# Tebow to sign with Pats. AAAARRRGGGHHH!!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 11, 2013, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tebow-to-sign-with-pats-aaaarrrggghhh/660680 "2013-06-11T00:31:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tebow-to-sign-with-pats-aaaarrrggghhh/660680/21 "2013-06-11T21:03:06Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > and you may recall this team has a guy named Gronkowski. …maybe. Dude’s had a lot of surgeries lately. Maybe there’s some small plan in place to work Tebow out as a 2nd or 3rd TE in the event Gronk doesn’t make it back. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tebow-to-sign-with-pats-aaaarrrggghhh/660680/22 "2013-06-11T21:07:14Z")
Yeah, or maybe they’d sign an actual tight end in that case. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2013, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tebow-to-sign-with-pats-aaaarrrggghhh/660680/23 "2013-06-11T21:24:15Z")
Yeah, but they won’t be all full of win like Tebow. ---
**Author:** ![Alex\_from\_CB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/278dde/32.png) [@Alex\_from\_CB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alex_from_CB)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2013, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tebow-to-sign-with-pats-aaaarrrggghhh/660680/24 "2013-06-13T00:48:40Z")
I have it on good authority that New England acquired Tebow just so they could trade him to the Jets for 2 high draft picks right before the start of the season. ---
**Author:** ![GoodOmens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@GoodOmens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GoodOmens)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2013, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tebow-to-sign-with-pats-aaaarrrggghhh/660680/25 "2013-06-13T11:46:15Z")
> [@blackscratchfever](#): > > Coach Bel will tell him to play TE and he’ll like it! As a Pats fan, to me this sounds like a great idea. Either that or maybe halfback. ---
**Author:** ![Quercus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7ab992/32.png) [@Quercus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quercus)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2013, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tebow-to-sign-with-pats-aaaarrrggghhh/660680/26 "2013-06-13T12:38:54Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Must we go down this hypothetical road? A Patriots team that lost both Brady and the guy who has been backing up Brady for a couple of years would probably not be very good. Right. A Patriots team that lost their starting QB could never compete, let alone reach the playoffs or – inconceivable – win the Super Bowl. IF Bledsoe goes down, really the season is over at that point. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2013, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tebow-to-sign-with-pats-aaaarrrggghhh/660680/27 "2013-06-13T12:55:54Z")
The problem with Tebow and the Jets is that they got him, but refused to make the adjustments necessary to use him effectively (and Tebow also refused to adjust). As a tight end – I don’t think so. The single worst play for the Jets last season (and, yes, I’m taking the butt fumble into consideration) was when Tebow lined up as a receiver and Sanchez threw him a perfect pass – which hit Tebow in the back of the helmet. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tebow-to-sign-with-pats-aaaarrrggghhh/660680/28 "2013-06-19T18:55:34Z")
> [@Quercus](#): > > Right. A Patriots team that lost their starting QB could never compete, let alone reach the playoffs or – inconceivable – win the Super Bowl. With a QB whose track record says he’s crap? No, they couldn’t. Anyway there is still no indication that the Patriots want Tebow as a tight end, but the job may be open anyway: Gronkowski just had (previously scheduled) back surgery and nobody seems sure if he will be ready when the season starts, and [Aaron Hernandez is somehow wrapped up in a homicide investigation](http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/9403377/aaron-hernandez-rental-car-searched-abc) AND [is being sued for shooting a guy in the face](http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/22478039/report-aaron-hernandez-to-be-sued-for-shooting-man-in-the-face). ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tebow-to-sign-with-pats-aaaarrrggghhh/660680/29 "2013-06-19T19:04:22Z")
> [@Quercus](#): > > Right. A Patriots team that lost their starting QB could never compete, let alone reach the playoffs or – inconceivable – win the Super Bowl. IF Bledsoe goes down, really the season is over at that point. And they failed even to make the playoffs when Matt Cassel had to take over as starting QB in Game 1, with virtually no meaningful game time under his belt since _high school._ They were still 11-5 that year, though. Brady’s one of the greats, but don’t discount the system too. ETA: Whatever Tebow does for the Pats this year, the Jets are \*still \*paying most of his salary. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tebow-to-sign-with-pats-aaaarrrggghhh/660680/30 "2013-06-19T19:19:54Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > And they failed even to make the playoffs when Matt Cassel had to take over as starting QB in Game 1, with virtually no meaningful game time under his belt since _high school._ > > They were still 11-5 that year, though. Brady’s one of the greats, but don’t discount the system too. While they do have a good system, they also had a historically easy schedule that year. More recently they’ve had problems finding halfway decent wideouts and their defense has been very shaky. Compare that to the Broncos, who had a very strong defense in 2011. Meanwhile I think the Patriots made this move because they think they might be able to add some interesting quirks to their offense at almost no risk, not because they think he’ll let them be competitive if Brady and Ryan Mallett (he of the one career completion) go down. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tebow-to-sign-with-pats-aaaarrrggghhh/660680/31 "2013-06-19T19:27:47Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > They were still 11-5 that year, though. Brady’s one of the greats, but don’t discount the system too. You’ve got to wonder about how much difference he’d make, though. If Brady was there against the Colts, maybe that’s not a 3 point loss and they win the division instead of losing on the tie-breaker. Or maybe that first game where Miami unleashes the Wildcat goes differently. Or in their OT game against the Jets. Would Brady have been enough for a key TD in the right game (especially that Colts game) or not? The Pats really only needed somebody just slightly better than Matt Cassel to have made the playoffs that year, and that’s not asking a lot. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tebow-to-sign-with-pats-aaaarrrggghhh/660680/32 "2013-06-20T13:04:01Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > With a QB whose track record says he’s crap? No, they couldn’t. Anyway there is still no indication that the Patriots want Tebow as a tight end, but the job may be open anyway: Gronkowski just had (previously scheduled) back surgery and nobody seems sure if he will be ready when the season starts, and [Aaron Hernandez is somehow wrapped up in a homicide investigation](http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/9403377/aaron-hernandez-rental-car-searched-abc) AND [is being sued for shooting a guy in the face](http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/22478039/report-aaron-hernandez-to-be-sued-for-shooting-man-in-the-face). Looks like Tebow might be the starting TE after all! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tebow-to-sign-with-pats-aaaarrrggghhh/660680/33 "2013-06-20T13:53:37Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Looks like Tebow might be the starting TE after all! > > 😉 At minimum he seems to have put some kind of voodoo curse on their other TEs. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tebow-to-sign-with-pats-aaaarrrggghhh/660680/34 "2013-06-20T14:03:40Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > At minimum he seems to have put some kind of voodoo curse on their other TEs. That whole thing with Hernandez is nuts. It doesn’t look all that great for him. The CNN article I read about it seems to indicate that he’s going to be charged with murder. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tebow-to-sign-with-pats-aaaarrrggghhh/660680/35 "2013-06-20T14:39:36Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > That whole thing with Hernandez is nuts. It doesn’t look all that great for him. The CNN article I read about it seems to indicate that he’s going to be charged with murder. So far they haven’t said called him a suspect, but it certainly sounds like they’ll charge him with something related to the guy’s death. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tebow-to-sign-with-pats-aaaarrrggghhh/660680/36 "2013-06-20T14:43:48Z")
Between the Bruins game last night & Hernandez, the Boston sports talk radio stations were pretty damn interesting this morning. ---
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tebow-to-sign-with-pats-aaaarrrggghhh/660680/37 "2013-06-20T16:40:52Z")
I think Tebow’s only position is QB. It’s the only position he knows how to play. Asking him to learn a new position isn’t going to be as effective as signing someone who’s been playing XXX their entire life. Tebow might have guts and grit but so does pretty much everyone in the NFL, especially at the positions Tebow is projected to switch to. BB signed Tebow solely for the purpose of 3rd/4th and inches. He’s not going to risk Brady anymore for those qb dives/sneaks. Just let Tebow go in there and do what he does. I don’t think there’s anything more to it. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tebow-to-sign-with-pats-aaaarrrggghhh/660680/38 "2013-06-20T16:53:03Z")
Dunno, he could maybe play the slot too, as long as he can run a precise route Brady can time. Maybe be Amendola’s backup in the old Welker role. With a little luck, maybe he can grow up to be Julian Edelman, and return punts and back up at DB too. The roster hole is going to be at TE now, obviously, with Gronk always getting hurt and Hernandez going to prison. The Pats can get a good blocker or two easily enough, but they’ll need other guys to catch the ball. I am not ready to be a Michael Hoomanawanui fan yet. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tebow-to-sign-with-pats-aaaarrrggghhh/660680/39 "2013-06-20T17:13:24Z")
> [@pancakes3](#): > > BB signed Tebow solely for the purpose of 3rd/4th and inches. He’s not going to risk Brady anymore for those qb dives/sneaks. Just let Tebow go in there and do what he does. I don’t think there’s anything more to it. I think you can extend that out to include 4-5 yards out from the goal line. That’s what Tebow does extremely well. From a fantasy perspective, it drops Ridley and Vereen off my board (I’ll let them be someone else’s frustration), and knocks Brady down a round or two. ---
**Author:** ![WreckingCrew](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wreckingcrew/32/4080_2.png) [@WreckingCrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WreckingCrew)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tebow-to-sign-with-pats-aaaarrrggghhh/660680/40 "2013-06-20T17:33:34Z")
Yeah, but two things: 1. Brady has the best percentage of getting a first down on QB sneaks in the past six years. 2. Besides being good at it, Brady also gets them because teams don’t dare stack the box against him, because his short passing game is so good. Tebow, on the other hand, can’t hit a short pass to save his life. It is a lot harder to get that one yard when everyone in the stadium knows it is going to be a QB keeper. The only real use I can see for Tebow is holder on kicks. The two or three times a year you either want to run a fake, or there is a bad snap are just the kind of fire drill plays he is good at pulling something useful out of his ass. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tebow-to-sign-with-pats-aaaarrrggghhh/660680.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tebow-to-sign-with-pats-aaaarrrggghhh/660680.md?page=3)