# Technology doesn't work that way - SamuelA's Pit Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 3, 2017, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420 "2017-12-03T00:52:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/201 "2017-12-28T18:27:54Z")
> [@Nawth\_Chucka](#): > > This thread looks quite different when \*\*SamuelA \*\*is the one on Ignore. And better by a magnitude of thousands, naturally. Skimming by his long posts works very well as well, since you can be sure to have missed nothing at all. ---
**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/202 "2017-12-28T18:31:47Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Until you / they can figure out exactly how to freeze someone that isn’t currently dead\* without killing them I’m pretty sure that is gonna be murder in most jurisdictions. > > \*'Cause ya ain’t reallllly dead if your brain ain’t dead, “mostly dead” ain’t something taught in med school! > > CMC fnord! > Now, will I win that coveted spot on someone’s “Ignore List”? This is a reasonable argument in that it is true that current laws are not designed for this. Remember, it’s totally acceptable to consider a patient dead if their heart stopped, even though in reality you have somewhere between 4 and 30 minutes before they are ‘really, definitely, 100% dead’. (the greater threshold is because there’s some clinical success with longer durations) Remember, also, that the majority religion when these laws were written believes at some point your “soul” detaches from your body to go to heaven or hell, after which if you could successfully revive someone, maybe they’d be soul-less or replaced with a demon or maybe god would punish you for your audacity. If you’re wondering, the last idea I heard expressed by a medical student, and the first 2 are common themes in dozens of movies. So no, you don’t deserve ignore. Now if you said “SamuelA is a crackpot, all his posts are nonsense”, that would be a sweeping insult worthy of becoming the 6th ignore list entry. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/203 "2017-12-28T18:32:10Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > This kid is one lab accident away from becoming [del]super[/del] amateur-villain. > > You’ll be sorry! You’ll ALL BE SORRY!! Nah, he’ll become a Big Damn Hero when an asteroid approaches Earth and he slaps it away with his giant dick. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/204 "2017-12-28T18:33:40Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > To a CS-trained mind, the world is not only more complex than we understand, it’s more complex than we can understand. We, the CS gurus, lose our ability to recognize all the ways in which the messy substrates of the real world are not nearly so tractable as the clean, simple, and manmade substrate of pure math & logic. We spend so much time succeeding at managing spherical cows to good effect that we forget about the messy reality of real flesh-and-blood cows. > > It’s a common failing of CS people. But it can be worked past. You are way too kind **LSLGuy** , and I love you for it. I think **SamuelA** might have a lot of interesting ideas about highly technical subjects, but even in something fairly simple to understand he displays a lack of even basic reading comprehension and works himself into a frenzy of abusive, belittling language. He is far more concerned about proving that he has a superior grasp of everything than actually understanding fully what is being talked about. Some of this has nothing to do with being a CS major and much more to do with coming from a standpoint of fear and anxiety about being wring about something. But maybe I’m projecting; if he is as young as I believe him to be, then at his age I was at least just as bad. This just makes me feel a little sad and sorry for him, he will probably have many difficult years ahead of him, hopefully he listens to some of what you have to say. Or maybe he’s just fine how he is - I don’t know, I’m not a psychologist, I fix bicycles for a living. But my cat loves me, so that’s something. She’s fast asleep on my arm right now, it’s sooo cute, and also provides a reasonable amount of warmth. Maybe **SamuelA** should get a cat. Anyhow, here is the thread I’m talking about : [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=842937](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=842937) He can’t figure out the different meanings of the words tax lien and lender foreclosure. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/205 "2017-12-28T18:34:01Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I can’t link to You Tube at work, otherwise there would be the obligatory “Stupid! Stupid!” clip from _Plan 9 From Outer Space_ in this post. [“STUPID! STUPID!”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhvDMhrws1o) ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/206 "2017-12-28T18:36:45Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > Insult for an insult : > > Definition of obdurate > 1 a : stubbornly persistent in wrongdoing an unrepentant, obdurate sinner > b : hardened in feelings The obdurate enemy was merciless. > 2 : resistant to persuasion or softening influences obdurate in his determination > remaining obdurate to her husband’s advances —Edith Wharton > > Definition of obstinate > 1 : stubbornly adhering to an opinion, purpose, or course in spite of reason, arguments, or persuasion obstinate resistance to change > 2 : not easily subdued, remedied, or removed obstinate fever > > Definition of similar > 1 : having characteristics in common : strictly comparable > > So “struggling” would be a rather poor interpretation of the facts given the root word I matched to has a _similar_ definition. I am happy with the performance of my neural network on this task. You struggled on the point of realizing that the root of “obdurism” is “obdurate”. No matter how many words you throw at us, you still messed it up. It’s OK, man. It really is. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/207 "2017-12-28T18:37:34Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > [“STUPID! STUPID!”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhvDMhrws1o) I will trust you used the right clip-Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/208 "2017-12-28T18:38:10Z")
> [@Mr.Nylock](#): > > Or maybe he’s just fine how he is - I don’t know, I’m not a psychologist, I fix bicycles for a living. But my cat loves me, so that’s something. She’s fast asleep on my arm right now, it’s sooo cute, and also provides a reasonable amount of warmth. Maybe **SamuelA** should get a cat. > > Anyhow, here is the thread I’m talking about : > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=842937](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=842937) > > He can’t figure out the different meanings of the words tax lien and lender foreclosure. Both involve an auction, right… In that thread, you didn’t bother to specify what the differences _were_. I’m sure there are slight procedural differences\*, but how does that matter? My point from the beginning was the house must sell for a lot less than it’s worth, or there’s no point in buying it and flipping it. This is basic mathematics. And I pointed out that whatever the procedures _were_, it must be cheating the homeowner, in practice the homeowner must lose a lot more than the mere back taxes they owe. And I established that point solidly with evidence and math and you just claimed I was ignorant and drifted off. You’re just pitting yourself here. \*county by county. Some counties probably use the exact same procedure for foreclosures and tax lien sales… ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/209 "2017-12-28T18:40:05Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I will trust you used the right clip-Thank you. It’s the one with bukaki, that’s what you wanted, right? ---
**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/210 "2017-12-28T18:41:17Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > You struggled on the point of realizing that the root of “obdurism” is “obdurate”. No matter how many words you throw at us, you still messed it up. It’s OK, man. It really is. And it’s ok for you to not realize that the definitions of both words are so \*similar \*(your new word of the day!) that my answer was still correct. It’s also ok for you to feel superior that because you know a rarely used English word and I didn’t, that must mean you are smarter than me. Why, if you’re smarter than me, that must mean you’re right about everything and I’m not. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/211 "2017-12-28T18:41:19Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > Both involve an auction, right… Thank you. You have redeemed yourself in my eyes. Please don’t put me on your ignore list, the content you provide is truly entertaining at times. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/212 "2017-12-28T18:41:51Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > [“STUPID! STUPID!”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhvDMhrws1o) [Brain and brain! What is brain](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzuXqzdYmTQ)? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/213 "2017-12-28T18:42:24Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > You’re just pitting yourself here. I believe this is the second time you’ve tried this comeback…and I also believe that if this were true, the other posters in this thread would be insulting his dickishness, not yours. ---
**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/214 "2017-12-28T18:44:31Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I believe this is the second time you’ve tried this comeback…and I also believe that if this were true, the other posters in this thread would be insulting his dickishness, not yours. Maybe all the other posters are too mentally lazy to click the link and read the thread and analyze it. Shrug. Humans are stupid, what can I say. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/215 "2017-12-28T18:46:23Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > It’s the one with bukaki, that’s what you wanted, right? Not for the message board-That one is PM only! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/216 "2017-12-28T18:51:21Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > Maybe all the other posters are too mentally lazy to click the link and read the thread and analyze it. Shrug. Humans are stupid, what can I say. So this is what it is like to be on someone’s “Ignore” list. Interesting. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/217 "2017-12-28T18:51:32Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > Shrug. Humans are stupid, what can I say. [Yes, we heard you.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qro7oBzUBos) ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/218 "2017-12-28T18:52:41Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > And it’s ok for you to not realize that the definitions of both words are so \*similar \*(your new word of the day!) that my answer was still correct. It’s also ok for you to feel superior that because you know a rarely used English word and I didn’t, that must mean you are smarter than me. Why, if you’re smarter than me, that must mean you’re right about everything and I’m not. Are you self-aware enough to understand that your argument that “close enough is good enough” in regards to English is the same defense you use in regards to scientific principles? Are you knowledgable enough to realize “close enough” is _not_ a scientific principle, even though you constantly argue as if it is? Rule: You can’t conduct science by using analogies! ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/219 "2017-12-28T18:54:40Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > [Yes, we heard you.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qro7oBzUBos) Don’t you mean [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZuktUfF0nE)? ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2017, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/220 "2017-12-28T18:54:47Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Lol. Well, let’s note for the record that you brought up your dick size _and_ how often you get to use it (or not). What did you expect? > > And this is English, the biggest whore of a language there ever was. It is quite kosher to both steal and make up words, amirite? It is not only kosher, it’s perfectly cromulent and embiggens our language. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420.md?page=12)