# Technology doesn't work that way - SamuelA's Pit Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 3, 2017, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420 "2017-12-03T00:52:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/421 "2018-01-03T19:56:20Z")
Ooh, ooh, ooh! Can I board the Ignore Train? Please? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/422 "2018-01-03T19:57:03Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > Religious people are stupid. Ignoring. Reality says you are an idiot. Is that why you have Reality on ignore? ---
**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/423 "2018-01-03T19:57:46Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Immensely entertaining. It’s the gift that keeps on posting! > > If only you limited your stupidity to just this one thread, we’d all be grateful. But no. You insist on polluting multiple board forums with your brand of ignorance. So much so that it’s earned you your very own dedicated ass kicking. My standardized test scores reveal you are the one who must be stupid. Going ahead and ignoring. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/424 "2018-01-03T19:58:29Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > Religious people are stupid. Ignoring. Someone want to clue Bozo The Plumber in? :smack::rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/425 "2018-01-03T19:58:45Z")
Shit, shit, shit… time is running out. Sam, you’re both obdurate AND 16 years old! (Crosses fingers) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/426 "2018-01-03T20:02:44Z")
> [@Dallas\_Jones](#): > > I’m not going to take the time to slog through all 9 pages of this excellent thread to find out if someone has pointed out the utter lack of real life experience shown in post #5 of the tread below. > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=846040](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=846040) “I linked the reference in my post. Try reading it.” Sammy just can’t resist being smug and condescending every time he “speaks”, can he? I suspect that this winning personality expands into his actions in meatspace, too–which helps explain why he rarely gets to use his huge dick. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/427 "2018-01-03T20:02:46Z")
Sam, you’re a, a, a…_mendicant!_\* \*…a free beer to the first person who gets the reference. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/428 "2018-01-03T20:03:45Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Sam, you’re a, a, a…_mendicant!_\* > > \*…a free beer to the first person who gets the reference. I don’t drink, can I have cheese dip instead? And some mulch? ---
**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/429 "2018-01-03T20:03:55Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Shit, shit, shit… time is running out. > > Sam, you’re both obdurate AND 16 years old! > > (Crosses fingers) I read through the whole thread. You made too many reasonable sounding, positive posts. Even when you were offensive you admitted you could be wrong about things. You even made funny references to Weird Science. Thread reads much cleaner with just Tripler, you, K9friendfinder, LSLguy, and a few randoms on the first page. No longer does it read like childish insults on a bathroom wall. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/430 "2018-01-03T20:07:42Z")
Sorry, guys-you’re stuck with him. He’ll be like the village idiot you never had. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/431 "2018-01-03T20:08:18Z")
…fuuuuuuuuuuuddddddgggggge… ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/432 "2018-01-03T20:12:05Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > My standardized test scores reveal you are the one who must be stupid. it is so delicious and so funny he actually thinks he is making some score here. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/433 "2018-01-03T20:14:26Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > I don’t drink, can I have cheese dip instead? And some mulch? We have a winnah! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/434 "2018-01-03T20:15:22Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Sorry, guys-you’re stuck with him. He’ll be like the village idiot you never had. **Clothahump’s** gonna be _pissed_ he’s been replaced. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/435 "2018-01-03T20:43:54Z")
> [@Tripler](#): > > I don’t know Computer Science, and I don’t know the criteria for ‘Turing Complete.’ But I do know the argumentative redirects of an obstinate royal diva when I see one, and later today I intend to drag your ass back through your nuclear nonsense to get some answers out of you. Case in point, your wild assumptions applied through Fermi “estimates” have reduced respectable Fermi estimates to nothing more than “WAGs” (wild assed guesses). Poor Enrico is spinning in his grave. I will get to those nuclear inconsistencies this afternoon. I’m enjoying your posts, **Tripler** , and hope you have time to give us more. As for not knowing computer science, no worries. **SamuelA** doesn’t, either. That’s the nice thing about posts that he can’t delete that remain a permanent testament to that fact. For instance, herewith a brief history of our discussion about what “computational” means. First, **SamuelA** makes the clearly false statement [that all cognitive processes are computational](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20690267&postcount=301). When told he is wrong, he asks for “MIT papers” on the subject. Why MIT? But never mind – [I give him one of Kosslyn’s papers, and explain it](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20690315&postcount=306). Then over here, I quote the late Jerry Fodor, a major figure in cognitive science, [flatly contradicting **SamuelA** ’s blithering nonsense](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20692757&postcount=331). [It gets better](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20692862&postcount=333) – much better! Now **SamuelA** shows the world that he doesn’t understand what “Turing complete” means and thinks it’s equivalent to truth tables, calls me a moron, and dismisses Fodor as just a “philosopher” that I’m “parrotting”! And then it really turns hilarious when it gets down to what the term “computational” actually means in the formal context of computer and cognitive sciences. **SamuelA** concocts [an other-worldly nonsensical definition here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20693885&postcount=351). I am then duly warned in that same post, in a line that will go down in SDMB history: **Don’t challenge a computer engineer on their understanding of computation**. 😃 And, neatly doubling down on the stupid, he even asserts that [he doesn’t give a rat’s ass](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20697336&postcount=366) (his own words) about things like symbol processing, which turns out to be part of the fundamental essence of computation in computer science. Flailing around with uncertainty now about what the word “computation” really means, **SamuelA** finally looks it up in Wikipedia, and [creates a new post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20697350&postcount=367) to crow “I was right! I was right!”. Now here’s the thing, folks, and pay close attention: the Wikipedia article – which even quotes Jerry Fodor on the subject – **says the exact opposite** of **SamuelA** ’s claims. I don’t know if he ever figured out that the sentences he cribbed out of Wikipedia **actually prove he was wrong** , but if he did, it was too late to delete the post! And now, folks, the grand finale. Challenged with the above evidence, our self-professed “expert” in **computer** science and brilliant “computer engineer” who warns lesser mortals not to challenge his indomitable intellect, claims he was [“fuzzy” on the meaning of “computation”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20699347&postcount=389) because it was all “from a CS course 10 years ago”! 😃 But the proper meaning of the term is so fundamental to computer science that no one of any competence could _ **not** _ know its formal meaning! And this was the whole basis of that whole multi-page discussion, going back to the first point I made at the beginning of this post. We’ve long known what an annoying obnoxious jerk this guy is, but this is clear proof of how ignorant he is, in case there was still any lingering doubt. BTW, he also doesn’t know what “neuroscience” and “cognitive science” mean, or if there’s even any difference. Not a blessed clue! But it’s all good, because know this: he is brilliant, and he once took a signals course! ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/436 "2018-01-03T20:55:31Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Reality says you are an idiot. > > Is that why you have Reality on ignore? Lots of people are doing that these days. The proper term is “Conservative”. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/437 "2018-01-03T21:00:07Z")
1 can refried black beans 1 pound hamburger 1 pound cheese of your choice Red Pepper and Taco Sauce, other stuff (onions, etc) Brown the hamburger, drain the liquid, add the refried beans. Stir as it warms to a smooth mixture. Then begin adding the cheese while the mix is hot, a little at a time while stirring it in. Add taco sauce, red pepper, or any other flavorings (onions, peppers, etc) you care for. Makes @ 3 pounds of dip. Mixed with corn chips and maybe sour cream, it even makes a decent meal that I’ve had on more than one occasion. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/438 "2018-01-03T21:03:57Z")
I feel your pain, but I’m not done enjoying the show. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/439 "2018-01-03T21:08:32Z")
Just a quick note – I mentioned the Wikipedia article on computation that **SamuelA** cribbed a couple of sentences out of, and which he didn’t understand because it actually contradicted his claims, but I forgot to link it – [it’s this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computation). I note that this pathetic fool now has half the board on ignore. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/440 "2018-01-03T21:09:36Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > 1 can refried black beans > 1 pound hamburger > 1 pound cheese of your choice > Red Pepper and Taco Sauce, other stuff (onions, etc) > > Brown the hamburger, drain the liquid, add the refried beans. Stir as it warms to a smooth mixture. Then begin adding the cheese while the mix is hot, a little at a time while stirring it in. Add taco sauce, red pepper, or any other flavorings (onions, peppers, etc) you care for. > > Makes @ 3 pounds of dip. Mixed with corn chips and maybe sour cream, it even makes a decent meal that I’ve had on more than one occasion. This would go great with a side of dry pasta. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420.md?page=23)