I can judge such a short snippet, I don’t have positive feelings about it. (Other than the fact that Pixar makes good movies more often than not.) ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/46 "2011-06-29T18:37:41Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Unfortunately \*Tangled \*was a pretty terrible movie, Just to offer a counterpoint to your opinion–\*Tangled \*is 89% “Fresh” at Rotten Tomatoes and is pretty highly praised by most people I know who have seen it. I enjoyed it quite a bit, too. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/47 "2011-06-29T18:38:19Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > Ugh, you guys, let’s not let **AT** steal the show. He wants to see an acid flashback version of _Hogg_ on the big screen. > > I thought the teaser looked intriguing. I am fond of Pixar movies, so I will certainly give this one a go. But, the main thing for me was-- IS THAT A FEMALE HERO!!! Pixar _never_ has a female lead! So, if it is, that’s interesting. I wonder what the story is about… 🙂 That’s the big news here. At least it implies she is the lead. ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/48 "2011-06-29T18:43:02Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > I’m hoping for a werebear… I was hoping for a Care Bear. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/49 "2011-06-29T18:46:53Z")
> [@BlackKnight](#): > > If we can get a taste of a film from a 30-second clip, then it’s possible for that taste to be bad. > > Like I said earlier, the film itself might turn out great. But to the extent that I can judge such a short snippet, I don’t have positive feelings about it. (Other than the fact that Pixar makes good movies more often than not.) Oh, I’m not saying people can’t have positive or negative feelings about it. That’s perfectly reasonable. I have positive feelings about it just from that 30 second clip. I think some people just go overboard and pass judgement on an entire movie, as if they’ve already seen it, just from one little clip of a scene that might not even be in the movie. Like the talk about the score and the eagle sound effect. Right now I doubt the score has even been written. ---
**Author:** ![Ura-Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/51bf81/32.png) [@Ura-Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ura-Maru)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/50 "2011-06-29T19:17:08Z")
Honestly, it looks like a very bland videogame trailer. Pretty woods, boring character design, goofy face on the horse. – Baldur’s Gate: The Redheaded Gelfling Chronicles ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/51 "2011-06-29T19:25:17Z")
Pixar’s trailers are always terrible. I can’t think of one that’s really made me want to see the movie. And I’ve loved every last one of them when I finally saw them. I’m used to it now, and looking forward to a good film. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/52 "2011-06-29T19:29:04Z")
Just a note on the character design: one of the advantages of CGI animation is that it’s relatively easy, even late in the production process, to heavily redesign a character without completely disrupting the pipe line. I know first-hand that Pixar’s done that before, and at a later place in the development cycle: a few years back, I involved in making a video game based off of _Ratatouille_, and we had to make some major changes to our animation to keep the came compliant with their design bible, after they made a major revision to how the rats were animated. So, while I expect that the design of the main character is going to be largely the same by the time the film hits screens, I wouldn’t be surprised if there are some major tweaks to reduce the discrepancy between the characters and the backgrounds. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/53 "2011-06-29T19:49:48Z")
There’s nothing there that makes me think “Wow! I can’t wait to see that!” but neither is there anything that makes me think “Boring. Not interested.” Honestly there’s just nothing there to judge yet, good or bad. The quality of the animation looks cool, but that’s standard for Pixar by now. ---
**Author:** ![Aeris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Aeris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeris)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/54 "2011-06-29T20:29:37Z")
I would like to quote one of the comments under the trailer for Brave on YouTube… YES OH MY GOD YES I am so super stoked to watch a movie about a Celtic heroine! I’m just hoping they include some Celtic mythology like a Cu Sith or something. My favorite Disney movies are Pocohontas and Mulan so I’m hoping that Pixar will give me another movie featuring a female heroine to love. ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/55 "2011-06-29T21:41:38Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > What I mean is, with the unbelievable and unprecedented visual power of their unique animation technology, they never even _try_ push the envelope. They don’t go for the truly surreal; they could do amazingly trippy or scary stuff if they wanted to, but they keep making what are basically kids’ movies or at the very least “all-ages” movies that The Whole Family Can Enjoy. Could you imagine what a Terry Gilliam or David Cronenberg could do with this animation technology? Why do you think so many of us are into anime? Hint: adult stories don’t get told by American animation. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/56 "2011-06-29T21:54:07Z")
I’m guessing that the bear and girl will become friends, and that “Brave” might even be the bear’s name. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/57 "2011-06-29T22:14:52Z")
Oh my God, if they have decided to save their first genuinely sucky film for the first film to feature a female protagonist, I’m going to have such a fit… ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/58 "2011-06-29T22:26:40Z")
The uncanny valley should be shunned; so a cartoony face is good. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/59 "2011-06-29T22:51:02Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > Oh my God, if they have decided to save their first genuinely sucky film for the first film to feature a female protagonist, I’m going to have such a fit… “Cars 2” is already released, so no, they haven’t. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2011, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/60 "2011-06-29T22:58:22Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > Oh my God, if they have decided to save their first genuinely sucky film for the first film to feature a female protagonist, I’m going to have such a fit… Sucky??? It’s 20 seconds of a girl on a horse! It tells you nothing on its quality! How can anyone pass judgement so dismissively? Does fifteen years of amazing films count for nothing? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205.md?page=4)