# Technology doesn't work that way - SamuelA's Pit Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 3, 2017, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420 "2017-12-03T00:52:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 62
**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1221 "2019-06-25T13:13:58Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > Am I the only one thinking he’s an incel? Nope. I’m still trying to wrap my head around what he _thinks_ ISIS/terrorists have to do with Google & MIT. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1222 "2019-06-25T13:55:39Z")
For a split second there I read “incel” as “imbecile”, which goes to show that our immediate first impressions of words tend to be appropriate to the context. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1223 "2019-06-25T14:19:16Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > Am I the only one thinking he’s an incel? [I was thinking this was more like it.](https://imgflip.com/i/349idd) ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1224 "2019-06-25T23:46:37Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > Am I the only one thinking he’s an incel? Well, he was certainly active in this [thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=858560). (That’s the [one](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21099603&postcount=265) where he claims that women didn’t like being slaves because it meant their offspring had less of a chance of survival, although most of his posts in that thread were just as creepy.) Dude’s disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1225 "2019-06-26T00:17:13Z")
\*\* > [@Guinastasia](#): > > Well, he was certainly active in this [thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=858560). (That’s the [one](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21099603&postcount=265) where he claims that women didn’t like being slaves because it meant their offspring had less of a chance of survival, although most of his posts in that thread were just as creepy.) > > Dude’s disgusting. He never ceases to amaze, even when I think I’ve seen it all. Aside from the creepiness, I note these priceless lines: “_Unfortunately I can’t give you a crash course in modern AI techniques in the space of this forum post …_” Well, of course not. Here’s the translation: “Time and space prevent me from giving you a comprehensive dissertation on modern AI techniques of which I have a full understanding in my capacity as Sammy, Boy Genius™, and this is unfortunately your loss and you’re going to have to continue to trudge through life without benefit of my exalted enlightenment.” “_A learning AI is just a description for a dataflow and some instructions that will cause the machine to pick the best action out of those it considered against some goal._” Sammy also has a comprehensive understanding of all aspects of machine learning. Notice the routine appearance of the word “just” here, which in common parlance is an expression of simplicity – which indeed everything is to Sammy’s giant throbbing brain – so the entire discipline of machine learning has been reduced by Sammy to a mere 26 words following “just”. That’s pretty much all there is to it: a description for a dataflow and some instructions. We do, however, have to keep in mind, as noted earlier, that “just” is also a unit of measure and implies the recruitment of 3.762 x 10[sup]9[/sup] self-replicating nanobots to support Sammy’s initiative, every single one of the intelligent nanobots just bursting with dataflows and some instructions, so you bet they’re learning like billy-o! ---
**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1226 "2019-06-26T02:52:08Z")
I noted today that he’s not logged on since yesterday, and his last post was in his thread. . . the “[Last Time Addendum](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21712388&postcount=1178)” post, which was a full twenty-five minutes after his ‘[Absolute final post. I really, _really_ mean it!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21712375&postcount=1173)’ I note, that a quick look indicates his last activity: Yesterday 12:47 AM (MDT). Why do I bring this up? Because I know he’s lurking and reviewing this thread. But we’ll know when he logs in to look and post. The longer he doesn’t log in, the better off we all are. > [@wolfpup](#): > > We do, however, have to keep in mind, as noted earlier, that “just” is also a unit of measure and implies the recruitment of **3.762 x 10[sup]9[/sup] self-replicating nanobots** to support Sammy’s initiative . . . Thank you for this citation. I am humbled! 😃 Sometimes it’s important to give the lay reader a definitive number to correlate to an abstract measurement. That’s just good ol’ science. Tripler . . . and that includes readers who get _laid_ too. ::rimshot:: ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1227 "2019-06-26T02:58:40Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > Am I the only one thinking he’s an incel? Does it still count if you bang hookers? Seems like it should, because otherwise the only true incels are broke-ass MFers. ---
**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1228 "2019-06-26T11:31:38Z")
That’s a good question. I would think the strict defininition of “incel” (from what I remember as “involuntary celibate”) would mean that if he _did_\* copulate/fornicate, then it was voluntary (although expensive), and he no longer qualifies to self-nominate. He would have voluntarily forked over that $500, so, he loses his claim to that status. If he didn’t actually find a hooker, then he’s a flat out liar, but at least he can claim “incel” as an occupation on his tax returns. \*Note: I want to cast aspersions on anything he says of his sexual “condition.” Come to think of it too, I have doubts about his military service. Something just doesn’t add up. . . Tripler Either way, whether he’s lying about being an incel, or lying about getting hookers . . . he’s a liar. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1229 "2019-06-26T12:06:12Z")
Wouldn’t that mean anyone who could possibly scrape up a few hundred bucks, even if once a year or whatever, cannot claim to be an incel if they are spending that money on something other than basic needs at the bottom of the Maslow pyramid? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1230 "2019-06-26T12:50:16Z")
Being an incel is not inextricably linked to actual sexual activity. There is a subgroup of incels who have girlfriends and engage in regular sexual activity. But not with “Stacys” or whatever they call them. They don’t think it ‘counts’ unless they are with supermodels or some other stupid shit. It’s not about the sex (well, not entirely anyway). It’s about the extreme inferiority complex they have, which causes them to sometimes act or speak out in bizarre and unhealthy ways. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1231 "2019-06-26T12:53:28Z")
> [@Tripler](#): > > That’s a good question. I would think the strict defininition of “incel” (from what I remember as “involuntary celibate”) would mean that if he _did_\* copulate/fornicate, then it was voluntary (although expensive), and he no longer qualifies to self-nominate. He would have voluntarily forked over that $500, so, he loses his claim to that status. > > If he didn’t actually find a hooker, then he’s a flat out liar, but at least he can claim “incel” as an occupation on his tax returns. > > \*Note: I want to cast aspersions on anything he says of his sexual “condition.” Come to think of it too, I have doubts about his military service. Something just doesn’t add up. . . > > Tripler > Either way, whether he’s lying about being an incel, or lying about getting hookers . . . he’s a liar. Exactly to my point below… > [@JohnT](#): > > [I was thinking this was more like it.](https://imgflip.com/i/349idd) ---
**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1232 "2019-06-26T13:24:26Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Exactly to my point below… You need a way to incorporate some minorities into that picture. 😃 Tripler He still hasn’t logged on–Hi **Sammy**!! ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1233 "2019-06-26T15:05:10Z")
> [@Tripler](#): > > He still hasn’t logged on–Hi **Sammy**!! Maybe he’s flounced, and in between banging whores is spending his time on LessWrong like he’s repeatedly promised to do since at least January of last year. I must say that announcing that everyone on this board is an idiot, including the moderators, is an unusual way to make oneself welcome, but that’s our Sammy! To wit: > [@SamuelA](#): > > … So, yes. Most humans are stupid, and this place apparently has a bunch of them. Which apparently includes the person that was appointed to run it. > > Anyways, I’ve said my piece, and I’ve proven my points. _Unless_ you, or anyone else, have a _substantive_ response citing specific posts, I’m done here. I’m going to go find a community with less idiots. I hear lesser wrong has revamped their site. > > _drops mike_ > > SamuelA Out. > [@SamuelA](#): > > No, I’m just not interesting in engaging with someone who isn’t intellectually honest or intelligent enough to be worth my time. Come post on LesserWrong if you want to engage with me. The moderation there is brutal, you wouldn’t even get out of the negatives. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1234 "2019-06-26T16:52:33Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Maybe he’s flounced, and in between banging whores is spending his time on LessWrong like he’s repeatedly promised to do since at least January of last year. I must say that announcing that everyone on this board is an idiot, including the moderators, is an unusual way to make oneself welcome, but that’s our Sammy! Fools be foolish. That’s our Sammy. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1235 "2019-06-26T23:51:24Z")
I think the whole sex with hookers braggadacio sounds phony, like a sort of incel Walter Mitty. Doesn’t it sound to you like he’s trying _way_ too hard? He’s already said he’s too unattractive to attract women–classic incel. I’m thinking young, bitter, racist, misogynist, physically unattractive, and works in a just-above-entry position in IT. In other words, incel. ---
**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1236 "2019-06-27T09:05:53Z")
I’ll make a wage: **SamuelA** ’s last activity was on 06-24-2019 12:47 AM (MDT). I’ll bet that he’ll avoid us, specifically this thread, and will return to the SDMB ten days from his last activity +/- 12 hours. I’m willing to wager a good cup of coffee from your local coffee house (that’s not a Starbucks) that he’ll pop into some other thread to offer “advice.” Tripler Any takers? ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1237 "2019-06-27T13:13:21Z")
No. Mostly because we don’t have coffee houses. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1238 "2019-06-27T13:15:50Z")
I have to wonder if the Super Genius is getting an HIV test, since the post with HIV rates in Kiev may have thrown him for a loop. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1239 "2019-06-27T13:18:52Z")
> [@Tripler](#): > > I’ll make a wage… Reassuring to hear - don’t want Dopers having a hard go of it.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2019, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1240 "2019-06-27T13:21:43Z")
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