# Technology doesn't work that way - SamuelA's Pit Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 3, 2017, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420 "2017-12-03T00:52:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/181 "2017-12-28T17:44:09Z")
Sammy. Try to understand, it’s not you. We don’t know you. We only know you from what you post. You’re young and excited about technology. You let that excitement get in the way of reality sometimes. That’s why people get on your ass. It’s not too late. All you have to do is listen to people who have more knowledge than you do in the fields you explore. Listen and learn. Asking “why” will never get you piled on. Telling experts that they are wrong because they won’t listen to you, will get you piled on. You’re here in an world of people who have vastly different interests and education than you. Ask just about any question, and someone will have an answer or tell you where the answer is. Free exchange of ideas, even far out ideas, is fine here. Your questions aren’t the problem, it’s your response to those who respond with facts you don’t like that leads to the problems. If I was in your position I’d immediately unblock those who you’ve blocked. I’d start asking “why” instead of telling experts how it really is. A year from now, you’ll find that listening makes you much smarter than talking ever could. ---
**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/182 "2017-12-28T17:44:43Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > My citations are thus: > > 1. My I.Q. has three digits, not two. > 2. Reality > 3. “Fog in a vacuum”…_riiiight_ Ok, there’s enough for ignore. Reasons are : 1. I don’t even consider this an insult. I’ve taken IQ tests, I know what it is, and you should be able to tell it’s above average. If you can’t, well, that reveals a failing on your part, not mine. If you call a supermodel ugly, you’re just proving that you’re blind and they are not going to be hurt. Insults need to have a grain of truth to work. 2. What are you claiming reality about? 3. You do know that fog can be other liquids than water, and some liquids are stable enough to form a fog briefly in vacuum. Did you read Lost Moon by Jim Lovell and Jeffrey Kluger? Of course you didn’t. There was a visible fog of liquid oxygen vapor when they blew their oxygen tank. Anyways even that wouldn’t be enough, but you’ve made meaningless insults about 8 more times in this thread as well. Really, making fun of my eyes? What kind of low brow insult is that? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/183 "2017-12-28T17:45:19Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > A while. I only put complete waste of space posters on it. The guy who claims to work at Stanford who claims that letting a patient rot until they are braindead is “good” while freezing them before then is definitely murder is “evil”? At least he was willing to consider each argument independently. > > He didn’t sweepingly just call me a shill for some unspecified idea or company like running coach has or claim that 100% of everything I have posted is crackpot like you did. That’s the reason you are on ignore and he is not. Are you using a definition of “ignore” that has yet to be released to the general public? ---
**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/184 "2017-12-28T17:47:24Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Sammy. Try to understand, it’s not you. We don’t know you. we only know you from what you post. You’re young and excited about technology. You let the excitement get in the way of reality sometimes. That’s why people get on your ass. > > It’s not too late. All you have to do is listen to people who have more knowledge than you do in the fields you explore. Listen and learn. Asking “why” will never get you piled on. Telling experts that are wrong because they won’t listen to you, will get you piled on. > > You’re here in the midst of a collection of people who have vastly different interests and education. Ask just about any question, and someone will have an answer or tell you where the answer is. > Free exchange of ideas, even far out ideas, is fine here. Your questions aren’t the problem, it’s your response to those who respond with facts you don’t like leads to the problems. > > If I was in your position I’d immediately unblock those who you’ve blocked. > I’d start asking “why” instead of telling experts how it really is. > A year from now, you’ll find that listening makes you much smarter than talking ever could. Running coach, Darren Garrison, Czarism…what are they experts in? Why should I listen to them if they won’t do more than make generic insults? I do ask why. What kind of “expert” calls someone a nanodick? What kind of “expert” disagrees on every single thread I ever make but can’t give a technical reason why? Not only is that childish, if I did have a nanodick, it wouldn’t be my fault, now, would it? Why would that offend me? No, what would offend me is the truth. I have a large dick but I rarely get to use it. Now _that’s_ something to insult someone over. That would be genuinely hurtful if someone made fun of me for that. Since that would mean I was unsuccessful in my ‘spitting game’ to attract mates, something that would theoretically be within my control. If I had a nanodick, that would simply mean that nature decided not to equip me for that at all. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/185 "2017-12-28T17:50:10Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > Ok, there’s enough for ignore. Reasons are : > > 1. I don’t even consider this an insult. I’ve taken IQ tests, I know what it is, and you should be able to tell it’s above average. If you can’t, well, that reveals a failing on your part, not mine. If you call a supermodel ugly, you’re just proving that you’re blind and they are not going to be hurt. Insults need to have a grain of truth to work. > > 2. What are you claiming reality about? > > 3. You do know that fog can be other liquids than water, and some liquids are stable enough to form a fog briefly in vacuum. Did you read Lost Moon by Jim Lovell and Jeffrey Kluger? Of course you didn’t. There was a visible fog of liquid oxygen vapor when they blew their oxygen tank. > > Anyways even that wouldn’t be enough, but you’ve made meaningless insults about 8 more times in this thread as well. Really, making fun of my eyes? What kind of low brow insult is that? “Low-brow”, not “low brow”. edited to add: This “Czarism” person really seems to have ticked you off. What did he say? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/186 "2017-12-28T17:50:24Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > Ok, there’s enough for ignore. Reasons are : > > 1. I don’t even consider this an insult. I’ve taken IQ tests, I know what it is, and you should be able to tell it’s above average. If you can’t, well, that reveals a failing on your part, not mine. If you call a supermodel ugly, you’re just proving that you’re blind and they are not going to be hurt. Insults need to have a grain of truth to work. > > 2. What are you claiming reality about? > > 3. You do know that fog can be other liquids than water, and some liquids are stable enough to \*\*form a fog briefly in vacuum. \*\* Did you read Lost Moon by Jim Lovell and Jeffrey Kluger? Of course you didn’t. There was a visible fog of liquid oxygen vapor when they blew their oxygen tank. > > Anyways even that wouldn’t be enough, but you’ve made meaningless insults about 8 more times in this thread as well. Really, making fun of my eyes? What kind of low brow insult is that? It doesn’t _stay_ a fog. I could go outside on a cold day and create a “fog”. Doesn’t mean it’s now a foggy day. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/187 "2017-12-28T17:53:13Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > … > > No, what would offend me is the truth. I have a large dick but I rarely get to use it. Now _that’s_ something to insult someone over. That would be genuinely hurtful if someone made fun of me for that. Well, better stand by. I know these people pretty well, and I predict the next 2 pages will be about your dick. Now, you can let it piss you off, or you can laugh with them. I’d suggest the latter. ---
**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/188 "2017-12-28T17:54:05Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > It doesn’t _stay_ a fog. > I could go outside on a cold day and create a “fog”. Doesn’t mean it’s now a foggy day. This is quite pedantic and irrelevant for the general point. Which is that if you have a fog, and want to move that fog, and all you have is a device that creates sharp, sudden impulses like a gun, you can in fact move the fog by shooting it if you load the gun with projectiles that are small relative to fog size. So if a rubble pile asteroid were coming to the earth, you might have to use smaller nukes detonated very close to each major piece of that asteroid. Running coach, what do you consider yourself an expert in? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/189 "2017-12-28T17:57:53Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > This is quite pedantic and irrelevant for the general point. Which is that if you have a fog, and want to move that fog, and all you have is a device that creates sharp, sudden impulses like a gun, you can in fact move the fog by shooting it if you load the gun with projectiles that are small relative to fog size. > > So if a rubble pile asteroid were coming to the earth, you might have to use smaller nukes detonated very close to each major piece of that asteroid. > > **Running coach, what do you consider yourself an expert in?** What do you think? Doesn’t mean I don’t know you’re blowing [del]smoke[/del] fog. [Ignore](http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ignore?s=t) > [@](#): > > verb (used with object), ignored, ignoring. > 1. > to refrain from noticing or recognizing: ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/190 "2017-12-28T18:01:23Z")
I will say “I don’t get laid a lot” is a novel defense of scientific obdurism. (Is that a word? It is now!) ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/191 "2017-12-28T18:08:11Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > I have a large dick but I rarely get to use it. Just to remind everyone, have you considered making “Large Dick” your personalized title? ---
**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/192 "2017-12-28T18:10:49Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I will say “I don’t get laid a lot” is a novel defense of scientific obdurism. (Is that a word? It is now!) I would say that “reading a comment about my dick size and assuming it applies to a different topic” is simple illiteracy, myself. Also, yeah, obdurism isn’t a word. Did you mean something with a root word of obstinate? Which all good scientists should be : you do have to assume basic laws of physics are correct or you’re not going to get anywhere, and ignore anyone like Darren Garrison who says otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/193 "2017-12-28T18:13:18Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > I would say that “reading a comment about my dick size and assuming it applies to a different topic” is simple illiteracy, myself. You brought it up…or at least pointed it in the general direction, considering. ---
**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/194 "2017-12-28T18:14:28Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > What do you think? Doesn’t mean I don’t know you’re blowing [del]smoke[/del] fog. > > [Ignore](http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ignore?s=t) You’ve made 30k posts here, but I got bored when the last 500 were about Trump. He’s a bad man and there’s nothing we can do about it, jeez. As for “ignore”, this simply means I choose when to read a post by you. Morgenstern said I should give you another chance but so far you haven’t even attempted to claim to be someone I should read the posts of. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/195 "2017-12-28T18:19:32Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > I would say that “reading a comment about my dick size and assuming it applies to a different topic” is simple illiteracy, myself. Also, yeah, obdurism isn’t a word. Did you mean something with a root word of obstinate? Which all good scientists should be : you do have to assume basic laws of physics are correct or you’re not going to get anywhere, and ignore anyone like Darren Garrison who says otherwise. Lol. Well, let’s note for the record that you brought up your dick size _and_ how often you get to use it (or not). What did you expect? And this is English, the biggest whore of a language there ever was. It is quite kosher to both steal and make up words, amirite? [Oh, and the root word you’re struggling to come up with is “obdurate”.] > **[Definition of OBDURATE](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/obdurate)** > > stubbornly persistent in wrongdoing; hardened in feelings; resistant to persuasion or softening influences… See the full definition ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/196 "2017-12-28T18:21:59Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > How many of those jobs do you suppose exist, vs ‘code monkey’ positions that are generic? In order to do what you are saying, I’d have to be 10 years younger, I’d have to have richer parents so I could afford SAT prep courses (I missed some points on the math section, ironically), maybe if people didn’t bully me in high school I would have had better grades. > > Jobs like you are describing basically require a PhD from MIT or Stanford and a shit-ton of luck. There’s only one Ray Kurzweil, and he was ignored for a very long time, and he spent his whole life shilling dubious predictions\*. > > Has it occurred to you that there are probably many people like me, but society at the present time lacks interest in such visionary efforts? > > Remember the post I felt the most passionate about? There’s a very real (from a “laws of physics view”) possibility we could be preserving human brains right before death in a way that works. > > Other people with far more reputation than me have pointed this out. They have mostly been ignored. Not with arguments based on fact, generally, but mainly a bunch of tired ideas that are bullshit…but most people believe them. Ideas like “if people didn’t die, the earth would be overcrowded”. “if people didn’t die, no social justice progress would be made”. “you’ll never see heaven if you remain alive”. And other total malarky. > > So we let a million people a year die and spend 600 billion year on a gigantic military to “protect” our citizens from possible death from foreign attack. Oh and even more than that on medicare, which shovels money to institutions to “memory care” for patients who are steadily degrading from dementia. > > You call \*me \*a crackpot for proposing brain preservation. “memory care” is literally a medical treatment that doesn’t work at all. It does fuck all. The dementia patients keep getting worse. You can give an elderly person physical therapy so they can use a spoon again and then they’ll just forget it. At least if you froze them, there’s a chance. > > So yeah, I wish I could do more with my life. But I can’t. And it’s probably only a little my fault. This kid is one lab accident away from becoming [del]super[/del] amateur-villain. You’ll be sorry! You’ll ALL BE SORRY!! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/197 "2017-12-28T18:25:13Z")
I can’t link to You Tube at work, otherwise there would be the obligatory “Stupid! Stupid!” clip from _Plan 9 From Outer Space_ in this post. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/198 "2017-12-28T18:27:14Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > {…} The guy who claims to work at Stanford who claims that letting a patient rot until they are braindead is “good” while freezing them before then is definitely murder is “evil”? {…} Until you / they can figure out exactly how to freeze someone that isn’t currently dead\* without killing them I’m pretty sure that is gonna be murder in most jurisdictions. \*'Cause ya ain’t reallllly dead if your brain ain’t dead, “mostly dead” ain’t something taught in med school! CMC fnord! Now, will I win that coveted spot on someone’s “Ignore List”? ---
**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/199 "2017-12-28T18:27:48Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Lol. Well, let’s note for the record that you brought up your dick size _and_ how often you get to use it (or not). What did you expect? > > And this is English, the biggest whore of a language there ever was. It is quite kosher to both steal and make up words, amirite? > > [Oh, and the root word you’re struggling to come up with is “obdurate”.] > > [Obdurate Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/obdurate) Insult for an insult : Definition of obdurate 1 a : stubbornly persistent in wrongdoing an unrepentant, obdurate sinner b : hardened in feelings The obdurate enemy was merciless. 2 : resistant to persuasion or softening influences obdurate in his determination remaining obdurate to her husband’s advances —Edith Wharton Definition of obstinate 1 : stubbornly adhering to an opinion, purpose, or course in spite of reason, arguments, or persuasion obstinate resistance to change 2 : not easily subdued, remedied, or removed obstinate fever Definition of similar 1 : having characteristics in common : strictly comparable So “struggling” would be a rather poor interpretation of the facts given the root word I matched to has a _similar_ definition. I am happy with the performance of my neural network on this task. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/200 "2017-12-28T18:27:54Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > …Morgenstern said I should give you another chance but so far you haven’t even attempted to claim to be someone I should read the posts of. **Sam**. I didn’t say **Running Coach**. \*\*Running Coach \*\*has spam busting to do and we don’t want him wasting time in the pit. Why yesterday I saw RC take 2 full minutes to report one. I was disappointed. Don’t you disappoint me too **Sam**. Learn to learn from people you feel are inferior. You might be surprised. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420.md?page=11)