# Teaser for Pixar's Brave **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 28, 2011, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205 "2011-06-28T23:44:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/81 "2011-07-01T04:05:22Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Seems to me that when you’ve got really pretty landscapes, as they do here, you want to show them off. And the camera flying off the cliff is a tried-and-true method for showing off pretty landscapes. Hi Mr. **Chronos**. The cliff shot is not a huge thing, but after I see theDisney logo at the start of anything Pixar, I’m ready to think the worst. I don’t think cliff shots are a good way to show scenic beauty. They’re a way to surprise the audience. It’s a very dramatic effect, and like anything dramatic it gets trite pretty quick. –An extreme facial close-up of someone reacting to a big plot twist. –Heros striding away, as a building blows up behind them. –A object being thrust directly at the camera …in a 3-D film. Dramatic, but now cliched. Same thing with a cliff fly-over. Historically those sequences are shot with a helicopter, but with computer animation there’s a new world of camera angles to be explored. No need to embrace the old cheese. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/82 "2011-07-01T04:09:59Z")
OK, I can see that if you think of the purpose of the camera-off-a-cliff as being to surprise the audience, then it would clearly suffer from over-use, since it’s not surprising any more. I never thought of it that way, though. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/83 "2011-07-01T10:14:10Z")
> [@Infovore](#): > > Come on, let’s be reasonable. Pixar doesn’t _make_ “genuinely sucky movies.” Even their worst movie is better than the majority of animated (CGI or otherwise) crap that comes out of the studios. You might not like a particular Pixar film, but to call any of them “genuinely sucky” is a little extreme–even, given their previous track record, one that hasn’t been released yet and we’ve only seen a teaser trailer for. What? [Cars 2: Pixar’s first critical flop?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=613596) 34% on RottenTomatoes. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/84 "2011-07-01T11:44:21Z")
Is there any evidence whatsoever that the bear talks? ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/85 "2011-07-01T11:52:30Z")
> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > Is there any evidence whatsoever that the bear talks? I don’t even know if Red MacRedhead has any lines. ---
**Author:** ![Acid\_Lamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Acid\_Lamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acid_Lamp)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2011, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205/86 "2011-07-01T12:30:41Z")
Trailer looks good. I’m stoked about seeing a real celtic story. **Argent Towers** , there are some feature being produced by American studios for adults but by and large they aren’t going to the big screen. I just streamed Batman: Under the Red Hood on netflix and was _very_ surprised at the plot and storyline. The body count rivals most action movies and plenty of characters die and are killed in frame. Not a kids movie. Unboxed sort of spoiler below The film starts with the Joker beating Robin to within inches of his life with a crowbar. On screen. In one scene the Joker is being hired by another crime syndicate character. He suddenly grabs a gun, mows down everyone in the room except the boss and his assistant and then requests addtional men for help. “I’ll need some men. But not _these_ men, these one’s are dead.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-for-pixars-brave/587205.md?page=4)