# Technology doesn't work that way - SamuelA's Pit Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 3, 2017, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420 "2017-12-03T00:52:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 72
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2019, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1421 "2019-07-19T02:17:26Z")
> [@Tripler](#): > > [Proof](https://imgur.com/a/uL1irSy) of [Snack](https://imgur.com/a/6jQVQGN) [Life.](https://imgur.com/a/O2M2JDm) > > First Prize: Your choice of Cheetos, either _Crunchy_ or _Flamin’ Hot Lime_. > Second Prize: The other bag. > Third Prize: A hearty handshake and “Honorable Mention.” > > **JohnT** , you chose 7/29 before the suspension. You can change your date, since the suspension kind of limits you to after the 10th or 11th. What’s your guess? > > Tripler > This shit just got serious. I love the authenticating pics, especially the first one! 😃 My mom told me never to gamble, but I am soooooo tempted, since I’m feeling somewhat peckish right now and would love some Cheetos. I didn’t even know they made a “Flamin’ Hot” variety. And damn I wish I was rich. I think the banning of **SamuelA** deserves something really momentous, and I would offer [an accessory for the Cheetos](https://www.mercedes-benz.ca/en/vehicles/class/s-class/cabriolet) as the first prize. Imagine winning both our contests, luxuriating in one of those, with a bag of Flamin’ Hot Cheetos at your right-hand side, and knowing that **SamuelA** was banned from the SDMB, all on the same day! ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1422 "2019-07-28T14:58:23Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I find the lack of language regarding Starkiller Base to be… troubling. > > Regardless! I’ll join and put as my entry… **July 29th**. > > Yes, he will be suspended. But he’ll “just” create a sock which will be so obvious even _I_ will notice. > > July 29th. You read it here first. > [@Skywatcher](#): > > **SamuelB**? 😃 I don’t know. All I know, is that it’s sometime in TheFuture: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=879396](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=879396) ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1423 "2019-07-28T15:36:40Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > And damn I wish I was rich. I think the banning of **SamuelA** deserves something really momentous, and I would offer [an accessory for the Cheetos](https://www.mercedes-benz.ca/en/vehicles/class/s-class/cabriolet) as the first prize. Imagine winning both our contests, luxuriating in one of those, with a bag of Flamin’ Hot Cheetos at your right-hand side, and knowing that **SamuelA** was banned from the SDMB, all on the same day! Wow! That’s (almost) very generous of you. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1424 "2019-07-28T16:35:58Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I don’t know. All I know, is that it’s sometime in TheFuture: > > [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=879396](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=879396) Nah, I think that’s someone in the UK with a history of complaining about being a virgin. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1425 "2019-07-30T00:37:42Z")
Helmut Doork was banned today. If he was SamA’s sock, I’m goung to demand my cheetos. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1426 "2019-07-30T00:50:53Z")
SamuelA is still showing suspended. Looks like you’ll have to ask a mod directly to find out. ---
**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1427 "2019-08-09T17:18:00Z")
Alright folks, just one more day for the _Great **SamuelA** Cheeto Banning Challenge 2019!_ This is the last call for dates that already haven’t been chosen yet. Since I’m posting on a cellphone, and I’m on travel for work (not able to respond), you’ll have to scroll up thread for the contest rules and regulations, as well as the already-chosen dates. Last call (last post) that will be honored must be time stamped by 2359 this evening, Chicago time, to give the hamsters time to rack and stack the selections before the suspension lifting. Also, I wanted to bump this thread due to the new one that was opened by **Jasmine**. There’s so much entertaining “duh” from **SamuelA** , we thought it best to locate all his racism and “science” here lest his stupidity go _too viral_ on an otherwise perfectly-normal conversation message board. Tripler There’s still time to cast your votes!! Winner gets a bag of Cheetos!! ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1428 "2019-08-09T22:54:16Z")
It’s that time already? The days have flown by. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1429 "2019-08-09T23:05:09Z")
Awright, I’m in. The board’s PTB seem to allow trolls fathoms of manila with which to tie their nooses, so I’m going with September 4th. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1430 "2019-08-09T23:26:38Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > … fathoms of manila with which to tie their nooses… I like this expression. ---
**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1431 "2019-08-10T19:16:10Z")
I notice he’s still currently suspended, by his last activity was yesterday around 3:46PM Mountain Time. I guess the li’l guy tried to login with something to say… Tripler **SunnyDaze** I have you down for the 11th now. **SMV** , got ya for 9/4. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1432 "2019-08-10T21:05:30Z")
Did anyone take 9/22 yet? I got a good feeling about that date. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1433 "2019-08-10T21:50:40Z")
> [@Tripler](#): > > I notice he’s still currently suspended, by his last activity was yesterday around 3:46PM Mountain Time. I guess the li’l guy tried to login with something to say… > > Tripler > **SunnyDaze** I have you down for the 11th now. **SMV** , got ya for 9/4. Well, he could’ve logged in to send a message to TPTB. ---
**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1434 "2019-08-10T22:20:44Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Did anyone take 9/22 yet? I got a good feeling about that date. Since the suspension thing looks like it’ll be lifted tomorrow, I’ll honor this, unless there’s any of the other players against it. Here’s the list with **Atamasama** : **SunnyDaze** (8/10 or 11 dependent on privilege restoration); **Oredigger77** (8/13); **Guest Starring: Id!** (8/14); **Tripler** (8/18); **JohnT** (8/21); **TroutMan** (8/30); **SlowMovingVehicle** (9/4); **Atamasama** (9/22). > [@Monty](#): > > Well, he could’ve logged in to send a message to TPTB. Oh, I was under the impression you couldn’t do jack squat when you were suspended. Tripler In Soviet Russia, Jack Squat does _ **you!** _ ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1435 "2019-08-10T22:21:47Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Well, he could’ve logged in to send a message to TPTB. Except if you’re suspended, you still can’t send PMs. He would see a message saying something like “Your account is currently suspended. The date your suspension will be lifted is 10 August, 2019.” He could have just logged in to see if he was unsuspended yet. Edit - By the way, his suspension is now over. His status currently is listed as “Guest”. ---
**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1436 "2019-08-10T22:32:51Z")
> [@Tripler](#): > > Whoa. . . suspended? This in no way at all affects the contest of “When Will **SamuelA** Be Banned?” All you have to do is post a prediction. To open the playing field, I’m modifying my guess to **August 18th**. **To enter:** all you have to do is predict the date this troll will be permanently banned. **The prize:** _a bag of Cheetos_! > > Well, a few folks have asked me for the rules to the contest. After running it through the TripCo® Legal Department, we’ve established the legalese. I promise this is far less dumber, but far more entertaining than reading one of his posts . . . > > ## ::ahem:: > > [sub] > The contest you are entering involves wagering a date (or dates) of the Straight Dope Message Board (SDMB) ™ banning the user account of one, **SamuelA** , with the prize being awarded of one 8 ounce bag of Cheetos (any flavor or variety). Prize will be awarded by the announcement of the user account banning by the date/time of the post announcing that banning. The contest host, **Tripler** is in no way connected with the moderation of the SDMB™, and is a participant in the contest. > > **Contest Eligibility** > This contest is open to legal residents of the Planet Earth, not including **SamuelA** , who are at least seven (7) years of age at the time of entry. No purchase is necessary to enter. Making a purchase will not increase your chances of winning. This contest is void above the Kármán Line, between the space of **SamuelA** ’s ears, and where prohibited by law. Hands-free operation (i.e. no mobile telephone use during operation) of vehicles and heavy equipment is required because safety is paramount. Employees, officers, and moderators of the SDMB, their respective partners, agencies, related companies, and agents, as well as the immediate family (defined as parents, spouse, children, siblings, and grandparents), and same household members of such employee, officer, and director, are not eligible to enter. It’s kinda “iffy” if applicable federal state, Tribal, and local laws and regulations apply. In other words, 'Do not pass “Go,” and do not collect $200;" have a Cheeto. > > **Contest Entry** > This specific contest entry requirements involve only posting a guess as to when **SamuelA** will be banned. All entries must be made in conformance with the relevant contest’s requirements. One entry per Doper, but it’s on a first-come, first-served basis. You can change your date entry at any time, so long as it’s open. Non-conforming entries will be rejected and ineligible for contest prizes. Any entrant using fraudulent means to participate and/or win the contest will be disqualified. Buckle up, because it’s the law. Any attempt by an entrant to undermine the legitimate operation of the context may be a violation of criminal and civil laws, and this includes you, **SamuelA**. **Tripler** reserves the right, in his sole discretion, to cancel, modify, terminate, or suspend a particular flavor of Cheetos for any reason and without prior notice. In such case, **Tripler** may, as appropriate under the circumstances, select a contest winner via reasonable means consistent with the specific contest. Why? Because of course he fucking can. > > **Winner Selection and Notification** > The odds of winning are pretty fuckin’ good. The winning entry or entries for a contest will be selected in compliance with the terms of the specific contest. **Tripler** will contact contest winners by posting in the thread to confirm a winning entry. > > The potential contest winner will forfeit the prize if he/she (1) does not respond to the initial notification email or return any required information within a 30 business days, (2) cannot be contacted through the SDMB, (3) rejects the prize or the prize is returned as undeliverable, (4) is a sock of **SamuelA**'cause Lord know’s he’s probably got one, (5) claims that those members of _LesserWrong_ “might actually be on to something. . .”, or (6) is disqualified for any reason. In the event of prize forfeiture, an alternate winner will be selected. > > Winners are solely responsible for all intergalactic, federal, Tribal, state, Provincial and local taxes and all unspecified expenses or fees associated with prize acceptance, receipt, and use. Winners are solely responsible for providing their own napkins during consumption of the Prize. Prizes could be substituted or transferred by any contest winner for any convincing reason, and a winner may receive cash redemption equal to the value of the prize in lieu of the prize. **Tripler** reserves the right to substitute alternate prizes of equal or comparable value, but probably won’t because hey, how cool would it be to have a box with a bag of Cheetos arrive on your doorstep? Prizes are offered “as is” with no written, express, or implied warranty, including but not limited to, quality, condition, merchantability, or fitness for a particular purpose. **Tripler** is not responsible for replacing prizes as a result of damage prior to, during, or after shipping or events beyond his control, including Acts of God, Acts of Dog, rebellion, insurrection, faulty engineering design or contractor workmanship on both Death Stars, or Acts of God’s Dog. Winners must look to the manufacturer or service provider for any potential warranties or guarantees. Your mileage may vary, and remember, only you can prevent Forest Fires. > > **Release** > By entering a contest and, if applicable, receipt of any prize, each entrant and, as applicable, winner agrees to release and hold harmless **Tripler** , the SDMB and its officers, directors, employees, and agents from and against any claim or cause of action arising out of participation in a contest or any contest-related activity, or from the receipt or use or misuse of any prize, including claims or causes of action related to alleged damage to an entrant’s computer or electronic systems from downloading or using any material from the SDMB website, regardless of whether the material is connected to the SDMB website by a hyperlink text. This paragraph shouldn’t need to be here, because we’re not going that fucking deep into details, but hey, the TripCo © Legal Department recommended it. And if your that goddamned fragile of an ego to raise a claim for losing this contest, then **SamuelA** , you shouldn’t haven’t participated in the first place. > > **Disputes, Choice of Law, and Venue** > Except where prohibited by law, entrants agree: (1) any and all disputes, claims, and causes of action arising out of or connected with a contest or any prize awarded shall be resolved individually, without resort to any form of class action, via mutual combat with picked herrings as refereed exclusively by SDMB moderators (2) any and all claims, judgments, and awards shall be limited to actual out-of-pocket costs incurred, but in no event will attorneys’ fees be awarded; if you need a lawyer for some motherfuckin’ Cheetos, you’re doing it wrong; (3) no punitive, incidental, special, consequential, or other damages, including without limitation lost profits, may be awarded (collectively, “Special Damages”); and (4) entrants hereby waive all rights to claim Special Damages and all rights to have such damages multiplied, increased, derived, integrated, or otherwise fast Fourier transformed. Snacky law governs this contests and all aspects related thereto, including the construction, validity, interpretation, and enforceability of these Official Rules. By entering a contest, entrants agree to submit to the personal and exclusive jurisdiction of the Courts of Public Opinion, Esteem, and Ridicule, located in the Electronic Ether of the Internet. > > **Use of Collected Data** > **Tripler** might—just _might_–collect personal data about entrants for purposes of administering prizes, if you’re really hard pressed for a bag ‘o’ Cheetos. By entering into this contest, entrants agree that **Tripler** will PM you for a mailing address should you win. **Tripler** does not, and will not, disclose entrants’ personal information to non-affiliated third-parties. Besides, the party will be at your place with your fresh, new bag of Cheetos. > > ## **Miscellanea** If you’ve read this far, this sounds pretty awesome, but pretty boring. This contest is in absolutely no way sponsored by the SDMB™, its agents, moderators, Ed Zotti, or anyone else. It’s just for fun, so don’t get yer knickers in a twist. Just enjoy a Goddamned Cheeto. [/sub] > > **Oredigger77** , did you have a specific date in mind? > > Tripler > Keepin’ it leeeeegal, yo. Tripler, I have to say that I greatly enjoyed this outpouring of creativity. I think the pictures of the Cheetos you posted are awesome, and I wish everyone luck in trying to get me banned. I will comment that it occurred to me that an “own goal” is possible: hypothetically, if a poster were to accumulate a sufficient number of warnings for making SamuelA insult posts outside of the pit, they could then be suspended or banned. If this were to occur, shouldn’t those Cheetos be mine? I am also amused by the close timing of the estimates: the mods haven’t banned me for 2 years, and all I have to do is not post anything remotely offensive and I never will be banned. Nevertheless, I wish everyone the best. Also, **wolfpup** , take a chill pill. We live in a world where millions of people believe in homeopathy and other complete bullshit. So even if I try to see things from your perspective: the world has a million pompous, arrogant know-it-alls. What’s one more? ---
**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1437 "2019-08-10T22:40:06Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Thanks for getting those links. I don’t think they quite cross the line into giving instructions on how to break the law. “Fly to Kiev, there’s a brothel there, somewhere,” is a bit too abstract to really serve as blueprint for anyone looking to do crimes, much the same way that an earlier poster joking about “visiting your dispensary” to find weed isn’t being moderated. Hey, since I couldn’t speak in my defense. The rules of this board state violations of **U.S. Law**. It is not against U.S. law, apparently, to see foreign prostitutes over the age of 18, nor is it a violation, apparently, if they are 16 or older if you aren’t paying them. So it would \*appear \*that a step by step guide starting from how to get a cab from the airport as to how to find hookers in Ukraine would be allowed by the \*stated \*board rules. ---
**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1438 "2019-08-10T23:08:48Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > Tripler, I have to say that I greatly enjoyed this outpouring of creativity. It wasn’t nearly as creative as your demonstrated grasp of science or geopolitical social issues. > [@SamuelA](#): > > I think the pictures of the Cheetos you posted are awesome, and I wish everyone luck in trying to get me banned. _We_ won’t be getting you banned. You’ll do that of your own volition. > [@SamuelA](#): > > I will comment that it occurred to me that an “own goal” is possible: hypothetically, if a poster were to accumulate a sufficient number of warnings for making SamuelA insult posts outside of the pit, they could then be suspended or banned. If this were to occur, shouldn’t those Cheetos be mine? _Lots_ of things occur to you–and you are full of hypotheticals. To answer your question: **no**. Tripler Alright everyone. . . the game is afoot! ---
**Author:** ![SamuelA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@SamuelA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SamuelA)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1439 "2019-08-10T23:26:18Z")
> [@Tripler](#): > > _We_ won’t be getting you banned. You’ll do that of your own volition. > > Tripler > Alright everyone. . . the game is afoot! Ahem, I see some edge cases. What happens if the expiration date on the cheetos hits and I still un-banned? That’s either 1 year or 3 months, I see conflicting sources on this. Perhaps you could post a photograph of the best by code. I, for one, wouldn’t want to be competing for expired chips. What if I stop posting for a month or more? Does this count as a self-ban? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420/1440 "2019-08-11T00:08:55Z")
> [@Tripler](#): > > Alright everyone. . . the game is afoot! That’s a couple of feet too low-- the game is anass. But he is off to a good start: > [@Misogyny and Moderation, again](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/misogyny-and-moderation-again/838462/53): > > Many men see women as having inherent value over some random stranger on the street because of their mating potential, as indicated by various secondary sexual characteristics. Were nate to attempt to seek a relationship with one of these women, he might act charming and want to know her as a person, but he wouldn’t be bothering if she didn’t have clear mate value, as indicated by various characteristics. > > So what is the part that offends you, specifically? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420.md?page=71) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/technology-doesnt-work-that-way-samuelas-pit-thread/803420.md?page=73)