# Teaser trailer for Charlie and the Chocolate Factory **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 11, 2004, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-trailer-for-charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory/279287 "2004-12-11T08:08:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Catfood\_Purrito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Catfood\_Purrito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catfood_Purrito)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-trailer-for-charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory/279287/1 "2004-12-11T08:08:17Z")
Johnny Depp is [scaring](http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1313539&sdm=web&qtw=480&qth=300) me. What do you guys think of it? I haven’t decided just yet. I’m leaning towards pretty nifty, though. ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-trailer-for-charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory/279287/2 "2004-12-11T10:44:30Z")
Ugh. I have a feeling that this is going to be a critical and commercial flop. I thought it was a bad idea to remake this from the beginning, and this trailer bears out my fears. Depp looks like a cross between the transvestite in The Rocky Horror Picture Show and Marilyn Manson. It looks like a horror film. Hell, maybe it _is_ a horror film. If so, then it works. ---
**Author:** ![Malodorous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47774/32.png) [@Malodorous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malodorous)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-trailer-for-charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory/279287/3 "2004-12-11T11:31:06Z")
It looks…well a lot like the original, but with more CGI. I really don’t see any reason to revisist the original. It has held up well, and I don’t really see how it can be improved by updating the special effects. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Mapp](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miss_mapp/32/369_2.png) [@Miss\_Mapp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Mapp)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-trailer-for-charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory/279287/4 "2004-12-11T11:35:54Z")
I saw the trailer yesterday. I don’t know what to make of the movie yet; it doesn’t look markedly different from the '70’s version, perhaps a little more creepy. But I’m wondering if I’ll ever get that song out of my head now. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-trailer-for-charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory/279287/5 "2004-12-11T13:06:45Z")
I definitely want to see a creepier version of the story. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-trailer-for-charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory/279287/6 "2004-12-11T13:30:29Z")
A creepier story would definitely be more true to the book. I admit, I’m looking forward to this more than any 30 year old woman should in polite company. But, yeah, I’m sort of disappointed that the art design looks so similar to the old version. I expected more…darkness from Tim Burton. Where’s all the grey and black? ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-trailer-for-charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory/279287/7 "2004-12-11T13:50:21Z")
I’m a bit disappointed. I don’t think the trailer looked creepy at all. I suppose the shot of Mike Teevee - wonder if they’ll change it to Veegee - could have been aimed at being disturbing. Might’ve just been the music though. I worry that Tim Burton has excised all the obvious darkness in the story to make some bright, cheerful, and happy version. As a kid, I kind of understood that there may be something deeply wrong with Willie Wonka thanks in part to the director and Gene Wilders brilliant performance. You knew that if you stepped out of line, something bad was going to happen. It’s just a teaser and all, but I didn’t get that feeling from this Wonka. Still, Tim Burton, Johnny Depp, and the possible sodomizing of a cherished childhood classic for profit; I’ll pony up the money to take the family. ---
**Author:** ![Liz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/liz/32/17737_2.png) [@Liz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liz)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-trailer-for-charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory/279287/8 "2004-12-11T13:55:33Z")
Well, Burton had to have a flop after the wonderfulness that was **Big Fish** , so I’ll forgive him. From the trailer, Willie Wonka… does not look like a masterpiece. However, I’ll withhold judgment for now. I do kind of wish they’d have managed to get Marilyn Manson as Wonka, though. That said, no one will ever, ever, ever top Gene Wilder. ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-trailer-for-charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory/279287/9 "2004-12-11T14:18:52Z")
Gene Wilder is a durned hard act to follow. Then again, Johnny Depp’s no slouch. And they got Danny Elfman for the music. I’ll take a chance on it. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-trailer-for-charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory/279287/10 "2004-12-11T14:36:17Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > I definitely want to see a creepier version of the story. Willy Wonka and the Dark Chocolate Factory? ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-trailer-for-charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory/279287/11 "2004-12-11T14:37:04Z")
Bear in mind that Burton isn’t remaking the 1971 _film_; he’s going back to the source material to film a version of Roald Dahl’s book. And because it’s Tim Burton, the film may be great (or not), but it’s guaranteed to be visually fascinating. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-trailer-for-charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory/279287/12 "2004-12-11T14:49:47Z")
Is he going to keep the Oompah Loompahs as they are portrayed in the book, or he is going to be more _PC._ Since it’s Burton, I hope it’s like the book. ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-trailer-for-charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory/279287/13 "2004-12-11T15:20:49Z")
What was un-PC about the Oompah Loompahs? I haven’t read the book. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-trailer-for-charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory/279287/14 "2004-12-11T15:24:46Z")
> [@Walloon](#): > > What was un-PC about the Oompah Loompahs? I haven’t read the book. Stumpy little midgets from Africa, slaving away for Massa Wonka? Gaahhh! Stoopid song! Get out of my _head!_ ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-trailer-for-charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory/279287/15 "2004-12-11T15:29:34Z")
Do they actually address him as “Massa Wonka”? ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-trailer-for-charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory/279287/16 "2004-12-11T15:30:40Z")
And are they actually called slaves? Or are they employees? ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-trailer-for-charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory/279287/17 "2004-12-11T15:35:27Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > \*Gaahhh! Stoopid song! Get out of my _head!_ Out of your head and right ito mine. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-trailer-for-charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory/279287/18 "2004-12-11T15:35:56Z")
> [@Walloon](#): > > What was un-PC about the Oompah Loompahs? I haven’t read the book. > [@](#): > > “In the version first published, [the Oompa–Loompas were] a tribe of 3,000 amiable black pygmies who have been imported by Mr. Willy Wonka from ‘the very deepest and darkest part of the African jungle where no white man had been before.’ Mr. Wonka keeps them in the factory, where they have replaced the sacked white workers. Wonka’s little slaves are delighted with their new circumstances, and particularly with their diet of chocolate. Before they lived on green caterpillars, beetles, eucalyptus leaves, ‘and the bark of the bong–bong tree.’” [Jeremy Treglown’s Roald Dahl: A Biography] From [this site](http://www.roalddahlfans.com/books/charoompa.php) ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-trailer-for-charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory/279287/19 "2004-12-11T15:37:46Z")
Dang! Hit Submit too soon. It continues: > [@](#): > > Dahl’s publishers decided that “to those growing up in a racially mixed society, the Oompa–Loompas were no longer acceptable as originally written. The following year [1973], to accompany its new sequel, Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator, a revised edition of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory appeared, in which the Oompa–Loompas had become dwarfish hippies with long ‘golden–brown hair’ and ‘rosy–white’ skin.” [Jeremy Treglown’s Roald Dahl: A Biography] ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2004, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-trailer-for-charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory/279287/20 "2004-12-11T15:50:26Z")
I just did an Amazon search through the novel. Oompa-Loompas (note spelling) are from the jungles of Loompaland. They are knee high and have long hair. They are not described as dark skinned. They are employees who by agreement with their tribal leader are paid in their beloved cacao beans. The men Oompa-Loompas wear deerskins, the women wear leaves, and the children wear nothing. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaser-trailer-for-charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory/279287.md?page=2)